Battery life. At least that is what the rumours are saying. The iPhone 12 can run its display at 120 Hz, it is just that his reduces battery life a bit too much. They've thus decided to only offer this next year when new display technology makes it possible to achieve 120 Hz with less of an impact on battery life.
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iPhone 13 Lineup Rumored to Feature 120Hz ProMotion Displays, No iPhone SE 3 Until 2022
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iPhone 12 is not even out yet, come on, give us a break, jeez..It's ridiculous really...
Experienced display analyst Ross Young has today shared a range of information from Mizuho Securities about the "iPhone 13," rumored to succeed the upcoming iPhone 12 lineup, and the third-generation iPhone SE.
The projected iPhone 13 lineup looks very similar to the expected iPhone 12 lineup, encompassing one 6.7-inch "Pro Max" model, one 6.1-inch "Pro" model, one 6.1-inch non-Pro model, and one 5.4-inch "mini" model. It follows therefore that the devices will not see significant changes to design or form-factor.
All iPhone 13 models are speculated to have integrated touch technology, and Chinese firm BOE Technology will join LG Display in producing displays for the 6.1-inch iPhone 13 and iPhone 13 Pro. Samsung is believed to supply Apple with Y-Octa technology for all iPhone 13 displays.
Young says that the "most important development" on the iPhone 13 Pro models will be the adoption of 120Hz-capable ProMotion displays with variable refresh rates, accommodated by the adoption of LTPO display technology. After a range of mixed reports, rumors now seem to be largely in agreement that 120Hz displays will not come to the iPhone until 2021.
The iPhone 13 and iPhone 13 mini will reportedly gain the same camera sensors as the iPhone 12 Pro Max, while the sensor size of both Pro models will increase. This means that there will be significant camera improvements on all models.
While Young expects both iPhone 13 Pro models to have a LiDAR Scanner on the rear, it is unknown whether the feature will come to the non-Pro models. For the iPhone 12, rumors have not been clear on whether LiDAR will come to all Pro-models or just the 6.7-inch iPhone 12 Pro Max.
All iPhone 13 models may get sub-6GHz 5G connectivity, but the Pro models will also have faster mmWave 5G in addition to the slower but more widespread connection. This year, the iPhone 12 Pro Max is the only model rumored to offer mmWave 5G.
With LiDAR and mmWave on both iPhone 13 Pro models, it seems that if the iPhone 12 lineup reserves these high-end features for the Pro Max model only, 2021 will see a leveling-up of features among the Pro models.
There will also apparently not be a third-generation iPhone SE until Spring 2022. The third-generation iPhone SE is expected to have a 6.1-inch LCD display, Touch ID, sub-6GHz 5G, and the same dual cameras as the iPhone 11. This suggests it will mirror the design of 2019's iPhone 11, just as previous iPhone SE models have repeated the design of an older device with upgraded internals, and presumably have Touch ID integrated into the lock button like the iPad Air 4.
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So, Apple innovated with the iPad by having a thicker bezel that allowed them to include FaceID without a notch?
No SE in 2021?
Is this a joke?
How much would investor banks pay me for professional guessing paper that also have this amazing info:
#1 There will not be new SE model every year.
#2 There will not be new Mac Pro every year.
#3 There wil not be new Mac Mini every year.
Is this a joke?
How much would investor banks pay me for professional guessing paper that also have this amazing info:
#1 There will not be new SE model every year.
#2 There will not be new Mac Pro every year.
#3 There wil not be new Mac Mini every year.
New design = looks different and feels different in hand
(of course excluding different colours and slight changes in surface texture, those change more often)
Because it’s my money and I spend it the way I want? Which is what hundreds of millions say as they buy iPhones every year.
The number 4 is considered unlucky in East Asia, however, there are many products with 4 as their primal model number, not least the iPhone 4 or just now the iPad Air 4. We also had iOS 13 and macOS 10.13. Generally, software has been much less shy in regarding to using the number 13, partly because software tends to go through version numbers faster, but probably also because software code often expects version numbers to increment. Note the kerfufle with Big Sur that has both the version number macOS 11 and macOS 10.16 (as some older software expects macOS version numbers to start with 10.x).
But a number of products have jumped to 20 this year in their model numbering, for example the Galaxy S20 (previous model was the S10), incorporating the year into the name. The photo editing application Capture One was at version number 12 last year and this year moved to Capture One 20 (technically it came out last December). The number 20 is nice round number and with the year having two 20s (2020), it all has a nice ring to it, but maybe Capture One also wanted to avoid the number 13.
One “valid” reason? Well, I’m not sure it’s been validated by you, but 5G is the most obvious. I could have bought an 11 this year, but I didn’t. I don’t want to be without 5G for the next 5 years. And I want a smaller phone than my 6s. That’s my reasoning behind why I decided to wait.
The 11 isn’t going to be half the price of a 12. iPhones keep their value, they don’t drop like a rock 3-6 months after they’re released. You seem new to iPhone; that’s great, you can learn a lot around here. The 11 will likely start at $599, taking the place of the XR. I’ll guess the 12 mini will be $699, and the 12 $799.
Like I said, not everyone wants what you want. Your must-have feature, well, I might not care about it at all. Hopefully that makes sense 🙂
I’m not convinced the SE3 will be a 6.1”; Apple will want to keep the price at $399, and with the 6.1” 12S at ~$749, if the major difference is just OLED and FaceID, who would pay an extra $350 for that? That’s almost double.
