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A lot of shocking news lately!!!!!

  • AniPhone charges slower via 15-watt inductive charging than via a 20-watt wired charger.
  • AniPhone with a smaller battery, faster processor, and larger display has shorter run time
  • An iPhone with smaller internal volume and additional components has a smaller battery than a phone with larger internal volume and fewer components.
  • The faster 5G cellular chipset consumes 20% more battery than the slower 4G chipset

This is all just NUTS!

It's like buying a car with a larger engine and getting worse fuel economy!
Ah, so it should be called the iPhone 12 Pro Sports!
 


Arun Maini today shared a new side-by-side iPhone battery life video test on his YouTube channel Mrwhosetheboss, timing how long the new iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro models last on a single charge compared to older models, with equal brightness, settings, battery health, and usage. All of the devices are running iOS 14 without a SIM card inserted.


In the test, the iPhone 11 Pro outlasted both the 6.1-inch iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro, despite being a smaller 5.8-inch device. When the iPhone 12 Pro ran out of battery, the iPhone 11 Pro still had 18% battery life remaining, and when the iPhone 12 powered off, the iPhone 11 Pro still had 14% battery life remaining.

The final rankings ended up as follows:
  • iPhone 11 Pro Max: 8 hours and 29 minutes
  • iPhone 11 Pro: 7 hours and 36 minutes
  • iPhone 12: 6 hours and 41 minutes
  • iPhone 12 Pro: 6 hours and 35 minutes
  • iPhone 11: 5 hours and 8 minutes
  • iPhone XR: 4 hours and 31 minutes
  • iPhone SE (2020): 3 hours and 59 minutes
These rankings are of course missing the iPhone 12 Pro Max and iPhone 12 Pro mini, which will be available to pre-order starting November 6.

Teardowns and regulatory filings have revealed that the entire iPhone 12 lineup features slightly lower battery capacities. iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro models share a 2,815 mAh battery, for example, while the iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro are equipped with 3,110 mAh and 3,046 mAh batteries, respectively.

While the more power efficient A14 Bionic chip in Apple's latest iPhones helps to offset the lower battery capacities, this test shows that the iPhone 11 Pro still lasts longer than the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro under heavy, continuous usage.

Apple's tech specs indicate that the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro provide up to 17 hours of video playback, compared to up to 18 hours on the iPhone 11 Pro, so Apple does acknowledge that the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro have slightly less battery life.

It will be interesting to see a real-world battery life test for the iPhone 12 Pro Max, as Apple's tech specs suggest that the device has equal battery life as the iPhone 11 Pro Max, at least based on its own metrics. Apple lists both devices as providing up to 20 hours of video playback and up to 80 hours of audio playback.

Article Link: iPhone 11 Pro Outlasts iPhone 12 and 12 Pro in Extensive Battery Life Test
No big deal for me. Find myself always charging in the car which keeps phone topped off. 11pro now and will eventually go to 12 pro .....or 13?
 
I mean....they can’t change the laws of battery physics. Fundamental breakthroughs will be needed in order to make something the size of the iPhone last a long time. The Toms Guide test was interesting. It seems that it really depends on what you are doing with the phone.
 
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And where's you're proof of all these customers that ACTUALLY wanted a 120Hz display and not 5G. I just love how people here speak for everyone else when they are shouting about their own personal needs and wants.

If you've actually used a high refresh rate display you wouldn't be so defensive.
Half the presentation was Verizon talking about 5G like it was christmas, I don't think it's unfair to say Verizon seems more hyped than your average consumer. I'm not against 5G but for actual user experience a 120Hz display is hands down better at this current state with cell networks.
 
I have a feeling next year’s modem will be more refined for battery drain, which should give Apple the ability to include 120hz. I agree, it wasn’t included this year due to the massive hit both would have. Probably a good decision, even though other companies are itching to become “first”.
Yeah. I'm bummed that we got the X55 instead of the X60 this year but I guess it was expected. X60 is a huge improvement and seems like the first 5G modem worth using
 
If you've actually used a high refresh rate display you wouldn't be so defensive.
Half the presentation was Verizon talking about 5G like it was christmas, I don't think it's unfair to say Verizon seems more hyped than your average consumer. I'm not against 5G but for actual user experience a 120Hz display is hands down better at this current state with cell networks.
LOL you must be referring to yourself because anyone can see that you are highly triggered by my reply to you. You were speaking for EVERYONE. You are not everyone so just say, "IMO" rather than say "Customers don't want 5G, they want a 120Hz". Yeah maybe some but you can't speak for others as a whole. Just because you want it a certain way doesn't mean the world agrees with you. And by the way you have no idea what I have used. I never stated I had no experience with 120Hz. Another wrong assertion. SMH.
 
