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I remember that MacBooks only had 4 GB RAM standard, just a couple of years ago.
Now they come with 8 GB standard. I don't really see the need for the iPhone to have 6 GB or more. It would be nice, but not necessary for a great user experience.
 
4GB of RAM across the entire iPhone 11 lineup is also consistent with benchmark results that have surfaced in reviews of the devices.

But that may be because so far we’ve only seen two or three out of five, possibly six iPhone models (read model numbers). I’m not saying that the missing models come with 6GB, but we’ve not seen them in the wild. That the benchmark data is still incomplete. Does not list all iPhone model numbers.
 
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I think this goes to show why Apples current products aren’t worth the prices they are set at.

There have been minimal internal/external upgrades over the XS Max and yet here in the UK prices have increased yet again.
 
“seen two or three out of five, possibly six iPhone models

Chances are though it’s been the 512gb that is being benchmarked and reviewed. Apple usually gives out their top spec for reviewing
 
Not really happy with 4GB of RAM for the pro models much

Not that I’m complaining memory management wise but I’d thought using all 3 cameras at once would require more than just 4GB of RAM.
And clearly you were wrong. :cool:
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Nice to see battery capacity catching up with <$100 budget phones but DRAM is a third of the way there for competing flagships.
Ok. Go buy those cheap $100 phone then.
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Bigger batteries are great, and IMO are a much bigger plus than 6 GB RAM in an iPhone. Kudos to MacRumors for digging this up, which further confirms what we saw in Geekbench and Antutu all along.

But I've repeatedly said before, I would hope to see 3 GB in the 10.2" iPad (but it may be 2) and I really want to see 6 GB across the board in the 4th generation iPad Pro (and I think that's very likely).
On an iPad Pro it could have much more sense.
 
Upgrade cycles are becoming longer because of high prices. The specs are and new technology has improved a lot ober the last few years back, but customers tend to take for granted as an obvious thing to happen in the tech world.
If the prices were in the range of iPhone 6-7 days once the new technology matures then more customers would be willing to upgrade yearly or every two years instead of 33 months.
The iPhone 11 is the same price as the 6/7 were.
 
2 GB devices are lagging now, although they're still OK.

This is why I would be disappointed to see only 2 GB in the 2019 iPad 10.2".
Tbh there is no lagging in my son’s iPad 2018. Maybe iPadOS 13 would be different. I don’t know.
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At the cost of extremely heavy and thick devices... I would have preferred a more elegant, light device than those ugly bricks. And anyhow, despite that battery, you'll still have to charge it every night!
Here we are ! After years of “Apple obsession about thinness ... make them thicker and add more battery !” Apple finally did it and it’s been criticized for “thick devices” (still thinner than most of the others).
 
I'm happy with a bigger battery and don't really care about only 4GB of RAM, what I do care about is only 64GB of storage as a starting point. For the cost it should be 128GB to start, come on Apple 64GB is the new 16GB.
 
I'm happy with a bigger battery and don't really care about only 4GB of RAM, what I do care about is only 64GB of storage as a starting point. For the cost it should be 128GB to start, come on Apple 64GB is the new 16GB.
Nah. 32 GB is the new 16 GB, and 64 GB is the new 32 GB.

But I agree, flagships should now come with 128 GB minimum.
 
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I think this goes to show why Apples current products aren’t worth the prices they are set at.

There have been minimal internal/external upgrades over the XS Max and yet here in the UK prices have increased yet again.

That's not Apple's fault, that's our fault as a nation for voting for Brexit. We've damaged the value of the pound and the result is imports are more expensive.

Who knows how it might play out in 10 - 20 years but before we maybe finally sort ourselves out, we effectively as a nation voted to be poorer. Good job UK...
 
But I thought iPhones didn’t need 4000mah batteries because of iOs. Now everybody is cheering.

Was it like today’s “they don’t need lots of ram because of ios”?

Apple’s marketing at its finest.

4Gb of RAM for 1500€. What a joke. Like low density LCD screens for 900€.

Apple always keeps some embarrasing spec so they can fix it in the future and call it a must. And also, of course, save some pennies.
 
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But I thought iPhones didn’t need 4000mah batteries because of iOs. Now everybody is cheering.

Was it like today’s “they don’t need lots of ram because of ios”?

Apple’s marketing at its finest.

4Gb of RAM for 1500€. What a joke. Like low density LCD screens for 900€.
Enjoy your android and move on...

Nobody said a bigger battery wasn’t a need or awesome to have. Stop lying.

More ram would be better but not a must have. On android they need more ram to cope
 
While I’m not counting on 6 GB in 2020, I’d be very happy to get a 6 GB / 128 GB 5G iPhone Max with 4000 mAh battery in 2020.


