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Shooting pictures is literally the heaviest thing you can do with you phone. Is it that steep descent in the middle of the day? Also we’re you on LTE or WiFi?
It is indeed that steep descent. And yes, I do realize shooting pics can be a battery hog. But didn’t think it would be that ‘bad’.

50/50 LTE and wifi (wifi until 3 PM, LTE during rest of the day)

I should also say that, around 3 PM - as I left work, before shooting pictures - it was at 75% as you can see in the graph. But that was with very low usage. Nothing like camera usage, nor gaming or any sorts of heavy tasks. Just the occasional browsing, checking mails and fewer than 10 short calls. So 25% battery drain with some basic use cases. Is that a lot?

Because if it isn’t, then the camera usage might indeed be the main ‘issue’. But I would still be surprised, considered some people saying their 13 PM lasts for two days. Wonder how they manage that to happen. ?
 
I'll let respond someone who also have the Max. I have the regular Pro. But how much battery did you use shooting pictures? Almost 20 percent it seems. Without that you would sit now at 50% use with more than 5 hours of screen time, half of that on LTE which consumes double of WiFi, which is not bad. Also some backgound tasks. Many notifications? Music? That consume battery too. Most here with long battery life are using wifi and maybe watching videos which can lead to 15-20 hours of battery life. But "real world" usage is different. It seems to me too that the Max should last more by the way, but that looks still better than one day of mine when I'm always in LTE ?
 
I'll let respond someone who also have the Max. I have the regular Pro. But how much battery did you use shooting pictures? Almost 20 percent it seems. Without that you would sit now at 50% use with more than 5 hours of screen time, half of that on LTE which consumes double of WiFi, which is not bad. Also some backgound tasks. Many notifications? Music? That consume battery too. Most here with long battery life are using wifi and maybe watching videos which can lead to 15-20 hours of battery life. But "real world" usage is different. It seems to me too that the Max should last more by the way, but that looks still better than one day of mine when I'm always in LTE ?
I used about 20% during that time indeed. And as I’m looking through my activity log I forgot that I also used a bit of Apple Maps (albeit not for turn-by-turn directions).

But yeah, I did think about what difference it wouldn’t made if I wouldn’t have used the camera. Basically, if I put it very ‘black/white’, I’d have slightly less then 50% right now (but in reality it is 27% tho, as I’m typing this). 50% would be good.

I’m gonna try and watch what happens tomorrow if I don’t use the camera and maps app. If it does result in at least 20% better battery life, it makes an awful lot of difference. I mean, overall, with normal use it seems okay. Like I mentioned, as I’m typing this I’m at 27%. It was 31% when I posted my screenshot. And that’s with constant browsing at MacRumors. So very decent I’d say.

But I’d stick with my worries about the future. Because it might be good now, but what about 6 months from now? My iPhone 12 Pro was an absolute dumpster trash after less then a year of having it. It was actually one of the reasons I decided to upgrade to the 13 PM sooner rather than later.

Maybe a very stupid question, but what would be worse: all-day on LTE with good to great coverage OR all-day on poor wifi? Cause my work has this bad WiFi reception on several parts in the building. Would this drain the battery a lot compared to using LTE instead, you think?
 
I’ve got my iPhone 13 Pro Max for just a few days now, but I have been noticing that - compared to all the reviews and some of the posts here - battery life is … well, I don’t know actually whether it’s good.. But to me it doesn’t seem to be anything near some of the claims. What do you guys make of this? At 31% here at 11 PM.

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I should mention that I did put a backup on it, but I wonder whether this can make that huge of a deal. Also read about resetting just your settings being one solution, but that raises the same question to me: is it really going to make a noticeable difference?

I mean, I can make it through the day without much of an issue. But it feels like a bare upgrade from my iPhone 12 Pro, especially considering my heaviest usage of today was shooting some pictures for aan half hour straight.

Pretty disappointed now, so I hope anyone might have a solution. ?
You were getting just about 11 hours on a full charge. Not bad considering you were using the camera.
 
I used about 20% during that time indeed. And as I’m looking through my activity log I forgot that I also used a bit of Apple Maps (albeit not for turn-by-turn directions).

But yeah, I did think about what difference it wouldn’t made if I wouldn’t have used the camera. Basically, if I put it very ‘black/white’, I’d have slightly less then 50% right now (but in reality it is 27% tho, as I’m typing this). 50% would be good.

I’m gonna try and watch what happens tomorrow if I don’t use the camera and maps app. If it does result in at least 20% better battery life, it makes an awful lot of difference. I mean, overall, with normal use it seems okay. Like I mentioned, as I’m typing this I’m at 27%. It was 31% when I posted my screenshot. And that’s with constant browsing at MacRumors. So very decent I’d say.

But I’d stick with my worries about the future. Because it might be good now, but what about 6 months from now? My iPhone 12 Pro was an absolute dumpster trash after less then a year of having it. It was actually one of the reasons I decided to upgrade to the 13 PM sooner rather than later.

Maybe a very stupid question, but what would be worse: all-day on LTE with good to great coverage OR all-day on poor wifi? Cause my work has this bad WiFi reception on several parts in the building. Would this drain the battery a lot compared to using LTE instead, you think?
I think (not sure) bad Wifi still consumes less than good LTE. I was in an hotel with abysmal wifi the other day and the percentage just wouldn't go down. In LTE it would have been way worse.
 
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My 13 PM started to lose 4-5% through the night.. no apps in the back, WiFi and Mobile Data turned off. Will try turning Bluetooth off today.. maybe it’s a watch sync issue.
 
I think (not sure) bad Wifi still consumes less than good LTE. I was in an hotel with abysmal wifi the other day and the percentage just wouldn't go down. In LTE it would have been way worse.
Hmm, I see.

Well, I think I'm gonna have to try and see what happens today, when I don't use my camera. And make sure I don't switch to LTE at work, despite being tempted to do so when signal is pretty bad. So far, 1,5 hour after I took my phone from the charger, it's still at 100%. Yesterday around the same time it had already dropped to 98/97% while in standby mode, so I do consider that an improvement.

I'll get back later today with (hopefully) some better results.
 
I’ll just say I was surprised how much the camera drains battery on my 13 Pro. My impression is that it’s greater than on 11 Pro, but I’m aware that I don’t have actual data on this, just a feeling.

BTW, What’s the consensus on how many hours of use 13 Pro should provide?
 
At the moment we have the online endurance videos with about 9 hours of SoT in WiFi with also some videos in. That should be an average-to-good autonomy to have. It must also be considered that standby time still uses battery. For example yesterday was a good day for the battery and I didn't charge in the evening. So today I'm on my third day without charging the phone. But the SoT is way less, because in the meantime I had a lot of standby time. In LTE I might get 6/7 hours. In general I think those should be the average hours of autonomy.
 
This is rather ironic, but has anyone watching this thread tried staying away from this forum on their iPhone? That's what I decided to do after reading some posts in this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macrumors-site-forums-causing-battery-drain.2298839/

This is known. I never browse this forum with Safari, albeit I have an ad blocker. I'm mostly with my iMac or with Tapatalk if on the phone
So you reckon TapaTalk uses less battery to browse Macrumors than using Safari with an adblocker app? I find that interesting, since the last time I remember using Tapatalk Pro, the app was most intrusive and resource hungry POS that I had the misfortune of using.
99.9% of battery usage issues are user error, with that I mean apps and processes in the background etc causing drain. It's very rarely a hardware issue.
For those that have battery issues.
 
So you reckon TapaTalk uses less battery to browse Macrumors than using Safari with an adblocker app? I find that interesting, since the last time I remember using Tapatalk Pro, the app was most intrusive and resource hungry POS that I had the misfortune of using.
99.9% of battery usage issues are user error, with that I mean apps and processes in the background etc causing drain. It's very rarely a hardware issue.
For those that have battery issues.
I had an episode of Tapatalk with heavy usage, but it only happened once. Usually it's not battery hungry, at least from the stats. But I prefer Tapatalk because it's just faster to reach the discussions I'm subscribed to, write and attach images etc.
 
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BTW, What’s the consensus on how many hours of use 13 Pro should provide?

There can’t be a consensus on battery life because it really depends on individuals and what they use the phone for. Having said that I suppose it can’t be 1-2 hours.
 
So you reckon TapaTalk uses less battery to browse Macrumors than using Safari with an adblocker app? I find that interesting, since the last time I remember using Tapatalk Pro, the app was most intrusive and resource hungry POS that I had the misfortune of using.
99.9% of battery usage issues are user error, with that I mean apps and processes in the background etc causing drain. It's very rarely a hardware issue.
For those that have battery issues.

I use Tapatalk everyday and didn’t come across any resource hungry situation at all. Maybe I don’t track it close enough.
 
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I have been using Safari to browse macrumors using an ad blocker and I don’t notice any excess battery drain. Not any heat issues either.
 