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LOL you must be referring to yourself because anyone can see that you are highly triggered by my reply to you. You were speaking for EVERYONE. You are not everyone so just say, "IMO" rather than say "Customers don't want 5G, they want a 120Hz". Yeah maybe some but you can't speak for others as a whole. Just because you want it a certain way doesn't mean the world agrees with you.
Bruh we are on MacRumors forums on a Friday night talking about iPhone battery life chill
 
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I have to side with the whining on this thread. From an end user perspective, battery life should be among the very last things to be sacrificed in a smartphone, so this regression, if accurate, warrants all the negative attention it gets.

That said, what with Apple’s newfound commitment to the hashtag environment, maybe this is a supplementary initiative intended to make us use our phones less in an attempt compensate for how they turned us into screen-dependent crook-necked zombies in the first place. 😑
 
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I have to side with the whining on this thread. From an end user perspective, battery life should be among the very last things to be sacrificed in a smartphone, so this regression, if accurate, warrants all the negative attention it gets.

That said, what with Apple’s newfound commitment to the hashtag environment, maybe this is a supplementary initiative intended to make us use our phones less in an attempt compensate for how they turned us into screen-dependent crook-necked zombies in the first place. 😑
This is clearly only an issue for some. It may be an issue for you and some others, but it's not an issue for me and others. My prediction is this won't have any type of effect, that can be seen from the numbers on the sales.

As long as battery last a day for whatever typical usage is, it will all be good in the end for a majority, imo of course.
 
Results published about the Phone 12 and 12 Pro, when compared to 11 and 11 Pro, so far have been a bit contradictory.

Not only that, but these results are the weirdest, most questionable ones I’ve seen yet. The 11 Pro’s battery life isn’t 50% higher than the 11’s. 🤯🤯🤯🤯

Also, unless the 11, 11 Pro, and 11 Pro Max got new batteries installed for this test, they’re actually being tested with a handicap. 😂
 
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I mean....they can’t change the laws of battery physics. Fundamental breakthroughs will be needed to make something the size of the iPhone lasts a long time. The Toms Guide test was interesting. It seems that it really depends on what you are doing with the phone.

I'm glad you mentioned the size of the phone and physics. If Apple wasn't so obsessed with 'thin is in', then perhaps they could've made the phone just slightly thicker to ensure the battery would meet or exceed the previous year's model.
 
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The battery life will be worse than the 11/11 Pro, but it's not going to bad. There's a happy medium in here that people seem to be forgetting.
 
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A lot of shocking news lately!!!!!

  • AniPhone charges slower via 15-watt inductive charging than via a 20-watt wired charger.
  • AniPhone with a smaller battery, faster processor, and larger display has shorter run time
  • An iPhone with smaller internal volume and additional components has a smaller battery than a phone with larger internal volume and fewer components.
  • The faster 5G cellular chipset consumes 20% more battery than the slower 4G chipset

This is all just NUTS!

Well, nice rhetorical exercise but for me beside the point(s).
• Wired charger is not included, Apple charges extra money. Claims environment. Inductive charging, however, is less environmentally friendly as it is very inefficient 15w -> 8-9w real charge, whereas 20w -> 19w. Selling chargers extra takes more packing and volume.
• Exactly! The battery should be enhanced to counter processor and display. That's technical progress and innovation!
• Exactly! If you put a 50pounds rucksack on your back, you're gonna run slower and less fast. So get rid of the rucksack. Make the battery more efficient, again. This is a Phone, not a raw-power super computer!
• 5G has many more issues. Sure, one can switch it off.

P.S. Got the info about inductive charging from Dannys1: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...wired-20w-usb-c-charger.2262702/post-29095533
 
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Another Apple Apologist. Who says I seriously considered getting an iPhone 12. I waited to see what improvements were made and decided based on that that the iPhone 12 is a rubbish upgrade.

