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Tome personally, hardware is almost meaningless. It's all about he OS. I currently prefer iOS, as I am a Mac user and they just integrate so well. aka, the ecosystem. But Samsung makes an impressive phone, especisally the built in S-Pen.
One reason why I prefer appletv over a smart tv. The photos app, the music and podcast app and so on integrate well with my iPhone. It’s hard not buying a smart tv these days but I did not want one when I bought a new tv a few months ago.
 
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One reason why I prefer appletv over a smart tv. The photos app, the music and podcast app and so on integrate well with my iPhone. It’s hard not buying a smart tv these days but I did not want one when I bought a new tv a few months ago.

I didn't want a smart tv either and have some Apple TVs. But I recently bought a Sony 75 inch Bravia, and I don't think you can buy a decent TV any more without it being a smart tv.
 
Not very long, IMHO. iOS 15 shipped in September; it’s now February, and we have a beta of the feature that already seems to work rather well. So we’ll probably see the final ship in March or April.
The iOS 15 fiasco, the buggy Big Sur/Monterey, iCloud reliability, etc etc plenty of other examples. For a company that actually brags about it’s so called “tight” integration, they still have plenty of homework.

If they didn’t brag about it, it’s one thing. But the fact Apple kept bragging about it in every keynotes, well, they better stand up to their own claims that their stuff “just works.”
 
The iOS 15 fiasco, the buggy Big Sur/Monterey, iCloud reliability, etc etc plenty of other examples. For a company that actually brags about it’s so called “tight” integration, they still have plenty of homework.

If they didn’t brag about it, it’s one thing. But the fact Apple kept bragging about it in every keynotes, well, they better stand up to their own claims that their stuff “just works.”
Works fine for me.
 
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I didn't want a smart tv either and have some Apple TVs. But I recently bought a Sony 75 inch Bravia, and I don't think you can buy a decent TV any more without it being a smart tv.
True. My parents have a very large tv also and the HD appletv which works fine for them. Some people criticize Apple for the older CPU in the appletv but a iPhone modern cpu in a appletv would be major overkill for tvOS.
 
PPL commenting here, so what? Samsung has enough Power! Come here in 5 years and iPhone will be still buttery smooth while the Samsung will lag like 2015 phone.
 
The iOS 15 fiasco, the buggy Big Sur/Monterey, iCloud reliability, etc etc plenty of other examples. For a company that actually brags about it’s so called “tight” integration, they still have plenty of homework.

If they didn’t brag about it, it’s one thing. But the fact Apple kept bragging about it in every keynotes, well, they better stand up to their own claims that their stuff “just works.”

I will say the experience has been a pretty positive one overall, bugs and all. I don’t remember what the iOS 15 fiasco was about, but I always update on day 1 and has worked out well.

Examples of things that continue to work:

1) I have 2013 Apple TV’s in my classrooms, which still support airplay mirroring very well, so I am happy that Apple hasn’t broken anything yet.

2) You don’t realise how much you miss your Apple Watch until you go down marketing without it one day and then realise the hassle of unlocking your phone or making purchases with Apple Pay, or even just taking public transport.

3) There’s some fun synergy when using my MacBook Air and ipad together (like I take a screenshot on my laptop and annotate on it from my ipad with Apple Pencil), and I am looking forward to trying out universal control with iOS 15.

4) I have recently migrated over to iCloud Drive to save some money on my Dropbox subscription, and because OneDrive seems to have messed things up with their latest update.

Lots of little refinements that quickly pay for themselves in the form of improved productivity overall.
 
smartphones have been more or less the same over the last 6-7 or so years. apps on smartphones work pretty instantly and benchmarks that stress the phones out does not represent any performance benefit that consumers can feel. even if the iphone was 100x faster than the samsung phone, would you even feel that 100x?
After couple of years, yeah
 
Great that my iPhone is faster than any Android.

But people do not buy non-iPhones on raw performance and performance per watt alone.

They do so for other reasons like total cost of ownership especially in the sub-$399 market segment.

Be proud that people with the means can afford iPhones and any Apple devices as these industry leading in terms of over all user & ownership experience.

Those smartphones are superior to my 2012 iMac 27" Core i7 45nm that will be replaced by a 2022 iMac Pro 27" M1 Pro 5nm before Valentines Day 2023
True dat, except the S21 and S22 are not sub $400 phones.

