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I absolutely love my mini, coming from an 11 pro, the 12 pro was too big but the mini was amazing. I would be really disappointed if they discontinued it if there was no other sub-six inch phone to choose from. It seems to be doing about as well as the SE, which definitely shows the market is there, just a bit small.
 
Tech geeks have a really tough time understanding that their needs are generally never representative of the general public's needs. They can't see that people who frequent these websites are a small subset of the population.
I generally agree with this sentiment, but in this case I think what we're seeing is tech geeks assuming that because the 12 mini isn't selling like hotcakes right out of the gate, it's sales figures will never improve because "everyone likes bigger phones," and while clearly most people prefer larger devices, I think there's a large set of non-tech-geeks out there with 6,7,8's and OG SE's that are in no rush to get the latest shiny, but when they do I'll bet a lot of them go for the mini because it's closer in size to what they have currently, but not as boring as the new SE. Time will tell, but I think it's far too early to write off the mini.
 
I am talking about tv advertisements and the like, JPack. I didn't expect the mini to have high sales this go -round given the big phone competition but, I had hoped for a little better.

All the TV ads I've seen promote the iPhone 12 in general. They show the three rear cameras near the start, but end the ad showing all 4 new iPhones. Some of them even show the Max and mini.

Apple already gives a leg up to the mini by putting the 6.1" and 5.4" on a single web page. There is no separate product pages for iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini. Any visitor who looks for iPhone 12 specs or wants to buy one will see the mini.

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I went from a Xs to a 12 mini and am quite pleased with it. I feel like the mini is going to be a slow-burn sleeper hit eventually, although my evidence is anecdotal. Four friends of mine all thought they wanted the "normal" 12 until they realized the display of the mini is the same width as a 6,7,8, but taller (and yet still a smaller device overall). Once this pandemic finally ends and people can see the things in person, I think a lot of folks coming from a 6,7,8 will go for the phone most comparable in size to what they already have despite the (imho) misleading "mini" label.
I think that is an important point about the pandemic. The biggest reason for getting a small phone is to be unobtrusive and easier to fit in a pocket when out and about. Few people are out and about on a regular basis at the moment.
 
Looks like a fair amount of advertising in California. When did the state get out of lockdown?
We're still in a form of "lockdown" in LA. Schools, colleges, salons, barbershops, gyms, movie theaters, dine-in restaurants, bars, museums, wineries, breweries, theme parks, venues and events, etc etc are all closed. Retail, parks, beaches and "essential jobs" are all still open supposedly operating at 20% capacity. A bunch of film and TV studios just announced they are taking a break during the surge in cases as well, but they were allowed to operate as essential. None of these things have really affected advertising though.
 
That’s actually surprising. I would have thought more people went with the mini. I would have considered the mini if it at least had the same camera setup as the pro. I hope these Pros don’t get any larger because they’re almost impossible to use single handed if you’ve got small to medium sized hands.
 
Everyone I know loves theirs. It's the perfect form factor. The pro is too big. But the battery life is what's really killing sales.
Yep. The lackluster battery life of the 12 lineup, and with the smallest battery of them all, its gonna be a hard sale.

make it last a full day and it will be a top seller
 
$700 for a mini
$400 for an SE that’s only .25” bigger

While the mini is more feature packed, many people will be put off by the pricing.
That’s a interesting theory, but we have the data right in front of us showing that the SE sold comparably poorly. Both comprised around 6% of overall sales. At a $400 difference from the regular 12 it’s hard to say the SE is most often purchased for the size, and even if it was that’s only 12% of all people who wanted a small phone. The small phone market is real, but it’s clear that it’s not the gold mine the armchair analysts thought it would be
 
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I generally agree with this sentiment, but in this case I think what we're seeing is tech geeks assuming that because the 12 mini isn't selling like hotcakes right out of the gate, it's sales figures will never improve because "everyone likes bigger phones," and while clearly most people prefer larger devices, I think there's a large set of non-tech-geeks out there with 6,7,8's and OG SE's that are in no rush to get the latest shiny, but when they do I'll bet a lot of them go for the mini because it's closer in size to what they have currently, but not as boring as the new SE. Time will tell, but I think it's far too early to write off the mini.
This is a great point as well.
 
