It’s also about longevity and the future of mobile computing. Opening conversations is not the primary target of these chips.
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iPhone 12 Pro Models Around 20-25% Faster Than iPhone 11 Pro Models in Early Benchmark Results
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We reached the point where these upgrades in speed are meaningful only for a handful of apps, outside photography, in a smartphone. Apple will probably start using the same processor, with tweaks, for a couple of generations of it's iPhone. I have the feeling that this new iPhone, besides 5G and some better video performance, really has a smaller difference between the previous one than ever before.
There used to be a time where each speed improvement was very visible and made the use of the phone better, but now there's really no really noticeable difference in performance, at least in "non game" or "non computational photography related" tasks, which are the majority of tasks people who have the income to afford an iPhone Pro use every day.
The iPhone reached what took computers double the time to reach.
I remember when, in order to use CAD programs, we had to purchase the "Pro" line of Macs, otherwise they would have been too slow. Now, the "pro" line, in iMacs, really is for a very specialized set of tasks. CAD, and even BIM runs plenty well on the "consumer" iMac (well, not the very basic one, but you get the idea).
iPhone are reaching the same point. Maybe not in 2020, but in the years to come I wonder which value proposition Apple will make to entice customers to upgrade.
I owned ALL iPhones from the very first one to the 11 Pro. And this year, for the first time, it's really hard for me to find a compelling reason to upgrade. (FYI last year there were the 3 cameras, 4K 60 fps, longer battery. As a VERY PERSONAL list of reasons).
There used to be a time where each speed improvement was very visible and made the use of the phone better, but now there's really no really noticeable difference in performance, at least in "non game" or "non computational photography related" tasks, which are the majority of tasks people who have the income to afford an iPhone Pro use every day.
The iPhone reached what took computers double the time to reach.
I remember when, in order to use CAD programs, we had to purchase the "Pro" line of Macs, otherwise they would have been too slow. Now, the "pro" line, in iMacs, really is for a very specialized set of tasks. CAD, and even BIM runs plenty well on the "consumer" iMac (well, not the very basic one, but you get the idea).
iPhone are reaching the same point. Maybe not in 2020, but in the years to come I wonder which value proposition Apple will make to entice customers to upgrade.
I owned ALL iPhones from the very first one to the 11 Pro. And this year, for the first time, it's really hard for me to find a compelling reason to upgrade. (FYI last year there were the 3 cameras, 4K 60 fps, longer battery. As a VERY PERSONAL list of reasons).
" so far, the new A14 Bionic chip is over 20 percent faster than its A13 predecessor in iPhone 11 Pro models"
yea this is expected - but I am thinking they could be running into a limit on how much more they push the CPU/GPU inside the enclosures - it looks like they spent a huge portion of the gains from going to 5n with the neural engine which its fine as photography is one of the big features that sells these phones.
yea this is expected - but I am thinking they could be running into a limit on how much more they push the CPU/GPU inside the enclosures - it looks like they spent a huge portion of the gains from going to 5n with the neural engine which its fine as photography is one of the big features that sells these phones.
NO, that's NOT the reason !
It's because whoever ran those particular Tests were starting from an Idle iPhone OR iPad, & did NOT give their iPhone OR iPad a chance to Wake Up & Warm Up BEFORE running the Tests !
Apple uses Extremely Sophisticated Power Mgmt, both for the processor cores & for the Ext DRAM.
no, but it is faster at collecting your data, and commercial profiling.
But we can’ t compare that in real life with android mobiles. But in theory the iPhone would be faster...
Dude have a glance at the generation gains Intel has been giving us. Garbage by comparison to what you are seeing here on a single year update.
I know I’ll get crucified for saying this as much as the iPhone 12 Pro has advanced over the iPhone 11 Pro: I don’t personally see a reason for upgrading my iPhone 11 Pro in midnight green to an iPhone 12 pro in blue.
- 5G: I’m almost always on WiFi yet advancements in mobile technology are always important regardless of how each of us use it. For the moment I don’t personally benefit from increased cellular speeds. i’ll hold off until 5G becomes more common especially as I live in Germany and the UK as well as the states.
- LiDAR is an interesting feature that may prove useful with time
- Camera improvements are always welcomed yet my 11 Pro takes excellent photos for a mobile device (still doesn’t beat my DSLR but that’s not the intention)
- MagSafe charging - I can see myself comically struggling to take my iPhone off my bedside charger. This would be more useful in my cars and laptops (hint: bring back MagSafe with USB-C!).
- Design changes are always great and I welcome the iPhone 4-5 style yet I always use a case (Pitaka makes the best as they’re slim and have protected my iPhones from drops on everything from concrete to marble)
Finally making OLED displays standard on the entire line is the biggest change and the iPhone 12 mini will appeal to many who want the older 5.4” size with the perfect price point. I believe people are under-appreciating this new model.
PS typing comments on MacRumors on my iPhone is painful. Why is this site the only one that constantly mistypes? Trying to correct it is a struggle using the site with iOS Safari.
