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Now anyone who actually opened a live chat with Apple, or a carrier, or any rep can go show them this lol.

And say!

You LIED TO ME! Why?!!! Ahhhhhhhhhh
 
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This tired argument? Apple supports old devices for 5 years back right now, period.

Do you see anyone complaining iOS13 is a laggy mess on older much lower RAM devices? The 5 years OS updates will far outlast the average upgrade cycle of the user (if just under 3 years is a true number).
2 GB devices are lagging now, although they're still OK.

This is why I would be disappointed to see only 2 GB in the 2019 iPad 10.2".
 
2 GB devices are lagging now, although they're still OK.

This is why I would be disappointed to see only 2 GB in the 2019 iPad 10.2".

The iPad 7th gen will be a massive let down with only 2gb ram. The A10 Fusion is still excellent too

I’ll buy one with 3GB though!
 
Yes, for longevity. What's enough to make it smooth today may not be enough in a few years. However, I think 4 GB would be fine for a few years... for an iPhone that is... and some people don't keep their phones that long anyway.
Fair enough, I can understand that, it just seems like all the people I’ve heard complain about 4GB so far are just the ones who say things along the lines of “Apple is being cheap” or “the Samsung Whatever has more RAM” etc. without any mention of long term usability of the phone. I guess time will tell how limiting, if at all, 4GB will be for the next year.
 
Apple is giving people the battery they've been dying for!
At the cost of extremely heavy and thick devices... I would have preferred a more elegant, light device than those ugly bricks. And anyhow, despite that battery, you'll still have to charge it every night!
 
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Fair enough, I can understand that, it just seems like all the people I’ve heard complain about 4GB so far are just the ones who say things along the lines of “Apple is being cheap” or “the Samsung Whatever has more RAM” etc. without any mention of long term usability of the phone. I guess time will tell how limiting, if at all, 4GB will be for the next year.
For the next year, I'm sure 4 GB will be fine.

It's just that if the iPhone 12 in 2020 is still 4 GB, and you keep your iPhone 3 years, it will be 4 GB until 2023 (which is four years from now).

But I think Apple may just do that, because they do have a habit of being somewhat stingy with RAM.
 
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Nice to see battery capacity catching up with <$100 budget phones but DRAM is a third of the way there for competing flagships.
It's interesting how much RAM is needed on some of the devices to make them work.
 
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Me prior to the keynote:
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Me now:
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False, Apple does NOT make a 4 GB iPhone !

2^32 = 4,294,967,296 = ~4.3 GB !

From the early Geekbench 4 reports, ALL members of the iPhone 11 family "appear" to be in the 3.7-3.8 GB range !

That ALSO means the NON-Pro iPhone 11 has the single most-important enhancement to the 2019 iPhone family ! ... i.e., an Extra GB of DRAM relative to the XR.

The runner-ups (which BTW, NONE of the Apple-oriented OR tech websites mentioned at ALL today):

The 100% Focus Pixels in the upgraded Back Wide-Angle image sensor !

The (sophisticated) Clock Gating in the A13 !
 
At the cost of extremely heavy and thick devices... I would have preferred a more elegant, light device than those ugly bricks. And anyhow, despite that battery, you'll still have to charge it every night!
There's always someone complaining. You can't please everyone. Sorry but this is getting really boring. If the iPhone's too thin why isn't the battery lasting longer? If it's 0.2 or 0.3 mm thicker, why is it thicker? But hey I have a slightly bigger battery by about 25% compared to the last year's model. If you are not happy don't buy it but unless battery technology doesn't improve drastically this is the compromise that manufactures will have to make so accept it or don't buy any smartphone at all.
 
False, Apple does NOT make a 4 GB iPhone !

2^32 = 4,294,967,296 = ~4.3 GB !

From the early Geekbench 4 reports, ALL members of the iPhone 11 family "appear" to be in the 3.7-3.8 GB range !

That ALSO means the NON-Pro iPhone 11 has the single most-important enhancement to the 2019 iPhone family ! ... i.e., an Extra GB of DRAM relative to the XR.

The runner-ups (which BTW, NONE of the Apple-oriented OR tech websites mentioned at ALL today):

The 100% Focus Pixels in the upgraded Back Wide-Angle image sensor !

The (sophisticated) Clock Gating in the A13 !
You always have the weirdest posts. :p

Anyhow, 2^32 = 4 GB, or 4.3 GiB.

The Geekbench memory amounts are as follows:
3844 MB: iPhone 11
3759 MB: iPhone 11 Pro
3740 MB: iPhone 11 Pro Max

I wonder if the difference can be attributed to the video memory allocation.
 
You always have the weirdest posts. :p

Anyhow, 2^32 = 4 GB, or 4.3 GiB.

The Geekbench memory amounts are as follows:
3844 MB: iPhone 11
3759 MB: iPhone 11 Pro
3740 MB: iPhone 11 Pro Max

I wonder if the difference can be attributed to the video memory allocation.
That might be the case, video memory allocation.
 
And only people here care.

Even a 1GB iPhone 6 is still very usable.

Many people here are too caught up on stats. If it works with 2GB, I don’t care. Simply few of any real world scenarios call for more.

Samsung needs more for whatever reason. 12GB certainly doesn’t do anything material for every day tasks.
 
Upgrade cycles are becoming longer because of high prices. The specs are and new technology has improved a lot ober the last few years back, but customers tend to take for granted as an obvious thing to happen in the tech world.
If the prices were in the range of iPhone 6-7 days once the new technology matures then more customers would be willing to upgrade yearly or every two years instead of 33 months.

Because upgrade cycles are becoming longer, consumers are not replacing phones every couple years. The current stat is 33 months.
 
And only people here care.

Even a 1GB iPhone 6 is still very usable.

Many people here are too caught up on stats. If it works with 2GB, I don’t care. Simply few of any real world scenarios call for more.

Samsung needs more for whatever reason. 12GB certainly doesn’t do anything material for every day tasks.
I agree with you and I will never understand why people fret over the amount of RAM iPhones have. After all it's not a workstation or a MacBook Pro where you do heavy video editing.
 
Seems iPhone 11 pro is more efficient than iPhone 11 Pro max. Max model needs 25% larger battery to last 1-2 hour longer than the smaller model.
 
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A 1 GB iPhone 6 is very irritating to use full-time.

If you had said 2 GB iPhone 6s, I might have agreed with you, but you didn't.
After 5 years I think most people will buy an iPhone XR, 8 or iPhone 11. Personally I will definitely change my iPhone the moment it stops receiving the next iOS version mostly because there's always an app that requires the last version of iOS + I don't want to take any chances with bugs and security breaches.
 
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4GB of ram is fine IMO.

I have never had any multitasking issues on my X with 3GB

6s with 2GB is fine as well.
 
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Not really happy with 4GB of RAM for the pro models much

Not that I’m complaining memory management wise but I’d thought using all 3 cameras at once would require more than just 4GB of RAM.

First time the RAM Amount is the same amongst new iPhones at once since the 6S/6S Plus

Give me a bigger battery over more ram for iPhones all day, every day. Something we'd actually notice and benefit from performance wise...
 
False, Apple does NOT make a 4 GB iPhone !

2^32 = 4,294,967,296 = ~4.3 GB !

From the early Geekbench 4 reports, ALL members of the iPhone 11 family "appear" to be in the 3.7-3.8 GB range !

That ALSO means the NON-Pro iPhone 11 has the single most-important enhancement to the 2019 iPhone family ! ... i.e., an Extra GB of DRAM relative to the XR.

The runner-ups (which BTW, NONE of the Apple-oriented OR tech websites mentioned at ALL today):

The 100% Focus Pixels in the upgraded Back Wide-Angle image sensor !

The (sophisticated) Clock Gating in the A13 !
Please, do us a favour. Try not post another thread regarding this. Thanks. :):apple:
 
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