I don’t need to have the latest iPhone every year. In fact, I upgraded to the 11 Pro Max 2 months ago because my iPhone X battery was dying. I could have waited for the 12, but I’m glad I didn’t.
No, your problem is that when you rant (as you explicitly said you did), logic is thrown out the window. You very clearly said: "Will not be upgrading from the 11 Pro Max." There is zero reason to make that statement if you hadn't considered upgrading after just one year. Moreover, whenever somebody starts using absolute superlatives ("worst iPhone ever"), that is usually a sign that one shouldn't take that person seriously.

If you had tried to make a coherent argument, you could have said that the improvements (over the 11) simply fall clearly short of what would entice you to upgrade after just one year. Or even that in your opinion it was one of the updates with the least improvements. But that you were unable to notice that "worst iPhone ever" and "iPhone update with least improvements" are two quite different things, again shows that making a good argument is not your strong suit.
 
No, your problem is that when you rant (as you explicitly said you did), logic is thrown out the window. You very clearly said: "Will not be upgrading from the 11 Pro Max." There is zero reason to make that statement if you hadn't considered upgrading after just one year. Moreover, whenever somebody starts using absolute superlatives ("worst iPhone ever"), that is usually a sign that one shouldn't take that person seriously.

If you had tried to make a coherent argument, you could have said that the improvements (over the 11) simply fall clearly short of what would entice you to upgrade after just one year. Or even that in your opinion it was one of the updates with the least improvements. But that you were unable to notice that "worst iPhone ever" and "iPhone update with least improvements" are two quite different things, again shows that making a good argument is not your strong suit.

I really don’t need to make a good argument because I don’t give a hoot about anything you just said. iPhone 12 sucks garbage end of story.
 
• Wired charger is not included, Apple charges extra money. Claims environment. Inductive charging, however, is less environmentally friendly as it is very inefficient 15w -> 8-9w real charge, whereas 20w -> 19w. Selling chargers extra takes more packing and volume.
What has not including a charger to do with inductive charging? Apple explicitly includes a cable for normal, plugged-in charging, so it is not steering you into the direction of inductive charging with what it includes in the box.

And sure, Apple is taking a gamble that any extra packing for separately bought chargers is less than the packaging saved from smaller iPhone packaging because only a minority will actually buy a separate charger. But even if that were to balance out, there would still be the savings from not manufacturing all the not needed chargers.

It is undeniable that decent chargers (which includes those from Apple) basically last forever, whereas the electronic devices they come with don't (either because something breaks or they become obsolete due to no longer receiving software support or the customers simply preferring newer stuff). It it thus unavoidable that these chargers will start to accumulate at the customer end (sure, not evenly distributed, some customers will have a larger surplus than others).

The funny thing is that Apple could have said that they are giving everybody a voucher for a charger and nobody would have complained about this being a move by Apple to make more money, while at the same time not really complaining about the iPhone 12 being $100 (or $130) more expensive than the iPhone 11. You can raise a price by $130 but then give people a $20 voucher (for a charger) and they would be happy.
 
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Since nobody understood this so far, here’s some help:

In an OLED screen, battery life doesn’t differ much as you increase/decrease the brightness. It does change. But it changes much much more on a LCD.

So if you run these tests on much lower/real world brightness conditions,

11 will beat 11 Pro which in turn will still be ahead of 12/12 Pro.

Nobody actually uses their phone at full brightness. So for most people under real world usage, 11/12Pro both last less than an 11. And the 12/12 Pro will be much less than an 11.

Decreasing brightness a lot will greatly increase battery life of 11. But will only slightly increase battery life of 12/12Pro since they’re OLED.

So in short:

Under real world conditions:

12/12 Pro have way worse battery life than 11.
 
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Correct me if I’m wrong! Are all these new sealed iPhone? Or different age phone? Wouldn’t the iPhone 12 battery be so new it would need a few cycles before it reached its full capacity? And the other phones being older had that time to run in!

Practically speaking none of this makes any difference any more. Battery life doesn’t increase with battery age except if it’s indexing related, which it won’t be, here.
 
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Sorry. My mistake. I thought they had different screens.
EDIT: I have deleted my previous post.

11 Pro display is indeed different/better than 12.

12 Pro should be similar/better to 11 Pro, or maybe even the same.
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I bought my 11 pro a year ago and my battery health is still at 98%. That's incredible to me. I think Apple's new battery charging optimization really works because I'm pretty sure my 7+ after a year was down to 90% which is still outstanding.

Just down to the piece.
 
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