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iPhone 13 Lineup Rumored to Feature 120Hz ProMotion Displays, No iPhone SE 3 Until 2022
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Actually I have every right to do so sorry
We have a year to go and here we are with rumors about the iPhone 13 model.
A waste of good front page article space.
A waste of good front page article space.
Don't care about the refresh rate wars or 5G at all, as the infrastructure is nowhere near ready here.
Was considering this years 5.4 to replace my SE 1. Gen, now I might just soldier on, if the device lasts another year and wait for the rumoured 13 5.4 with the betetr camera and integrated Touch (ID?) technology.
Was considering this years 5.4 to replace my SE 1. Gen, now I might just soldier on, if the device lasts another year and wait for the rumoured 13 5.4 with the betetr camera and integrated Touch (ID?) technology.
Hopefully when the iPhone 13 comes out we will see more use of the LiDar sensor from developers. For my job, I'd love to just walk into a building and scan and produce floor plans by panning my phone effortlessly. You can do it with the phone right now but it still requires much more time than I like to spend. Matterport cameras are more accurate, but are big, bulky and require a subscription and the upfront cost is expensive.
Excuse me? I was talking specifically about the pro model model flagship phones which the masses generally aren't buying they buy they mostly lower tier phones or don't know anything about phones and just want the most expensive one because they want to perceived best phone for status and they can afford it or at least pretend they can afford it and do without other things. I already stated I'm not buying a pro model iPhone without a high refresh display in a post so ya I won't, but thanks for the suggestion. I don't care what anyone says, a company's FLAGSHIP smart phone should have a high refresh rate screen in 2020. The lower tier regular iPhone 12 phones could understandably still be at 60hz as they are more mass and lower priced.
He knows enough that I consider him an expert. He's uses multiple different devices on the regular that he can compare what he pros and cons about certain devices and that is his expertise.
He's going to make errors on things tech is complex. He still knows enough and a lot more than most people. I'm never said he's right about everything but he's definitely someone I consider a tech expert in general. But you can make you're own decision on that. I'm not going out and buying something solely based on his reviews either but they are helpful.
Steve definitely knew that developers drive adoption of new tech. And there is definitely something to be said for lacking a critical mass to drive development with only "hobby" features. If Apple were really trying to drive a revolution in Augmented Reality, they would indeed be putting the LiDAR scanner in as many products as they could across the various lines. But even Steve's Apple did have a few of its own "hobbies" that were a bit too ahead of their time for mass adoption. The Newton comes to mind. If they really want to change AR, they need to do more with the LiDAR then restrict it to Pro Max models.
Higher speeds obviously give smoother scrolling. But this is more noticeable on larger screens; so particularly beneficial on iPads. I don’t expect there’s much (any) benefit to other use cases, from non-scrolling apps, to videos and games; as they don’t refresh the whole screen that fast anyway.
I guess with the phablets now being the size of mini iPads; there‘s an argument that it starts to be useful on them.
Ask “the masses”?
I expect the reply to simply be “bigger number good” or “must be faster”. I very much doubt most would even consider the possibility of there being any related considerations to accommodate / overcome; be it price/availability, energy/battery, size/weight...
Well said!
This isn't rumour. This is pure speculation... why not grab a crystal ball and tell us what you think the iPhone 20 will do?
Must be a VERY slow news day - or looking for something to say beside Trump + COVID...
Well... when you have worked with your hands to the point your finger prints are mostly gone, Face ID is pretty sweet. But both would be great. Face ID solved a big problem for me.
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TouchID is also a pain to use with sweaty hands. It’s nearly impossible for me to unlock my phone when I’m running or working out. I can’t wait to get an iPhone with FaceID.
Face ID is more expensive?
Frankly they should return the Touch ID to all models (under the screen / in the power button / on the back of the device), because using the phone while wearing a mask became a sophisticated torture with Face ID.
Having both is the best idea now.
I have a feeling the iPhone 12 will be disappointing this year. I do not care about LIDAR, it's just a gimmick that I don't use on the 2020 iPad. I don't care about 5G either. By the time it arrives in my country, we will have iPhone 15.
