A little bit blunt but correct.
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My 6 gb Samsung reload much more than my 4 gb iPhone XS.
Reloads have nothing to do with ram amount in a mobile phone.
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Reloads have nothing to do with ram amount in a mobile phone.
2GB is not laggy at all. For those who say 2GB lags have not nor do not use an iPhone 8 with just 2GB of RAM. It does not lag, and should be fine for another 2 years thanks to a processor that has plenty of headroom. The iPhone 6s are beginning to lag, but they’re also 4 years old with processors WAY behind the A11. Ant iPhone with 3GB and an A11 and above should be plenty snappy until at least another 2-3 years.
I don’t understand the obsession with RAM on iPhone. Does an iPad Pro with 4GB of RAM have problems running 2 and 3 apps at once? Nope. I routinely run my iPad Pro 10.5, which is now 2 years old, in split screen and have never had a problem. No lag, no slowing down, no RAM issues. iPhones do not multitask with multiple windows so 4GB is more than enough for years.
With all that said above, I do wonder why the Pro models are $300 more expensive than the 11. The 11 gives you the same RAM, processors, and 2/3 cameras. So OLED and that third camera are $300 more. I can see why many will go with 11 but it is great to see the 11 Pros seemingly doing much better than the XS models this time last year, and doing even better than the 11.
I don’t understand the obsession with RAM on iPhone. Does an iPad Pro with 4GB of RAM have problems running 2 and 3 apps at once? Nope. I routinely run my iPad Pro 10.5, which is now 2 years old, in split screen and have never had a problem. No lag, no slowing down, no RAM issues. iPhones do not multitask with multiple windows so 4GB is more than enough for years.
With all that said above, I do wonder why the Pro models are $300 more expensive than the 11. The 11 gives you the same RAM, processors, and 2/3 cameras. So OLED and that third camera are $300 more. I can see why many will go with 11 but it is great to see the 11 Pros seemingly doing much better than the XS models this time last year, and doing even better than the 11.
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Considering how well are 2 gigabytes device still running, the planning obsolescence is a thing existing only on this pages.
There are only few things I wanted to point out.
1. Coming from TENNA is a bit like info coming from FCC in US. I would consider those as fact.
2. The Battery Capacity were posted last week in official Apple documents, again no one wants to read about it, nor do media wants to run story on it. ( To Correct themselves )
3. The same goes to Memory Capacity, listed inside Xcode, the development tools for all Apps on iPhone. I posted this info in one of the discussions threads.
4. Both Battery AND Memory Capacity from Onleaks were WRONG. ( Which those with knowledge sort of knew it doesn't make sense, but then people believe it ) That is not the worst part though, the worst is every single major news media decide to run the story on it. Partly causing the Chaos we have today where GSMarena, T-Mobile and Vodafone UK listed the devices as 6GB Memory. ( And people are still wondering why it isn't 6GB )
5. The leaks on Battery Capacity from the ex-Foxconn employees turns out to be 100% accurate. ( But no medias wants to run it )
Basically it is the same problem with USB-C, despite giving all the fact why it doesn't make sense on iPhone, they still want to believe what they want to believe.
We are surely living in a strange world.
1. Coming from TENNA is a bit like info coming from FCC in US. I would consider those as fact.
2. The Battery Capacity were posted last week in official Apple documents, again no one wants to read about it, nor do media wants to run story on it. ( To Correct themselves )
3. The same goes to Memory Capacity, listed inside Xcode, the development tools for all Apps on iPhone. I posted this info in one of the discussions threads.
4. Both Battery AND Memory Capacity from Onleaks were WRONG. ( Which those with knowledge sort of knew it doesn't make sense, but then people believe it ) That is not the worst part though, the worst is every single major news media decide to run the story on it. Partly causing the Chaos we have today where GSMarena, T-Mobile and Vodafone UK listed the devices as 6GB Memory. ( And people are still wondering why it isn't 6GB )
5. The leaks on Battery Capacity from the ex-Foxconn employees turns out to be 100% accurate. ( But no medias wants to run it )
Basically it is the same problem with USB-C, despite giving all the fact why it doesn't make sense on iPhone, they still want to believe what they want to believe.
We are surely living in a strange world.
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I believe the two could have been misreported by media. The "average" upgrade cycle is roughly 3 years. That is helped by those who constantly buy a new phone in the bottom end ( Strangely enough ) and buy a new Flagship phone every year.
The "median" of upgrade cycle is now closer to 4 years.
That's not true. My S10+ 12gb damn near never reloads. Ram does play a factor, but it's not the sole reason.
I have a 6s with 2 GB RAM that runs perfectly. When does this planned obsolescence kick in so I can keep an eye out for it?
You mean on macrumors forum ? They would have complained even about 6 gigs because, you know, Samsung has 12.
I'm OK with it if the planned date is 6 years from launch as opposed to 2 years for Android phones.
I did, I owned both a 6 and 6 Plus. They should have had 2GB back then but the phone still managed to run reasonably well.
Everyone here wants Apple to keep up with Samsung in the ram race, it will never happen. Ever. Even google has 4GB on their last model and that’s for android. My phone has no issue keeping apps open for a reasonable amount of time without refresh. Considering the 6S ran great on iOS 12 and it had 2GB the longevity thing leaves me little to worry about.
I’m sorry but I don’t believe that.
Samsung has a very aggressive memory management.
12GB is quite a bit, that should solve the problem even with Samsung's aggressive memory management. I honestly don't even remember if my Note 9 with 6gb was better or worse than my 8 Plus, I think they were mostly fine. I might have noticed it a few times where the Note 9 decided to just kick something out of memory, but nothing significant.
I think this speaks volumes on how efficient iOS is compared to other OS’s. If the new iPhone can run that well on 4 GB compared to other phones who struggle with twice that amount that is a testament. Phone with higher ram but lesser performance scream flaws in OS and applications running a muck with hogging temporary memory storage because they are so heavy. No thank you.
Agree. The Pro model should have started with 128 Gb.
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Indeed. And even with 4 Gb it will be vastly superior than Android flagships sporting 32 Gb of RAM because “bigger numbers are impressive”.
Btw saying that iPhone 11 display is “2013” told me a lot about your competence in the field.
This in my opinion is what is more important. Some managed processes will slow down some if the chip decides to reach out to RAM. If memory serves me they stated the chip was designed with more L2 Cache memory. They did not disclose the actual numbers.
Yeah my phones do not do this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I suppose if you want a system that has 12GB ram head over to the Note 10+. I did for awhile.
Not reasonably well but terribly, I can’t count the times I experienced App reloads, especially in Safari tabs.
The iPhone 6 just wasn't a good phone to be honest. A bit under powered, low RAM, weak aluminum, OK'ish camera etc.
It wasn’t the best since it was mostly a bigger 5S. Apple just wanted to sell a bigger phone, although with more RAM it could have keep up for longer than it did.
Considering that Apple still sells iPhones with less ram, I think it’s safe to conclude that 4 gb of ram will suffice for many years to come.
Especially when Apple is cognisant of the fact that people are holding to their iPhones longer, so they are clearly shifting their strategy from selling iPhones to selling to people with iPhones.
All the more with Apple’s emphasis on services. You want as many of your devices to run the latest OS so users are eligible to subscribe, like Apple Arcade for iOS 13 or Apple Card with 12.4.
Hmm, Tmobile is listing the Pro and Pro Max with 6GB, and regular 11 with 4GB:
https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone/apple-iphone-11-pro-max?sku=190199380349
https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone/apple-iphone-11-pro-max?sku=190199380349
You know, it's funny... When I say an Apple product needs more RAM, people are quick to say that Apple doesn't need to keep up with Android device RAM.
The funny part is I never mention Android devices. I'm going by experience on actual iOS devices. Yet the response is either "Apple doesn't need as much RAM as Android" or else the flippant "Then just go buy an Android phone then!".
In fact, I'd say invoking Android all the time in this context has become almost an instinctual defence mechanism.
That's what I said when the iPhone 6 came out. I said it needed another GB of RAM at that stage of the game. People ignored that advice and then complained within a year that it was RAM starved.
Similarly, I think 2 GB RAM is limiting in 2019, although probably not quite as bad. Still not good, but not as bad. For a budget machine it's usable, but something as simple as using Safari can become an annoyance. 3 GB is much better.
OTOH, 4 GB seems just fine to me for an iPhone, and should be for most people for a couple of years.
You know, it's funny... When I say an Apple product needs more RAM, people are quick to say that Apple doesn't need to keep up with Android device RAM.
The funny part is I never mention Android devices. I'm going by experience on actual iOS devices. Yet the response is either "Apple doesn't need as much RAM as Android" or else the flippant "Then just go buy an Android phone then!".
In fact, I'd say invoking Android all the time in this context has become almost an instinctual defence mechanism.
No, I am not defending Apple here, the only other comparison to make is to Android devices so that's the logical leap.
I am critical of Apple frequently, I just do not believe that 6, 8 or 12GB RAM is needed for a phone at this point. Every device is a compromise and obviously Apple tries to balance what's good for them and what's good for users. For them is obviously money, but they also know that 99.9% of their users couldn't care less about the amount of RAM in a device as long as it runs well, and their devices do run well with even 2GB. You have users here stating that they dislike app refreshes and that for them they happen after 5 seconds of leaving the app, while I don't see usage like that on any of the devices in my household nor those devices I support.
Considering people can and do use iOS devices for video editing and countless other things I am blown away by the folks here that can't manage to use the phone in a basic manner without somehow seeing RAM shortages.
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Funny, because the number of people I support using a 6S don't have this complaint, at all. When I have used them recently I don't see those issues. How many tabs do you have open in Safari?
The iPhone 11 Pro is 0.4mm thicker than the iPhone XS...I think most will be ok with that for a considerably larger battery lol.