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Yep. If you are going to post opinions that look like fact, be prepared to provide a citation.

I’m glad though on 12/1/21 google and Qualcomm finally discussed their collaboration. Makes one wonder what they were doing prior to 12/1/21.
 
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Yep. If you are going to post opinions that look like fact, be prepared to provide a citation.
Says somebody that was never able to provide citations when trying to contradict me.
You have to admit the first link was pretty great, it killed two birds with one stone.
 
Speed isn’t everything but it definitely enhances the UX. A couple of my friends just switched from Android because their Pixel phones became unusable after a couple of years. This happened to me back in the day when I rocked HTC’s.

So Android hardware is not only slower but Android itself slows it down even more over time. Hmmm… looks like Android is the new Windows.
 
iPhone is more powerful, not faster. Benchmarks don’t show how fast each phone is at opening apps and and multitasking. iPhone has more power than 95% of people need. Opening up Spotify is faster on a Samsung than a iPhone.
 
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iPhone is more powerful, not faster. Benchmarks don’t show how fast each phone is at opening apps and and multitasking. iPhone has more power than 95% of people need. Opening up Spotify is faster on a Samsung than a iPhone.
The time needed to open apps is a function of the speed of the phone/memory/ram, the speed of the internet connection and the opening animation induced delays. Spotify could open faster on Samsung simply due to fewer delays based on opening animation.
 
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Actually that's not true. You can uninstall all Google apps besides: Chrome, Youtube and Gmail from Samsung smarphones. I tested it on OneUI 4 recently, so there are hardly any duplicate apps.
The OS experience on Samsung smarphones is definitely not lack lustre and it's hard to see any real major advantage iOS would have in this department.
This is NOT true for All Samsung phones.

OneUI1/2 still had specifics from Samsung which could not be removed.

The moment you make a blanket statement yet have to be specific with what will fit into it, the. It’s no longer a worthwhile statement to make.

Uninstalling apps does NOT in any way make my statement false!

I stated Samsung has many duplicate apps already that come shipped with the oS. And they do! S this and S that all Samsung rebranded apps. Why are they there if a seasoned Android use needs to uninstall or feels the need to uninstall them?! Get it? It’s still shipping with such useless apps. This is a bad user experience.

Simple don’t ship junk. Don’t include it. That’ll increase the user experience.
 
The time needed to open apps is a function of the speed of the phone/memory/ram, the speed of the internet connection and the opening animation induced delays. Spotify could open faster on Samsung simply due to fewer delays based on opening animation.
Watch speed tests on YouTube. Majority of apps open quicker on android. That’s what matters to most people.
 
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Watch speed tests on YouTube. Majority of apps open quicker on android. That’s what matters to most people.
I’ve seen the speed test and they are generally all over the place. App opening speed for me personally (I dont know what matters to most people) is low down on the list of things I focus on…however it may be certain YouTube videos show a specific result , however it could be due to app opening animation.
 
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This is NOT true for All Samsung phones.

OneUI1/2 still had specifics from Samsung which could not be removed.

I didn't say anywhere it's true for all samsung smartphones in existence. I mean the subject here is S22 lineup so I don't see how OneUI 1 or 2 Samsung smartphones are relevant in this discussion. If you have to go back that far it becomes obvious how weak your argument is, not to mention you were talking about present phones samsung shippes. What's the point in talking about an S6 for example and it's software experience on an article about Samsung launching the S22 which on a different level entirely in terms of software?
Like I've said, app doubling is definitely not a problem anymore.

Uninstalling apps does NOT in any way make my statement false!

It definitely does as the problem you are suggesting makes Samsung overall OS experience lacklustre doesn't really exist.

I stated Samsung has many duplicate apps already that come shipped with the oS. And they do! S this and S that all Samsung rebranded apps. Why are they there if a seasoned Android use needs to uninstall or feels the need to uninstall them?! Get it? It’s still shipping with such useless apps. This is a bad user experience.

Because Google forces OEMs to install them.
Most Samsung apps are not S this and S that and I had to install most Google apps myself, most of them didn't come per-shipped on the phone.
And now you are trying to shift and suggest that the big issues is with uninstalling a few apps? Now that's funny. I guess according you your logic the Software experience from a Motorola smartphone is considerably superior than Samsung's because you don't have to uninstall 2-3 apps.


Simple don’t ship junk. Don’t include it. That’ll increase the user experience.

It's definitely not junk, Google's system apps are really decent in general and I don't see how they could be considered junk in any way. Users can simply choose to use Samsung's app or Google's app. Yeah you can uninstall a lot of Samsung apps as well and keep the Google app if you like it more.
 
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Cool, I guess? I’m looking forward to when this means a smarter keyboard, faster Siri and better object segmentation in pictures and video.

Until then I don’t really understand why these scores are important.
100% agree with this post! While it's nice Siri sounds better than Google Assistant, I would love to replace her with GA on my iPhone if given the chance. I already use the awkward "Hey Siri - Okay Google" shortcut, but that's nowhere as good as a friendlier, more intelligent Google Assistant. This one lacking feature has me continually looking at the latest Android handsets to see if it's worth the hassle (and saying goodbye to my Apple Watch) to make the switch (back) to Android.
 
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Watch speed tests on YouTube. Majority of apps open quicker on android. That’s what matters to most people.

When I play video games all I care about is how fast the game gets to the main screen. I don’t care about FPS or quality.