I missed that. What was the debate?
People were adamant that Apple would not release iOS 13.0, and some even hinted that those of us that did think Apple would release iOS 13 to the public were stupid for thinking that.
 
That's not Apple's fault, that's our fault as a nation for voting for Brexit. We've damaged the value of the pound and the result is imports are more expensive.

Who knows how it might play out in 10 - 20 years but before we maybe finally sort ourselves out, we effectively as a nation voted to be poorer. Good job UK...

They have increased also in Europe and many other places around the world. You’re just reflecting.
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Enjoy your android and move on...

Nobody said a bigger battery wasn’t a need or awesome to have. Stop lying.

More ram would be better but not a must have. On android they need more ram to cope

Oh, the poor boy is insecure. “Shut up and leave, I don’t want you to signal how ridiculous this is!!”

Don’t worry man. If you’re lucky enough, you’ll have 4Gb again next year. Or maybe even for a couple of years, until they upgrade to 5Gb. Also goes for those beautiful 2013 screens. Because 800€ is mid range for the forum billionaires, right?
 
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Dun dun dun, only 4 GB of Ram.

I wonder if the reports of 6 GB of ram are because of a similar situation as the iPad Pros with the 1 TB of storage.

There's no way of knowing until people get their hands on the devices and I'm jus speculating. But it'd be cool to have the option to get an extra 2 gigs of ram if we purchase the top of the line phone.
 
They have increased also in Europe and many other places around the world. You’re just reflecting.
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Oh, the poor boy is insecure. “Shut up and leave, I don’t want you to signal how ridiculous this is!!”

Don’t worry man. If you’re lucky enough, you’ll have 4Gb again next year. Or maybe even for a couple of years, until they upgrade to 5Gb. Also goes for those beautiful 2013 screens. Because 800€ is mid range for the forum billionaires, right?

You’re the one coming off all defensive about what other Apple fans have said or not said not me.

Wether it’s 4GB or 6GB it won’t affect my usage. The bonus would be keeping apps from refreshing less but is that a big deal? Not really

Nobody here who’s upgrading are upgrading based off 6GB or 4GB of ram
 
I'm not sure if all the commenters are pro users but I've had quite a few app restarts with my iPhone 7+ and it has 3GB. Would have really preferred to have 6GB to prevent fewer app restarts.
 
Close some stuff. You don’t need to leave everything open. Clear your web cache now and then. The phones are fine on RAM for now.

You say clear my web cache. You mean “clear history and website data”? Absolutely not, that’s a terrible solution.
 
Appears to be a case of some people feeling specs on paper are more important than actual usability. I don’t care how much RAM it has, as long as it runs fast and buttery smooth and accomplishes all I need and want the phone to do. If it runs that way whether or not it has 4 or 6 gigs of RAM, does it matter?

YES, ram does matter. All the software optimisation in the world doesn't alter the reality of the data size. Apple crap on about the Pro having 3 cameras that in some situations (deep fusion) are pre-taking 8 photos each that's 24 exposures plus the final shot. We got 4k media, 5G around the corner & 8k on the horizon. Data isn't getting smaller.
 
That's not Apple's fault, that's our fault as a nation for voting for Brexit. We've damaged the value of the pound and the result is imports are more expensive.

Who knows how it might play out in 10 - 20 years but before we maybe finally sort ourselves out, we effectively as a nation voted to be poorer. Good job UK...

If the remain dominated Theresa May government at the time went and negotiated properly instead of bending over backwards to the EU then they would have come back with a much better withdrawal agreement.

No deal planning should have been commenced from the day of the referendum result. Truth is they never even contemplated that the country would vote for Brexit such was their arrogance. Then they proceeded to dither and do zero planning for the next 3 years. instead they plotted to try any means possible to overturn the result.

The pound is fluctuating with the uncertainty of the situation. Even then its only by like 10p, I don't know what the fuss is all about, it hasn't effected me personally when I have been on holiday recently. The nation just needs to get Brexit done and deal with the issues that come with it instead of constant delays. As soon as Brexit is done the pound will recover and businesses panicking will ease once they know a direct path of action.

Back to Apple, if the China trade war continues and the US does in fact increase tariffs on all Apple goods later in the year then I would like to see if Apple absorbs those costs or passes them onto the customers. If they choose to absorb them then there is no reason why they couldn't absorb some of the costs that make international's prices so high. Tim Cook said recently that Apple would work to absorb some of the costs due to fluctuations in currency in international markets. This obviously hasn't happened.
 
Not bugged about the RAM in the slightest. If I have an issue with any memory then it is the storage capacity. 64GB base storage for the Pro is taking the yellow stuff.

I've reserved a 64GB Max but I am on the fence whether or not I take it up or just stick with my 256GB Max. Only thing tempting me is the lower monthly cost. I don't really need to have a photo collection back from almost 10 years ago taking up 40GB
 
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