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I stopped using Apple Music and my battery life improved drastically. 13 Pro, 15.2 b3
 
Hmm, I see.

Well, I think I'm gonna have to try and see what happens today, when I don't use my camera. And make sure I don't switch to LTE at work, despite being tempted to do so when signal is pretty bad. So far, 1,5 hour after I took my phone from the charger, it's still at 100%. Yesterday around the same time it had already dropped to 98/97% while in standby mode, so I do consider that an improvement.

I'll get back later today with (hopefully) some better results.
I couldn't produce the kind of results I wanted, because after 6 PM I started using the camera quite extensively.

However, I did notice something I'd consider a pattern; between 6 AM and 12 PM it went from 100% to 80%. And between 12 PM and 6 PM-ish it went to 60%. So if I hadn't used the camera, I'd probabably be around 40-45% by the time I go to bed (which is around 11 PM).

Keep in mind: this is with light to medium usage. E.g. browsing the web, reading some mail, WhatsApp, bits of calling (including one 15-minute call) etc. Nothing like gaming, using the camera etc. And when not in use, my iPhone is faced down.

Now, if aforementioned does hold up, I'd say it's an okayish result. I mean, it's much more than I need. However, it's still nothing like many of the other results I've seen with much heavier and constant usage. With my kind of usage, I wouldn't last two days without the need to recharge.

And yes, I do rely on LTE quite a lot. But I've seen some people saying that they notice higher battery drain when they use wifi all day long compared to using LTE. So not sure if I would make that much of a difference. It's important to say that LTE connectivity in the Netherlands is pretty good and stable.

I believe, reading some other stuff, my Apple Watch being connected all the time could be one reason for the not-too-good battery life. Furthermore, I have these Made for iPhone Hearing Aids connected to my phone as well. I need both, especially the connected hearing aids, to be able to make calls. So it's not something I can simply just turn off. It's possible that my phone is still doing some indexing. After all, it was quite the backup I restored. I've had over 200 apps, of which I have deleted over 30 just yesterday. Also tweaked some other settings, such as background app refresh, location services etc.

I feel like I'm missing out on the battery life that many claim to have, especially considering my light usage and how many settings I've tried to tweak. ? I know it might be a bit too premature to draw conclusions. But I'm pretty annoyed by this when I look at all the other iPhone 13 PM users over here. ?
 
Anyone having excessive drain while using amazon music? I uodated their app and it used to be minimal drain. Now when I stream in background (even offline music) my battery has some decent drain with screen off. This is yesterday. Tried to uninstall and reinstall. I realize 5 hours is good was much better. No background app refresh.
 

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So, another day, another try.

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Granted, it’s only limited SoT, I realize that. But I wanted to see how far I could get with minimal use, since it would give me a sense of whether there’s something wrong or not.

So, between 6 AM and right now - 11 PM, I have lost 40% battery. This is the kind of battery life I was expecting with medium usage. But in reality, it’s what I get with minimal usage. Think browsing, reading emails, WhatsApp, bit of Facebook and Instagram, and just a few minutes of snapping pics and basic photo editing in Lightroom.

Yesterday, I’ve changed quite some settings, hoping it could make a difference. And while I’m happy to see that even after a full day I still have 60% left, it’s kinda sad that it requires me to do as many tasks on my work PC as possible. For most of the time I put my phone face down on the desk.

Not be the constant whiner over here, but I’m wondering what y’all think of this. What more could I do to get some additional juice without having to resort to the resetting stuff? ?
 
So, another day, another try.

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Granted, it’s only limited SoT, I realize that. But I wanted to see how far I could get with minimal use, since it would give me a sense of whether there’s something wrong or not.

So, between 6 AM and right now - 11 PM, I have lost 40% battery. This is the kind of battery life I was expecting with medium usage. But in reality, it’s what I get with minimal usage. Think browsing, reading emails, WhatsApp, bit of Facebook and Instagram, and just a few minutes of snapping pics and basic photo editing in Lightroom.

Yesterday, I’ve changed quite some settings, hoping it could make a difference. And while I’m happy to see that even after a full day I still have 60% left, it’s kinda sad that it requires me to do as many tasks on my work PC as possible. For most of the time I put my phone face down on the desk.

Not be the constant whiner over here, but I’m wondering what y’all think of this. What more could I do to get some additional juice without having to resort to the resetting stuff? 😅
That’s a very artistic and beautiful curve you got going there.
 
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