- 5G: I’m almost always on WiFi yet advancements in mobile technology are always important regardless of how each of us use it. For the moment I don’t personally benefit from increased cellular speeds. i’ll hold off until 5G becomes more common especially as I live in Germany and the UK as well as the states.
- LiDAR is an interesting feature that may prove useful with time
- Camera improvements are always welcomed yet my 11 Pro takes excellent photos for a mobile device (still doesn’t beat my DSLR but that’s not the intention)
- MagSafe charging - I can see myself comically struggling to take my iPhone off my bedside charger. This would be more useful in my cars and laptops (hint: bring back MagSafe with USB-C!).
- Design changes are always great and I welcome the iPhone 4-5 style yet I always use a case (Pitaka makes the best as they’re slim and have protected my iPhones from drops on everything from concrete to marble)
Finally making OLED displays standard on the entire line is the biggest change and the iPhone 12 mini will appeal to many who want the older 5.4” size with the perfect price point. I believe people are under-appreciating this new model.
PS typing comments on MacRumors on my iPhone is painful. Why is this site the only one that constantly mistypes? Trying to correct it is a struggle using the site with iOS Safari.
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Benchmark results for the iPhone 12 Pro and iPhone 12 Pro Max are beginning to surface on Geekbench, and based on the scores available so far, the new A14 Bionic chip is over 20 percent faster than its A13 predecessor in iPhone 11 Pro models.
One result for the iPhone 12 Pro lists a single-core score of 1,597 and a multi-core score of 4,152, which is 26 percent faster than the iPhone 11 Pro's average single-core and multi-core scores of 1,327 and 3,289 respectively. Likewise, the iPhone 12 Pro Max is around 20-25 percent faster than the iPhone 11 Pro Max, although there are only two results so far.
As to be expected, iPhone 12 Pro performance appears to be roughly in line with the new iPad Air, which is also equipped with the A14 Bionic chip. In one result, for example, the new iPad Air had single-core and multi-core scores of 1,583 and 4,198 respectively.
iPhone13,3 corresponds with the 6.1-inch iPhone 12 Pro
It's worth noting that some results for the iPhone 12 Pro models are showing significantly lower multi-core scores, but Geekbench founder John Poole informed MacRumors that this is common with brand new iPhones with a fresh "out of box setup," as the devices could be in the process of being restored among other factors.
As noted by Apple, the A14 Bionic chip is the fastest smartphone chip ever, and the first to be built on a 5-nanometer process. The chip's integrated Neural Engine has also been doubled from 8-cores to 16-cores, making it up to 80 percent faster for machine learning tasks, such as applying Deep Fusion to improve detail in photos.
iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro pre-orders begin tomorrow at 5 a.m. Pacific Time, followed by the iPhone 12 mini and iPhone 12 Pro Max on November 6.
Article Link: iPhone 12 Pro Models Around 20-25% Faster Than iPhone 11 Pro Models in Early Benchmark Results
64% faster than the snapdragon 865+. The 875 will probably struggle.
Yea I kinda wonder how this is tested and how accurate it is. Like HP on a motorcycle at 300HP vs a 300HP 18 wheeler.
This is why I'm waiting for the new macbook instead of picking up an MBA now. It'll be an Apple xmas this year!
Except for haters, Siri is plenty smart, sure beats google in my house anyway and no spying. Of course, I am not one to play silly little games, so I can't judge that. Your complaint about YouTube seems to indicate you don't understand the issue, yes many iPhones (not just the new ones) are capable of decoding VP9 codecs, the fact that YouTube doesn't push them out is one that, until recently, VP9 simply wasn't installed in iOS (but you would think Google was smart enough to do there own decode if they wanted to). apparently Retroarch runs on iOS, here are the install instructions: https://docs.libretro.com/guides/install-ios/. And yes, the iPhone is certainly fast enough to place icons anywhere on the Home Screen and allow split screen multi-tasking. It seems a strange way of stating your point. But, if you prefer to use Android, why not just say that?
This isn't android which has an antiquated garbage collection process and thus need lots or RAM so you don't notice the slowdowns while it hogs the system to free up memory. No, iPhones have plenty of memory as is
I am really curious as to why? Is there some performance metric that iPhone do poorly on simply because of lack of memory? I haven’t owned an Android phone in so long that my experience with them is irrelevant to both current Android or iPhones. Is there a memory bottleneck that Apple has that Samsung/Google etc don’t?
Comparing geekbench across architectures is exactly that.
But pretty numbers keep the laymen excited.
yes, yes, everyone knows of the thermal headroom constraints of a small device. The speed point is that Apple has done incredible work in getting performance on these 5nm chips (which should dramatically lessen thermal constraints). Imagine what they will do when Apple silicon Macs arrive
Well I can say that my iPad Pro is faster than my 2017 iMac in photo editing. And my iMac has a 4 core i7 CPU with a Radeon 580Pro. That's not a synthetic benchmark, it's a sustained process of raw editing one after another.