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If it was a hardware issue it wouldn’t work with a power source plugged in. And it wouldn’t only be on a certain state of the software, for example it’s only the Lock Screen that’s affected, but after that nothing else? Doesn’t make sense. It’s the software

This makes sense. I wonder if it's a sleep/wake state issue. With the magnet sensitivity built into these bodies, it could just be getting confused about when to fully wake up and start recognizing normal touches.
 
I'm hoping you're right, but mine isn't the same. When that animation goes away (but remains locked), nothing changes for m
This makes sense. I wonder if it's a sleep/wake state issue. With the magnet sensitivity built into these bodies, it could just be getting confused about when to fully wake up and start recognizing normal touches.
Yeah for sure something buggy, I’m finding that it’s mostly the animation related, I’m wondering if it’s trying to process too much at the same time and causing it to essentially “lag” or missing inputs - more to tell but the one thing I’ve found consistent is that whenever the buttons don’t work there’s some animation or movement on the screen
 
Well that was ridiculous. I went to restore my phones and all after noticing the problem. After reading this thread, i’m quite sure it is the case.

i have both an Apple magsafe silicone case and a generic silicone case. After removing either of them from my 12 mini, the lock screen keypad works perfectly.

i sure hope this is a software bug....
 
Well that was ridiculous. I went to restore my phones and all after noticing the problem. After reading this thread, i’m quite sure it is the case.

i have both an Apple magsafe silicone case and a generic silicone case. After removing either of them from my 12 mini, the lock screen keypad works perfectly.

i sure hope this is a software bug....
To reiterate, the proof it’s a software bug is the the buttons and everything else works perfectly except the Lock Screen - it might be a concurrency issue tbh, as in the new CPU and some of the old code doesn’t work well together and the concurrency isn’t working, or the new magnet itself. Remember that the magnet also does it’s own inputs
 
If it was a hardware issue it wouldn’t work with a power source plugged in. And it wouldn’t only be on a certain state of the software, for example it’s only the Lock Screen that’s affected, but after that nothing else? Doesn’t make sense. It’s the software

If it is a grounding issue (I.e hardware) plugging in the power cable could rectify this, or show different behaviour.
So I don’t believe your statement is true.
Most cases are insulating the edges of the phone from your hands.
Screen protectors will add a layer on electrical insulation across the screen ?
 
If it is a grounding issue (I.e hardware) plugging in the power cable could rectify this, or show different behaviour.
So I don’t believe your statement is true.
Most cases are insulating the edges of the phone from your hands.
Screen protectors will add a layer on electrical insulation across the screen ?
Based on what others have said, plugging in a cable does indeed rectify it.

I keep testing and the most consistent thing I'm seeing is that it works normal when I have skin touching the body anywhere, and it doesn't work right when it's not. I'm not saying it's not software related, but there's some type of a hardware aspect to it nonetheless.
 
Based on what others have said, plugging in a cable does indeed rectify it.

I keep testing and the most consistent thing I'm seeing is that it works normal when I have skin touching the body anywhere, and it doesn't work right when it's not. I'm not saying it's not software related, but there's some type of a hardware aspect to it nonetheless.
Well I actually tried plugging it in and using skin contact and I still had the bug - and I’m not just saying that to push my theory, I tried multiple times and it didn’t work some times so that’s why I believe it to be software
 
More oddities. Using the same criteria as above, different fingers touching the flashlight button behave differently...

My thumb can't get it to activate at all. My pointer finger gets it to activate every time.

Interestingly, my pointer finger won't work if I push too hard. But if I just barely touch it, it works 100% of the time.
 
More oddities. Using the same criteria as above, different fingers touching the flashlight button behave differently...

My thumb can't get it to activate at all. My pointer finger gets it to activate every time.
Funny I noticed too that my thumb didn’t work but my finger did
 
Funny I noticed too that my thumb didn’t work but my finger did

If I just barely touch one part of my thumb to it, it will work consistently. But it takes effort to touch it that lightly with my thumb. So weird.
 
Based on what others have said, plugging in a cable does indeed rectify it.

I keep testing and the most consistent thing I'm seeing is that it works normal when I have skin touching the body anywhere, and it doesn't work right when it's not. I'm not saying it's not software related, but there's some type of a hardware aspect to it nonetheless.

Yes I’m agreeing. There is some hardware issue at play here.
The touch screen on an iPhone is capacitive technology. It carry’s an electrical charge , when you touch the screen the phone detects the difference in charge, as your skin conducts electricity.
The case and / or screen protector is impacting its ability to do that.
Perhaps a grounding issue or sensitivity to that change in electrical charge.
I’m just putting theory’s out there I’m not saying it’s the answer.
 
Ok so I think it could be a pressure issue now.

