iPhone 11 Lineup Tipped to Have Familiar Rollout: September 13 Pre-Orders, September 20 Launch

[PickUrPoison]

how is XS better than X in almost every way for average consumer? The only difference you might actually notice is better photos. Rest is pretty much the same. There is no way average user will notice the difference in the A chip speed. I would even argue that not even prosumer will notice any difference.
Camera is the only noticeable difference and even that is quite minimal.

The XS offers quite a few upgrades over the X, with no increase in price: 4GB RAM (increased from 3GB), better camera with a new sensor, new image signal processor, various improved picture and video modes, better display, improved sound, IP68 water resistance (vs. IP67), dual SIM capability, faster FaceID, faster wireless charging, up to 15% faster CPU, up to 50% faster GPU and the machine learning neural engine co-processor goes from 2-core/600 billion operations per second to an amazing 8-core/5 trillion ops/sec—over 7x faster.

Also: stronger glass, better battery life, stereo video recording via four microphones, more frequency bands, including T-Mobile's 600 MHz LTE Band 71, and a faster “gigabit class” cellular radio. (In tests on US cellular carriers, the average download speeds more than doubled and upload speeds increased by 50%.)

Some will upgrade just for the gold color lol, and a $200 upgrade to 512GB is now available as well, for those who need half a terabyte of storage on their phone. For those who miss the Plus size, for only an extra $100(!) they can get the XS Max.

Like I said, the XS is better than the X in almost every way. It’s hard to find an aspect left untouched. This is what Apple does—they iterate.

But that doesn’t mean their first cut must be avoided. Whether you look at the original iPod, iPhone, iPad, Watch, HomePod—really, you can go back as far as you want: Apple I, Macintosh, LaserWriter—all of these products, though expensive, were “worth it”, and gave early adopters little reason for buyer’s remorse.

Of course later generations will be better, but Apple waited until they had a “better than good enough” product to release. Sure, they’ve had their misfires, but when they re-invent a category, they usually nail it right out of the gate—and it only gets better from there.

This is just infuriating to the Apple-hate crowd for some reason (not directed at you, Freida), but oh well. I for one am most looking forward to their take on VR and transportation (most likely, as a service). Can’t wait for Tim Apple’s pipeline of amazing products and services to produce it’s next game-changing home run.

 

[volcomvenom]

The iPhone 11 XR replacement is going to start at over $1200 USD? You really believe that? What exactly are you people smoking?
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If there are any headphone jacks left to be found on an Android phone in the next few years. They’re disappearing at a rapid clip in the flagship phones.
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Sure, why would they take it away after finally putting it in the iPhone 8/8 Plus and X generation. It’s a feature users wanted for years and now they have it. Apple isn’t going to shoot themselves in the foot over that.

I have such poor speculation skills, thank you! good point.

 

[Rugbydman]

What actually is expected next year?
Keep reading big things next year?

 

[EugW]

iPhone 11 possible leaked specs. Mostly overdue spec bump, removal of 3D Touch and addition of Pencil support.

https://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_11_...l_their_specs_seemingly_leaked-news-38965.php

I am skeptical of this so-called leak, but I’ll play along:

You didn’t mention the best parts... those being 6 GB RAM and 128 GB base storage for the OLED models. I’m probably not buying an iPhone this year since I want 5G, but 6 GB / 128 GB is exactly what I’m looking for in a new 2019 iPad Pro.

The other big deals are the much larger batteries and the inclusion of the 18 Watt charger.

 

[damphoose]

These phones are going to be a bust. I guess maybe they can depend on the masses you don't read rumor sites and don't know about the vastly improved phones coming in 2020.

I guess I’m not reading enough rumor sites. What is know about the the 2020 phones that makes them “vastly improved”. I’d really like to know since I’m probably skipping this one too,

 

[EugW]

I guess I’m not reading enough rumor sites. What is know about the the 2020 phones that makes them “vastly improved”. I’d really like to know since I’m probably skipping this one too,

120 Hz ProMotion display and 5G cellular.

 

[flexiboy1912]

As someone with an XS Max I just don't see the need/reason to upgrade. Maybe next year..

Totally agree. The price is a killer now. £1,500 just to get same similar spec with awful camera bump and no usb C

 

[PickUrPoison]

Totally agree. The price is a killer now. £1,500 just to get same similar spec with awful camera bump and no usb C

Yikes, not sure where you’re buying your iPhones but you might want to consider shopping at the Apple store instead. XS Max is only £915, which is only £11 higher than our price of $1,099 here in the States.