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This looks like more a 12s than a 13 but it’s giving me pause. I purchased the regular iPhone 11 over the Pro because I was deadset on getting the 12 Pro when it released. Then I start seeing features getting dropped and added and dropped again on all these different iPhone 12 models which is pushing me towards the Pro Max. I’m very tempted by the Pro Max but it appears the 13 will for sure get the 120Hz screen and mmWAVE 5G plus an even nicer camera and screen tech over the 12 so now I’m thinking of waiting for that once since I really don’t mind my 11.
I dunno all this stuff is crazy. All it looks like is that the 13 is the 12 we should be getting this year but is being pushed back to next years is all I’m saying.
I dunno all this stuff is crazy. All it looks like is that the 13 is the 12 we should be getting this year but is being pushed back to next years is all I’m saying.
Don’t think do. Else the rumored iPhone 12 would have been called the iPhone 11s Pro Max. Of course since the iPhone 12 hadn’t been released yet...
Your rebuttal is solid but the other point, perhaps considered over-pedantic by some, is that no one can make any definitive assertions about reasons for getting an iPhone 11 vs 12 since that requires comparing two known things. The iPhone 12 that we would have to consider in any such search for a "valid" reason to choose it over an 11 is currently informed entirely by rumours rather than facts so we can't know for sure exactly what it will look like or the feature set that it will have. Admittedly for as long as I have been following the iPhone world (since the run-up to the iPhone 4 launch) the rumours have coalesced to form a pretty accurate picture of every upcoming iPhone by the time we get to launch day, depressingly accurate for those of us who would relish the odd (pleasant) surprise during a launch event, but we should still bear in mind that we don't know for sure the details of the iPhone 12 until it is actually launched.
Thinking back after typing the above I'd actually say that the biggest surprise unexpected thing at an iPhone launch that the rumours didn't pick up on at all, or at least not any rumours that I spotted beforehand, was at last year's launch event. Maybe it's just because it's such an important feature to me and I pay so much attention to it but after years of iPhone launches where the newly announced model usually just about managed to maintain the same battery life as the previous year's model or show a fairly modest increase at best, I was totally blind-sided last year when they announced 5 more hours of battery life, about a 33% increase, for the iPhone 11 Pro Max battery life vs the Xs Max and almost as big a jump on the non-Max versions as well. That's the only real "wow, I wasn't expecting that" moment I've had since watching all the launch events from the iPhone 4 one onwards. I'd actually been watching last year's event purely out of habit and idle curiosity with no intention of upgrading my phone that year but after hearing that bomb-shell (at least to me) I ended jumping onto the online store as soon as it went live to order an 11 Pro Max for delivery on release day.
It's always been like this. They throw crap against the wall for next year's iphone and hope it sticks. And then give themselves credit when it does. Constant yearly mud thrown is small/no notch, USB-C, 120hz, onscreen finger print, etc.
I think we’re definitely looking at a 12S in 2021. Classic S year; (mostly) refinements to a previous year’s re-design.
But I strongly doubt the non-Pro will have 120Hz, and it might not have mmWave.
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Can’t really say I’m disappointed as I skipping this year anyway regardless of what they do. Paid cash for my Pro Max 11 and I’m enjoying owning my phone outright for the first time. Will buy my phones this way from now on every other year. I’m tired of paying Apple every year for modest upgrades just to have the latest model. The 11 is still a great phone.
Honestly, wtf. Another year to get something crappy androids have had since earlier THIS YEAR. I’m cool with my 11 pro. You’re not getting laptop money from me this year, Apple.
what weight exactly? More like influence for consumer purchases - he doesn’t affect R&D or production decisions of any company.
personal preference. I loath Face ID but I require the best available camera. The rest of my family also hates Face ID and requested the iPhone SE 2020 immediately. I hated it before masks but that’s made it even worse. I drive a lot and I don’t like having to pic up the phone and look at it just to unlock it. I also hate the social perception that I’m checking texts or something when I’m just trying to unlock it to use Apple Pay.
But supposedly the less efficient Android mobiles have figured out this issue long back with solutions Apple patented LPTO, IGZO, bigger batteries etc....ASUS ROG III almost 70% more battery than iPhone 11 Pro Max with the weight difference of 20 gms (10% heavier than 11Pro Max)....Apple is trying to milk the maximum from their customers with very slow incremental upgrades....you can easily skip 4 generation of iPhones
Just a wish list:
- Sized exactly like the first SE for those of use who do not like to carry around a mini ipad-like phone.
- Touch-ID and maybe Face-ID
- True LED (no LCD).
- Way more rugged design, no glass or other breakable enclosure materials - why else do people put their iPhones into protection cases?
- At least 3 day use with one charge. Mis those days when my old Nokia lasted 2 weeks on one charge while traveling, today you'd hardly get one day.
Yep impressive phone...ticks all the android spec boxes and out specs more expensive android phones. But bigger and heavier (and expensive as well) than I’m guessing many would want. And if one is into android gaming seems like it’s the goto phone. (Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong will a massive battery (and a heavy phone) that is needed to power your 120/144 mhz display, if that is what your customer base is asking for)
But, personally, I’ll stick with the apple ecosystem experience.
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