When I literally just barely touch the screen, everything works fine - swipe unlocking, flashlight, camera, entering code. (Again, I have a glass protector)

But if I push even a bit harder than that, everything goes haywire again.
 
Screen protector is messing things up, not the case. Remove it and you’ll be fine again.
It's the case, not the screen protector. i have the same problem. Taking the case off with the tempered glass still on works perfectly
 
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If I just barely touch one part of my thumb to it, it will work consistently. But it takes effort to touch it that lightly with my thumb. So weird.
Here’s the thing that’s getting to me
1. It works when I use my thumb and I do it either slowly or lightly - tells me that it does work with my thumb
2. My thumb works for everything else no matter the pressure - this tells me the hardwares pressure sensors still work except for the one login instance of the software. If it was hardware it wouldn’t work at all

3. to reiterate point 2. It can’t be a grounding issue because it’s ONLY the login screen or flash light on said screen state, but we’d see the same issue on other software states

so it has to be software
 
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But one more thing to find out is if it’s only with the Face ID cameras/sensors on, because that can mean that when they turn on, they could be messing with the screens input
 
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Ok so I think it could be a pressure issue now.

When I literally just barely touch the screen, everything works fine - swipe unlocking, flashlight, camera, entering code. (Again, I have a glass protector)

But if I push even a bit harder than that, everything goes haywire again.

Not been pedantic but I think you might mean a smaller touch area.
The mini doesn’t have force touch , shouldn’t have any pressure sensors in it.
 
Try turning on the flashlight when an animation is moving, I’m plugged in and it still doesn’t turn on during an a summation
 
Here’s the thing that’s getting to me
1. It works when I use my thumb and I do it either slowly or lightly - tells me that it does work with my thumb
2. My thumb works for everything else no matter the pressure - this tells me the hardwares pressure sensors still work except for the one login instance of the software. If it was hardware it wouldn’t work at all

3. to reiterate point 2. It can’t be a grounding issue because it’s ONLY the login screen or flash light on said screen state, but we’d see the same issue on other software states

so it has to be software

The more I mess with it the more I think you're right. I've noticed at times Face ID seems to lag a bit and it simply won't register the swipe up the first time. Usually it registered the swipe up, and then unlocks in the process, even if it hesitates a bit at the top of the swipe to unlock. But it doesn't always do that now. It also seems to lag by a half a second in waking up on the double tap from time to time.
 
It's the case, not the screen protector. i have the same problem. Taking the case off with the tempered glass still on works perfectly

By that logic it’s also the screen protector... as when the screen protector is removed the problem goes away in or out of a case. By removing the case and providing an earth point (you) the problem goes away.

Lets put it this way, it’s only happening to people with a screen protector, not others who have just cases.

I think the issue here is a grounding problem.
 
I'm getting the issue as well IN the camera app. Couldn't swipe up to go home. it kept ignoring the swipe, and then taking a picture when my finger continued moving up and grazed the 'take pic' button.

Removing the case fixes it. My hunch is it is a hardware issue. Tempted to honestly go return the phone now.

Someone should get this on some tech blog's radar. Pretty big bug/issue to have on launch day.
 
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It's the screen protector problem, not the case.

I think I rushed putting on the screen protector and when I took it off, I could see fingerprints & smudges that maybe causing the lock screen to be non responsive.
 
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Not been pedantic but I think you might mean a smaller touch area.
The mini doesn’t have force touch , shouldn’t have any pressure sensors in it.

You're right, that's a more accurate way of saying it and more accurate period.

Try turning on the flashlight when an animation is moving, I’m plugged in and it still doesn’t turn on during an a summation

Yeah I can - I have to barely touch it, but it turns on and off even when the "swipe..." animation happening.
 
Here’s the thing that’s getting to me
1. It works when I use my thumb and I do it either slowly or lightly - tells me that it does work with my thumb
2. My thumb works for everything else no matter the pressure - this tells me the hardwares pressure sensors still work except for the one login instance of the software. If it was hardware it wouldn’t work at all

3. to reiterate point 2. It can’t be a grounding issue because it’s ONLY the login screen or flash light on said screen state, but we’d see the same issue on other software states

so it has to be software

The capacitive differences required in the touch screen could be software set differently in the Lock Screen to the Home Screen ( perhaps to stop false readings when in your pocket etc)
The case/and or protector and or grounding (or perhaps power input to the panel) is effecting that threshold of change required.
 
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I'm getting the issue as well IN the camera app. Couldn't swipe up to go home. it kept ignoring the swipe, and then taking a picture when my finger continued moving up and grazed the 'take pic' button.

Removing the case fixes it. My hunch is it is a hardware issue. Tempted to honestly go return the phone now.

Someone should get this on some tech blog's radar. Pretty big bug/issue to have on launch day.

What case? I'm wondering if it's a heavier/thicker case...
 
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