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I generally agree with this sentiment, but in this case I think what we're seeing is tech geeks assuming that because the 12 mini isn't selling like hotcakes right out of the gate, it's sales figures will never improve because "everyone likes bigger phones," and while clearly most people prefer larger devices, I think there's a large set of non-tech-geeks out there with 6,7,8's and OG SE's that are in no rush to get the latest shiny, but when they do I'll bet a lot of them go for the mini because it's closer in size to what they have currently, but not as boring as the new SE. Time will tell, but I think it's far too early to write off the mini.

Non-tech geeks are buying the iPhone XR and iPhone 11, not the iPhone 12 mini.

When the XR and 11 are discontinued, those consumers will choose something in the middle of the price pack. And something that everyone else carries. That's the 6.1" model.
 
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iPhone X was introduced late in November and it sold just fine. Ya'll love coming up with excuses.
lol. Are you really comparing the release of a long-awaited TOTL phone with entirely new technology to a size variant of the standard phone?

Also, your memory must be pretty short, because two months after the iPhone X release, there were a flood of reports that the iPhone X wasn’t selling well enough and Apple was reducing order sizes.
 
It might've helped if Apple, instead of charging for the iPhone 12 mini what they previously charged for the standard iPhone 11, charged $100 less and then slotted the standard non-Pro iPhone 12 in the aforementioned price point held by the standard iPhone 11 last year. I get that they need to compensate for the fact that people just don't upgrade their phones often, but they also need to not make that a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
Hopefully they just lower production of the mini models and don't do away with it. I'd still consider buying one but I'm just not buying a phone at all this year.
 
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If they would’ve made an iPhone 12 Pro mini, I would’ve been willing to pay the same price as the iPhone 12 Pro that I bought. As much as I wanted the smaller device, I couldn’t bear the thought of losing the 2x camera.
 
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Apple's 5.4-inch iPhone 12 mini, which is the smallest iPhone that has been released since the 2016 iPhone SE, may not be selling as well as Apple hoped. According to new sales numbers from Consumer Intelligence Research Partners, the iPhone 12 mini accounted for a lower number of sales than other iPhone 12 models that Apple offers.

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Combined, all new iPhone 12 models accounted for 76 percent of iPhone sales in the United States in October and November. The standard iPhone 12 was the best selling model, accounting for 27 percent of those sales.

iPhone 12 mini sales made up just six percent of the total iPhone 12 sales during the launch period, while the iPhone 12 Pro and Pro Max had sales numbers closer to the iPhone 12.Last year's iPhone 11 models accounted for 69 percent of sales in the period after their launch, so the iPhone 12 models did better overall. In 2019, the iPhone 11 was the best-selling iPhone, accounting for 39 percent of sales, with the 11 Pro and Pro Max making up the remaining 30 percent.CIRP speculates that the availability of lower-cost models like the $399 iPhone SE, $499 iPhone XR, and $599 iPhone 11, may have ultimately limited the appeal of the more expensive iPhone 12 mini, which is priced at $699.

Article Link: iPhone 12 Mini Sales Lackluster Compared to Other Models
I love my iPhone mini! It fits in my pocket, the battery life is sensational! The camera is spectacular! Sooooo happy with it. For day to day computing I prefer my MacBook Pro as it has so much more power...
 
I knew it! It used to be so fashionable to go around tirelessly complaining that Apple needs to make smaller phones, but this proves it — nobody actually wants that.
I'd say we need to see the tail end before jumping to conclusions...this data is skewed anyways as it is for the "launch months" of oct-nov (Meaning this is 2 weeks of sales for the mini/max.) A lot of people that would have went with the 12 Mini ended up jumping ship to the 12/12 Pro because of a month long release difference (IE, me, who went with the 12 pro.)

I think in the long term the non-launch date buyers will skew more for the low-end devices.
 
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