Just upgraded from the iPhone X to the 11 Pro Max + Smart Battery Case due to low battery life and the phone lasts 3 days with a single charge. The leaked battery capacity suggests it will be lower on the 2020 iPhones and I don't care about apps opening up 10% faster.
Skipping this year for sure. 2021 better have an actual redesign.
Just upgraded from the iPhone X to the 11 Pro Max + Smart Battery Case due to low battery life and the phone lasts 3 days with a single charge. The leaked battery capacity suggests it will be lower on the 2020 iPhones and I don't care about apps opening up 10% faster.
Skipping this year for sure. 2021 better have an actual redesign.
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I agree about the LIDAR. Too bad about your 5G situation! I bought a T Mobile REVVL 5G phone, burned some CC point, to get a handle on the speed and wow am I impressed WHEN YOU GET THE SIGNAL. No MM wave here, but the lower band really works. Not sure what I’m going to do, I have an 11 pro max now. 7 iPhones in a row, this may be the year I wait…
Except that tech enthusiasts have never really been representative of the general consumer sentiment, at least where Apple products are concerned.He's the top tech reviewer on YouTube and been doing since he was 12 or 13? He's also interviewed top tech executives like Craig F, Gates, Musk, Mark Z and you don't think he has any expertise on tech?
I think most tech enthusiast would agree not having a high refresh rate screen on a flagship phone in 2020 is a pretty big miss. Unless you have an Apple bias and then it's ok.
It's one thing to compare spec for spec. What I see lacking is an analysis on how these features contribute towards the end user experience, and there is also this annoying tendency for "pundits" to first cover an industry, then they attempt to draw a link to Apple from time to time. I feel this tends to lead to error and inaccurate analysis, because you are comparing Apple too much to other companies, and you are not allowing Apple’s unique attributes to speak for themselves or recognise how Apple is able to set themselves apart from the competition.
The best way of covering Apple is to begin with Apple. You have to focus with Apple, and then you move outwards. You start with Apple, and then you analyse the industry that Apple operates in. Instead, what I see a lot of people still do today is that they just treat Apple as any other company. But Apple does a lot of things differently, and if all you are doing is simply comparing Apple to everyone else and then go “Hey, Apple isn’t following what everyone else is doing, so I don’t think whatever Apple is doing is going to work”, I think they go down the wrong path.
So yeah, maybe the next iPhone will be released without a high-refresh display, the tech reviewers will get their 15 minutes under the sun moaning about how it's missing while other android devices have had it for a year now...
They did the same for the iPhone 11 and its 326 PPI display, and as it turns out, nobody cared.
I'll be happy with the SE3 if its the same at the current SE just with updated internals and with 4gb ram.
iPhone SE 3 will be the interesting one to watch.
Probably cost. The target SE price point is $399. With Apple keeping the flagship chip in it, other more costly parts probably gotta go (FaceID).
Probably cost. The target SE price point is $399. With Apple keeping the flagship chip in it, other more costly parts probably gotta go (FaceID).
Every new iPhone is targeted towards those on 2 generations or older, not the previous gen users. Obviously 11 Pro owners won’t feel as huge of a jump in improvements. But consider iPhone X/8/7/6S users. They’ll get a completely new design iPhone with well-tested features and vastly improved battery life.
I do agree 5G, for me, is a gimmick at this point. In my country, carriers are just starting to support VoLTE on extreme few devices. We will have iPhone 17 when 5G is widely available here.
Im sorry, but the above is hyperbole. I will concede the sales of lower prices phones will outnumber higher prices phones, but apple will sell a boatload of the higher prices phones. And you can’t possibly know why tens of millions of apple customers buy their phones.
I’ve already said the “tech enthusiast “ might skip these phones, but imo, the masses won’t care. And your opinion of what should constitute a “flagship” phone is your opinion, I give you that. Others might have a different opinion.
History is about to repeat itself.
Unacceptable lol. I’m sure the techtubers will have a nice payday from the outrage vids; good for them. And Apple will sell their 200 million iPhones.
The universe stays in balance 🙂
way to kill sales before a model is even officially announced right?!!!