Of course you’ll have to pay your VAT, just as most of us here have to pay our state sales tax. Hard to get around taxes though... oh well.

 

[PickUrPoison]

As someone with an XS Max I just don't see the need/reason to upgrade. Maybe next year..

Or maybe 2023! I’m about to start my fifth year with a 6s and I don’t see the need/reason to upgrade either.

I used to upgrade every two years: 4s, 5s, 6s... but this phone still seems as fast as the day I got it. Might even keep it until 2021 if it gets iOS 14 next year.

 

[PickUrPoison]

iPhone 11 possible leaked specs. Mostly overdue spec bump, removal of 3D Touch and addition of Pencil support.

https://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_11_...l_their_specs_seemingly_leaked-news-38965.php

Old rumor. Not so sure about those battery capacities, or Apple Pencil support but we’ll find out soon.

 

[Twixi]

I’m still using a perfectly good launch day iPhone X. It will take a lot to get me to upgrade.

Same here, i love the x, its fast, reliable and outstanding, i dont think theres anything that can make me upgrade this year or the next year, If the x last till 2021 i Will keep it

 

[GalileoSeven]

I don't think the BIG unknown is the new 2019 iPhones.

Its what will Apple offer wrt its older iPhones.

I believe the 1st-Gen XR, XS, & XS Max will ALL be discontinued on Sept 10th.

The XR for obvious reasons; just like the X, Apple didn't put enough DRAM into it for App Devs to do much with it !

I suspect the 7 & 7+ will be dropped.

Ideally, Apple would have learned from their mistakes, & would offer an 8s & 8s+ next month, each with an A13, & each with an additional GB of DRAM.

As many of you know, but NOT ALL, iOS consumes more & more of the Available DRAM with each major update ... it now easily consumes 1/3 more than it used to just a few years ago ... since Apps get to use ONLY what's left over, the situation is now Dire for High-Perf apps in the iOS ecosystem.

DRAM is by-far the most-important factor that is UNDER the Radar of most, but should NOT be !

The Pixel 4 will be a MAJOR wake-up call to Apple's Upper Mgmt, none of which have any hands-out Software Development experience ! ... that goes for Apple's Board as well !!

It is the very definition of the blind leading the blind !

You're kidding right??

 

[tigress666]

The wait to replace my janky 6 is still way too long!

 

[chucker23n1]

The Pixel 4 will be a MAJOR wake-up call to Apple's Upper Mgmt, none of which have any hands-out Software Development experience ! ... that goes for Apple's Board as well !!

And by 2011, Windows Mobile will obliterate the iPhone.

 

[bwsteg]

See I’m the opposite, it doesn’t take me much at all lol. (I think) I’ve had every model since the 3GS. But this is getting increasingly difficult to justify. The 11 is looking to be entirely too close to not only the XS but also the X for me to consider upgrading this year, and the one “major” rumoured feature is the biggest eye sore in iPhone history.

Almost feel as though it may be worth scrapping the S models for the sake of a yearly release, and just put everything into a new model every two years. These incremental updates are getting smaller and smaller.

Yet you kids will still miss school, watch the apple event, preorder at midnight, and complain. It’s a cycle.

 

[AppleAlexander]

Apple yesterday invited the media to a special event on Tuesday, September 10 at the Steve Jobs Theater, where it is widely expected to unveil three new iPhones alongside an Apple Watch refresh and other announcements.

A tipster who claims to work at a major carrier has since provided MacRumors with internal communication that suggests the rumored iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro models will be available to pre-order Friday, September 13 ahead of deliveries to customers and in-store availability starting Friday, September 20.

MacRumors has received similar tips echoing these dates in recent weeks, so there is a good chance they are accurate.

iPhone pre-orders have begun two to three days after Apple's event for years now, followed by availability a week later, so these dates are hardly a surprise but good to know nevertheless. Unlike the iPhone X in November 2017 and the iPhone XR in October 2018, however, all three 2019 iPhones are expected to launch simultaneously.

The tipster requested anonymity and asked us not to share the screenshots of the internal communication.

Article Link: iPhone 11 Lineup Tipped to Have Familiar Rollout: September 13 Pre-Orders, September 20 Launch

[doublepost=1567271119][/doublepost]I think this will be another 7 year, pretty boring

 

[bn-7bc]

Waiting for the next big iPhone change.

So that will probably be next year for you I guess, considering 5G an all , or am i wrong?