That said, I don’t think it matters that much how fast the Max is unless people notice that the S22 is slow, which I doubt it is.
 
I’m not going to lie. I think Samsung also did a great job with the hardware design and the color. The phone itself looks futuristic. Have to give the credit where it’s due. Much respect to Samsung. Competition is a good thing and it will only push Apple to do bigger and better things. 📣🗣


I feel this is the first time in a long time Samsung is doing the entire refresh as an “S” cycle what were used to for iPhones.

I don’t really see anything great with the design, the S22+ Ultra looks the best but the metal from raised exposed camera lens will get scratched and potentially the glass lenses themselves may also get damaged. We’ll see though.
 
By the 4th year the Software Upgrade taxes the Apple chip and even the 4yo battery. Many wouldnt tolerate a bad user experience so would refrain from doing any Update that would impact performance

Cashflow-wise if there was a 93 month contract for an iPhone then it would be golden but financing often times are 1-3 years in length.

No need to sugar coat things. Call a spade a spade.
My 8+ is not experiencing any such problems. At 4.5 years old release-wise, though I bought it 2.5 yrs ago so the battery is not ancient. Battery Health 86%.

Gave my mom my 7+ and her battery finally bit the dust. But at 4 yrs isn’t that expected?
 
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The iPhone is going to need all that power to change an app icon on the iOS home screen.

And what happens when you want to plug your iPhone 13 to the USBC power cable that came with your Mac?

Processor speed isn't everything.

It plugs in perfectly with my Anker charger (USB-C to light night). Really your only argument is about a charging cable ?!! Really?!?
Tome personally, hardware is almost meaningless. It's all about he OS. I currently prefer iOS, as I am a Mac user and they just integrate so well. aka, the ecosystem. But Samsung makes an impressive phone, especisally the built in S-Pen.

But the os is where Samsung will continually fall into a lack lustre experience. The amount of duplicate apps for the same tasks the os ships with is has always been its major issue. Lets see in a few short weeks/months is a must to restart.
 
I will say the experience has been a pretty positive one overall, bugs and all. I don’t remember what the iOS 15 fiasco was about, but I always update on day 1 and has worked out well.

Examples of things that continue to work:

1) I have 2013 Apple TV’s in my classrooms, which still support airplay mirroring very well, so I am happy that Apple hasn’t broken anything yet.

2) You don’t realise how much you miss your Apple Watch until you go down marketing without it one day and then realise the hassle of unlocking your phone or making purchases with Apple Pay, or even just taking public transport.

3) There’s some fun synergy when using my MacBook Air and ipad together (like I take a screenshot on my laptop and annotate on it from my ipad with Apple Pencil), and I am looking forward to trying out universal control with iOS 15.

4) I have recently migrated over to iCloud Drive to save some money on my Dropbox subscription, and because OneDrive seems to have messed things up with their latest update.

Lots of little refinements that quickly pay for themselves in the form of improved productivity overall.
Agree with your examples as they were. But I think many people here can attest that the previous trust and reliability of Apple software has been seemingly degraded.
 
In before "it's not all about specs" posters chiming in. When Android were more powerful years ago and with better hardware, no one ever heard the end of it.

Now it's not about specs. LMAO. Give me a break.

Android phones suck. Synthetic benchmarks performance is much more important than not having a big ass notch on your screen.
 
My 8+ is not experiencing any such problems. At 4.5 years old release-wise, though I bought it 2.5 yrs ago so the battery is not ancient. Battery Health 86%.

Gave my mom my 7+ and her battery finally bit the dust. But at 4 yrs isn’t that expected?

Are they on iOS 15.3.1?
 
You can buy a used older iPHone that’s just as performant as a high end Android for the price of a low end Android phone. So this perception of “affordability” is crap. The fact that Apple continues to support older and older devices does in fact make them much more affordable.

No everyone is as comfortable as you are with buying used.

Longer support for older devices is much more of a benefit for app developers than consumers as it reduces their development cost
 
No everyone is as comfortable as you are with buying used.

Longer support for older devices is much more of a benefit for app developers than consumers as it reduces their development cost

There are far more used phones in the marketplace so I'd think that most people either buy used or get hand-me-downs.
 
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