They did this with the mini, making people wait for the presumably lower profit phone to launch.
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iPhone 14 Plus Sales 'Lower Than Expected' Following Launch Last Week
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Are we still taking this as fact? Every year it's the same cycle of "weak demand for non pro phones" and then by Christmas it's the best sales ever. I suppose if they public's it every year eventually the economy will sufficiently correct to make their predictions right for once. Then they can predict it again for another 10 years while being wrong.
All these headlines are so relative. What was your expectation. You could expect 5B units, but that's unreasonable. How many did it actually sell? Just like backorders. Is it because demand is truly high, or are you purposely constraining supply to make it seem that way. Of course Apple wants the low end to fail so they can get more $$$ Pros
Along with you can't get blood from a stone. People can barely afford needs, especially outside USA
But the thing is, profit is what matters. How does each one cost to make compared to sale price? With how little was changed with 14, they could be getting more profit from it. Pros are constant R&D
The other disadvantage to choices is that after years they still have no clue Pros sell way more, and they don't balance production right, so you can get any combo for regular 14s instantly, but Pros are still backordered a month
The problem with the iPhone naming is that they sound like condom sizes.
Nobody goes into a pharmacy and asks for a mini size.
Everyone going to ask for the Max size even when that’s not what they needed.
Actually maybe condom size names are a clever way to make people buy the Max???
Nobody goes into a pharmacy and asks for a mini size.
Everyone going to ask for the Max size even when that’s not what they needed.
Actually maybe condom size names are a clever way to make people buy the Max???
Daddy Tim, if it was $100 cheaper would've fared much better. Made much worse with exorbitant international pricing.
as it is, $200 less for:
1 less camera,
no dynamic island,
less gen processor
no ProMotion
...adds up to not a great value for me next to a 14PM.
Just like how I think 13 mini would've fared better last year, if it was also at least $100 cheaper. Now that it is, it's also stigmatized as 'last gen' even though it can compete with iPhone 14 and 14 Plus with its SoC.
But the 'cheap' (but really not that cheap) phablet is now on the chopping block because of bad price points and in product cannibalization.
Dont tell that to anyone just staring at a spreadsheet though! They're convinced otherwise.
as it is, $200 less for:
1 less camera,
no dynamic island,
less gen processor
no ProMotion
...adds up to not a great value for me next to a 14PM.
Just like how I think 13 mini would've fared better last year, if it was also at least $100 cheaper. Now that it is, it's also stigmatized as 'last gen' even though it can compete with iPhone 14 and 14 Plus with its SoC.
But the 'cheap' (but really not that cheap) phablet is now on the chopping block because of bad price points and in product cannibalization.
Dont tell that to anyone just staring at a spreadsheet though! They're convinced otherwise.
Maybe people are realizing that GIANT FREAKING PHONES are not all that usable for many. They don't fit in pockets or hands very well. Not to mention they're also REALLY FREAKING EXPENSIVE to own and repair.
Remember 20 years ago when the expensive, premium phones were smaller and thinner than the regular phones? Why can't we get back to that? Sony Ericsson T700, Motorola RAZR, Nokia 8110, etc.
It’s plain and simple. First of all even in US prices of 14 and 14 plus are outrageous….. don’t even bother to look their prices in Europe. More than tragic. Secondly it’s called milking because they didn’t use their latest cpu chip on these phones and also their latest Samsung screens. Dynamic island and better cameras weren’t enough for them…. they wanted more features exclusive to their pro line. They ve become more greedy and arrogant than ever. They are still selling an iPhone pro max with just only 128gb of storage at that sky rocketing price…..
Other than the one I purchased on release day, I saw my first ever iPhone 14 Pro in Tokyo yesterday. Really weird not seeing all the youngsters on the Yamanote line wielding the latest iPhone, which usually looks like a fashion parade of newly minted iPhones starting October.
And most of the kids at my school and their parents this year decided to hang on to their iPhone 11s and 12s and a few 13s... This year's model seems not to be selling well over here due to the weak yen. There were waiting times, but it seems like they were "manufactured" to simulate demand since one of my contacts who works at a fairly major electronics shop in Akihabara said they were only given 5 (yes, five) iPhone Pro Maxes to sell when last year they received nearly 50 iPhone 13 Pro Maxes.
I think the 70% price rise over the 11 series is finally starting to dampen even the Japanese's passion for the latest and "greatest"
And most of the kids at my school and their parents this year decided to hang on to their iPhone 11s and 12s and a few 13s... This year's model seems not to be selling well over here due to the weak yen. There were waiting times, but it seems like they were "manufactured" to simulate demand since one of my contacts who works at a fairly major electronics shop in Akihabara said they were only given 5 (yes, five) iPhone Pro Maxes to sell when last year they received nearly 50 iPhone 13 Pro Maxes.
I think the 70% price rise over the 11 series is finally starting to dampen even the Japanese's passion for the latest and "greatest"
It’s about each consumer determining their own price to value ratio. Those who think the phone is too expensive for the features will pass; those who think otherwise will buy.
If you think apple has become greedy and arrogant, then there are choices to be made. Thankfully there is competition.
1000% Agree! Also add in the fact that the 13 still has a sim tray. I consider myself a tech nerd and it took 2 days for my carrier to switch over my physical sim to an esim. To a lot of consumers being able to pop out a sim and put into a new phone was super easy and required no assistance from carrier.
Our family went from 2 12 Pros and a 12 Mini to 2 14 Pros and a 13. I couldn't justify getting the teenager a 14 when there was nothing about the 14 that would have made a difference to them. Got the 13 in Midnight, outside of the sim tray you can't tell its not a 14. Atleast between the 12 and 13 they changed the camera oreintation and notch size so you could tell it was different.
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Outrageous? The price of the 128GB iPhone 14 is the same as the price of the iPhone 12 was at launch with half (64GB) storage.
The 14 is $50 cheaper than the 12 was at launch with equal storage.
The larger 14 Plus is only $50 more than the regular 12 was at launch with equal storage.
I don't see any of this as Apple milking customers.
I have looked at prices in Europe and they are higher primarily if not entirely because of the exchange rate. I don't see this as Apple milking customers.
Apple is selling the 128GB 14 Pro Max with all of those new features for the same price they had sold the XS Max with half (64GB) the storage back in 2018. I don’t see this as Apple milking customers.
I definitely don’t like the esim only either. I’m forced to use it in my 14 pro, but if it had a tray, I would have just popped in my physical sim from my Xs. Funny enough the same sim that came preinstalled in my iPhone 5 in 2012. It felt almost wrong not putting that sim into my new phone as I’ve done for my past few iPhones during setup.
For $200 the camera is worth the difference to get the 14PM. And even more so the smaller 14 Pro for just $100 more. The price gap is too small. The 14+ should have been $50 less, perhaps $799 iPhone 14, $849, iPhone 14+. At, $849, optically, I think it would sell better.
Agreed. I don't think Apple is ripping anyone off. The current price gaps are off.