 

[Alessiot]

I realize 5G is coming next year. But that's not something I'm going to demand so early in its life cycle. I never download anything over LTE now. I'm always connected to wifi. I have a XS Max but I think I'm dropping back down to the 11 Pro 5.8 model, hopefully in green. I think I prefer the smaller size. And for whatever reason, my Max has been the buggiest iPhone I've ever had. I've dealt with freezing and on numerous occasions, the screen goes blank and the phone shuts off. I hope the 11 Pro will act better.

im with you on that going back to the 5.8 the xs max is cool and all but just a little too big especially with a case. becomes very annoying in pockets and at the gym

 

[hagjohn]

I wish they would take one year and mainly work on power efficiency, instead of power.

1) Make the processor (and other components) more efficient, not more powerful.
2) Invest in battery tech. Find ways to improve the way electricity is saved and spent in batteries. Better cell tech, quicker charging, etc.
3) Make iOS more efficient.

 

[Love Divine]

The XS offers quite a few upgrades over the X, with no increase in price: 4GB RAM (increased from 3GB), better camera with a new sensor, new image signal processor, various improved picture and video modes, better display, improved sound, IP68 water resistance (vs. IP67), dual SIM capability, faster FaceID, faster wireless charging, up to 15% faster CPU, up to 50% faster GPU and the machine learning neural engine co-processor goes from 2-core/600 billion operations per second to an amazing 8-core/5 trillion ops/sec—over 7x faster.

Also: stronger glass, better battery life, stereo video recording via four microphones, more frequency bands, including T-Mobile's 600 MHz LTE Band 71, and a faster “gigabit class” cellular radio. (In tests on US cellular carriers, the average download speeds more than doubled and upload speeds increased by 50%.)

Some will upgrade just for the gold color lol, and a $200 upgrade to 512GB is now available as well, for those who need half a terabyte of storage on their phone. For those who miss the Plus size, for only an extra $100(!) they can get the XS Max.

Like I said, the XS is better than the X in almost every way. It’s hard to find an aspect left untouched. This is what Apple does—they iterate.

But that doesn’t mean their first cut must be avoided. Whether you look at the original iPod, iPhone, iPad, Watch, HomePod—really, you can go back as far as you want: Apple I, Macintosh, LaserWriter—all of these products, though expensive, were “worth it”, and gave early adopters little reason for buyer’s remorse.

Of course later generations will be better, but Apple waited until they had a “better than good enough” product to release. Sure, they’ve had their misfires, but when they re-invent a category, they usually nail it right out of the gate—and it only gets better from there.

This is just infuriating to the Apple-hate crowd for some reason (not directed at you, Freida), but oh well. I for one am most looking forward to their take on VR and transportation (most likely, as a service). Can’t wait for Tim Apple’s pipeline of amazing products and services to produce it’s next game-changing home run.

I for one have noticed/actually use the following:

1) XS has the new Max size
2) Dual Sim
3) 4 GB of RAM (way, way fewer reloads)
4) Gold color lol
5) Faster FaceID
6) Absolutely better cameras

It definitely is a noticeable upgrade, esp if you go from X to XS Max.

I also generally agree w/ the "wait for 2020" sentiment. USB-C, 5G, possibly smaller notch or somewhat of a redesign trump what we've heard so far about the 11

 

[Hazmat401]

I’m still using a perfectly good launch day iPhone X. It will take a lot to get me to upgrade.

I feel the same about my XS max which was just replaced by AppleCare early this week... regardless I’m rocking for another 1.5 years

 

[JuicelessMango]

IMO it's not meant to get XS or XS Max users to upgrade.
It's meant to get users of the 6S or 7 to upgrade...

If they didn't find the XS or XS Max compelling enough to upgrade, the 11 with minor improvements probably won't be compelling enough for them either.

 

[chucker23n1]

If they didn't find the XS or XS Max compelling enough to upgrade, the 11 with minor improvements probably won't be compelling enough for them either.

At some point, your phone flat-out stops being good enough. Someone who’s on a 6S or 7 will probably not have great battery life at this point. They can replace it, but it’s starting to become a band-aid. And the more iPhone revisions they skip, the more compelling an upgrade it is.

 

[ghanwani]

At some point, your phone flat-out stops being good enough. Someone who’s on a 6S or 7 will probably not have great battery life at this point. They can replace it, but it’s starting to become a band-aid. And the more iPhone revisions they skip, the more compelling an upgrade it is.

But they don’t have to upgrade to the latest. They might choose to upgrade to an 8 because of size.

 

[meru890]

Too bad I have to upgrade since I'm still using an iPhone 7 and battery is dying / charing doesn't work properly anymore. Unbelievable that the new ones won't have USB-C, why wait?