In fact, I propose we change benchmarking of PC gaming rigs to the following regimen:

Launch 10 different games one after the other until you get to the main menu before launching the next game. Then repeat this a second time. The total time it takes to launch games will tell us who has the faster gaming rig. No need to run CPU/GPU tests. Only thing that matters is loading times.
 
When I play video games all I care about is how fast the game gets to the main screen. I don’t care about FPS or quality.

In fact, I propose we change benchmarking of PC gaming rigs to the following regimen:

Launch 10 different games one after the other until you get to the main menu before launching the next game. Then repeat this a second time. The total time it takes to launch games will tell us who has the faster gaming rig. No need to run CPU/GPU tests. Only thing that matters is loading times.
This makes no sense if anything loads in 10 seconds @30fps or 15 seconds @60Fps... (not how it works but simplifying for your example) no one would want the faster load time and it is certainly not how you measure gaming rigs ?

on the topic of this thread, I am not the least bit surprised Samsung is still a couple of years behind in performance
 
I didn't say anywhere it's true for all samsung smartphones in existence. I mean the subject here is S22 lineup so I don't see how OneUI 1 or 2 Samsung smartphones are relevant in this discussion. If you have to go back that far it becomes obvious how weak your argument is, not to mention you were talking about present phones samsung shippes. What's the point in talking about an S6 for example and it's software experience on an article about Samsung launching the S22 which on a different level entirely in terms of software?
Like I've said, app doubling is definitely not a problem anymore.



It definitely does as the problem you are suggesting makes Samsung overall OS experience lacklustre doesn't really exist.



Because Google forces OEMs to install them.
Most Samsung apps are not S this and S that and I had to install most Google apps myself, most of them didn't come per-shipped on the phone.
And now you are trying to shift and suggest that the big issues is with uninstalling a few apps? Now that's funny. I guess according you your logic the Software experience from a Motorola smartphone is considerably superior than Samsung's because you don't have to uninstall 2-3 apps.




It's definitely not junk, Google's system apps are really decent in general and I don't see how they could be considered junk in any way. Users can simply choose to use Samsung's app or Google's app. Yeah you can uninstall a lot of Samsung apps as well and keep the Google app if you like it more.

Yet the subject is Samsung and I wasn’t originally just talking about the S22 when you began the debate, I did state:

But the os is where Samsung will continually fall into a lack lustre experience.

The more Samsung continues to duplicate existing features of the OS, the more bloat it ads, the more it affects end user experience, and not always in a positive light.

Tell me what happens to any Android device with uptime close to 1yr (no reboots, except for OS updates from Google/manufacturer). Tell me what happens to the performance of those apps after launch. Continually the Android OS begins to bog down. Too many processes running that are not clear to the end user, that don’t necessarily need to be running to no benefit of the end user. RAM management is still A terrible dog with a broken back.

IF the OS was sound, tell me why only this past week has Samsung guaranteed 4yrs of OS updates?!! As a Samsung customer of last years models I’d be super pissed about this. Then again I know OS updates are a joke in Android world
so I’ve never purchased new or hanged onto an Android phone in active use more than 25 days. The last one I owned, Sony Xperia 5 Compact, which was great in it’s day as a top tier device, took longer to sell than I used it for. I gave it away. Tell me what Samsung phone you can have stored for 3yrs and pickup without re-installing the OS, keeping your former setup and just start using? I can do that with a 12yr old iPhone 4S though. No I cannot run the latest versions of their apps but:
I can reliably:
Make calls,
sms/iMessage/MMS,
file management using FEExplorer or Files,
access shared drives (with the above) or online files - box, Dropbox, Mega.Nz, take your pick,
browser the internet without issues on EDGE/GPRS (until those networks become insolvent/obsolete and no longer something I can connect to),
I can hold a conversation on phone call for over an hour continuous,
i can use the headset or speakers or microphone for video calls (FaceTime, WhatsApp, etc, maybe not Zoom havent’ tried downloading).
Emails, rich html emails still work.
Maps (Apple or Google) still works and works well.
Oh wait … the APP STORE is still working! 12 yr old phone!

I literary can use this phone reliably as a travel backup - which I actually intend to use this year. I doubt the same can be said for even a 5yr Android phone, again without re-installing the OS and pre-wipe from scratch.

Again the OS is not specific to the G22 series. That was my statement from the get go.

Why would Samsung need to duplicate an app in the first place?
Waste of R&D, waste of internal coders time and resources that can go to much better things.
 
This makes no sense if anything loads in 10 seconds @30fps or 15 seconds @60Fps... (not how it works but simplifying for your example) no one would want the faster load time and it is certainly not how you measure gaming rigs ?

on the topic of this thread, I am not the least bit surprised Samsung is still a couple of years behind in performance
It was sarcasm.
 
Oh jeez, here come the therapy sessions for Apple loyalists. Don't worry, your iPhone still works, regardless how good the S22 is. Anytime Samsung has new release, just watch this...


I think you misread the article
 
As an avid Apple supporter, I detest these types of articles Macrumors. The authors know this will cause divided controversy and silly arguments which phone is faster. Both phones are plenty fast to the consumer.

FYI…’Faster’ isn’t always a notable effect to the consumer, the experience with the features is far more of a crucial experience over speed, which ever phone the consumer prefers is based on experience, not ‘speed’.
No, you are right. Someone might be offended or triggered. We don't want people suffering.
 
Mobile is playground for Apple for development of high performance chip for other segments. Its too bad they didn't put as much effort in design and marketing of their laptop segment as for IPhone. They have great (maybe even the best) hardware but apart of 2021 M1 Air design and ergonomics sucks.
 
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