would luv to see all the goodness of ip 12 put into the foot print of 1st gen ip se pictured far left
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iPhone 12 Sizes Compared with iPhone SE, 7, 8, SE 2, X, 11, 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max [Update]
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No. It's the width of the original SE and sides that can be gripped that matters for one handed use. The new SE with curved sides that feels too wide is not as good for one handed use. That's why the rumored 5.4” matters.
Nice size, but:
1) It's probably not "pro", and not THAT much smaller than my X, so...
2) It'll probably have a wide and ultrawide camera in that hideously big camera square hump, and my X has a standard and telephoto, so...
3) It doesn't look as sublimely sized as my iPhone 4, which is my daily driver, and which lays flat on a table, so...
... Yeah, I'll probably stick with my iPhone 4 and X. But this is a step in the right direction!
1) It's probably not "pro", and not THAT much smaller than my X, so...
2) It'll probably have a wide and ultrawide camera in that hideously big camera square hump, and my X has a standard and telephoto, so...
3) It doesn't look as sublimely sized as my iPhone 4, which is my daily driver, and which lays flat on a table, so...
... Yeah, I'll probably stick with my iPhone 4 and X. But this is a step in the right direction!
My wife had an iphone 8 plus. We both agreed it was unruly when trying to use. It didn't fit in her small purses and it was annoying to carry in my pocket. I'm looking forward to the smaller iphone 12.
Put in the 6/7/8 Plus models for comparison!
Appears that it may match up to the 11/12 Pro models.
Appears that it may match up to the 11/12 Pro models.
All of the rumours say they are all OLED this year.
Battery size is of course related to physical size of the device, so isn't really worth listing here.
Other features like RAM, pro motion, true colour are choices Apple make. Whether they include them in different models or not is nothing to do with size, it's to do with marketing strategy. You can view that as aiming for a lower price point for the "non-pro" models, or as a way of upselling customers to the more expensive and higher margin models - in reality I think both are true. But size is nothing to do with them.
You don't think they should offer 3 sizes, you don't like feature differentiation to hit lower price points, so you seem to be saying that you'd rather they only offered the two "Pro" models (apologies if that's a misreading, but that's where your words seem to point). But you can choose those if you want, so why does the existence of other models bother you? You find choosing between size, price and features "frustrating", so maybe you would find it simpler to have the choice made for you. But it is far more frustrating to only be offered something that is too big/too small/too expensive for you, which is what reducing choices means for many people. So while we can debate what features we'd like in what sizes, I have to respectfully disagree with your main statement: offering 3 sizes is a good thing, indeed the best thing they've done in a long time.
There is a research stated that 70mm width is the sweet spot for single hand use. I think this should be reason why the width of all iPhones are almost the same.
AAPL's Upper Mgmt knows that they have never had a Surge in Sales due strictly to a new technology.
Size changes have had the BIGGEST impact !
As such, for their 5G iPhones, they decided to downsize the 5.8" to 5.4" & upsize the 6.5" to 6.7" specifically to address that.
To them, that sort-of makes the newer sizes novel, & gives them a fighting chance (for better market success) !
The iPhone 6 family & the (super Hyped) 10-year anniversary iPhone X represent the ONLY two introductions that went really well for AAPL the past half-decade or so.
Size changes have had the BIGGEST impact !
As such, for their 5G iPhones, they decided to downsize the 5.8" to 5.4" & upsize the 6.5" to 6.7" specifically to address that.
To them, that sort-of makes the newer sizes novel, & gives them a fighting chance (for better market success) !
The iPhone 6 family & the (super Hyped) 10-year anniversary iPhone X represent the ONLY two introductions that went really well for AAPL the past half-decade or so.
Apple's new motto: there is a size for everyone!
So much for simplicity....
So much for simplicity....
Apple is planning on launching the iPhone 12 this fall which is rumored to be coming in 3 different sizes: 5.4", 6.1" and 6.7". The middle size (6.1") matches up with the currently shipping iPhone 11, but the other two sizes will be entirely new.
Over the weekend, there was some excitement about how well the new 5.4" iPhone 12 compares to the original iPhone SE. Those who have been hoping for a smaller iPhone see the 5.4" model as possible successor to the original iPhone SE in terms of one handed use.
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We were able to obtain iPhone 12 dummy models that have been circulating in China. The models are based on leaked schematics of the upcoming iPhone 12 and so are believed to represent the sizes of the new devices.
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We took photos of the models alongside our existing iPhone models to composite this image which shows the relative sizes of various iPhones. Note: the iPhone 11 Pro is essentially equivalent to the iPhone X in size, and the iPhone XR is the same size as the iPhone 11 and 6.1" iPhone 12.
Article Link: iPhone 12 Sizes Compared with iPhone SE, 7, 8, SE 2, X, 11, 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max
If Apple can pack most of 6S internals into an SE, then they can also pack the smaller 5.4" with top specs, right?
On the contrary, I’m happy to pay the same price for a smaller (equally capable) phone.
Are you sure that bezel is because it's LCD?
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I'm not sure but I believe the smallest one won't have a 5G radio, and I also believe that this is impacted by the size as the radio is likely more power hungry and needs a larger battery.
The argument that more choices is better just doesn't sit with me and Apple products. I'd rather Apple make fewer variants (perhaps a big phone and small phone in both a low spec and a high spec) and not a range of models that fall in between (not to mention the naming disaster being created old SE, new SE, the small 12, the medium 12...?). Added variety of hardware means more time spent trying to make hardware and software compliant with all devices. That time could be spent fixing bugs in iOS, or advancing the product in some novel way rather than redesigning the internals to add remove features over fractions of an inch of screen size.
Nope. I’ve tried it with an SE.
Holding an SE, my thumb can’t negotiate much more than it’s 4” display without changing my grip.
You are mistaken, I compare your response to a strawman style respone. The original SE remains the best for one handed use. The rumored 5.4” is much closer to that one-handed use that we original SE users seek. The new SE, like the iPhone 6, remains far more difficult to use in one hand.
It's not what I wrote.
Larger phones = more profit
Surely some customers want larger, higher end phones with more features, even if they’re more expensive.
And some/many(?) would be happy to pay the same price for a smaller (equally capable) phone.
Apple has done its math and found that a substantial number of customers buy the largest in order to have maximum specs., which they would not do if even the smallest were equal. Hence a reply to this:
