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I am actually quite pleased going from the 13 Pro to the 14 Pro. Whereas by now (late afternoon) on the 13 Pro, I'd be around 10%, right now I am at 47% - I did turn off the always on display. Somewhat similar results with the Apple Watch 8 vs 7. I'd be around 50% on the Watch now, but I am at 70%. This is after 11 hours of wearing the watch and having the phone unplugged.

It has improved after the first two days when I believe there must've be "optimizing" going on.
 
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I appear to have solved my own issue of very high battery usage while idle on a 14 Pro... for anyone with an Apple Watch... this is worth a shot. I have a Series 4... I unpaired the watch, then set it up again as "New". Almost no battery drain while idle, as you'd expect, and normal battery usage otherwise.
 
I appear to have solved my own issue of very high battery usage while idle on a 14 Pro... for anyone with an Apple Watch... this is worth a shot. I have a Series 4... I unpaired the watch, then set it up again as "New". Almost no battery drain while idle, as you'd expect, and normal battery usage otherwise.
This is after setting up the watch initially with the iPhone 14pro? Because I’m on the same boat, except I have a series 6.
 
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I’ve had the Pro Max for a few days now, but the first days weren’t really measurable.

Yesterday was my first real comparison against my iPhone 12 Pro, typically this same usage would’ve left me with about 15-25% on that phone. Ending the night at 50% is pretty darn good.
 
My 24h results are:
Charged to 76%
24h later at 42%

Screen active 1 hour 33 minutes. Screen idle 1 hour 55 minutes.

No 5g, no AOD in use, no widgets. Somehow doesn't seem great.
 
My 24h results are:
Charged to 76%
24h later at 42%

Screen active 1 hour 33 minutes. Screen idle 1 hour 55 minutes.

No 5g, no AOD in use, no widgets. Somehow doesn't seem great.
It might not seem great, however your phone lasted 24 hours with only 34%. That's aprox. 0,7%/h. Which doesn't seem that bad.

I started the day at 83% (7.44), and now at 22.10 its at 30%. Thats 53% battery used in just short of 15 hours. That turns out to be aprox. 3,5%/h.

In return I got 3 hours 15 minutes of On screen time and, 1 hour 29min of Off Screen, with almost 5 hours of Music (4G+Bluetooth (AirPods Pro)), my daily commute to work and back, phone calls, messaging, etc.

All in all, I don't think its that bad, might not seem like it, but don't forget you only used 34% of your battery, about one third. If you were to start off from 100%, you could see those numbers multiplied by three.

However, I must add that I wiped my iPhone and installed a fresh copy of iOS 16.0.1 from my Mac, and throughout the whole day AoD was off.

In my case, I got through the day with 50%, which I consider pretty good. With a full charge I'd be able to get through 2 working days.

But the weekend is coming up, that means more use. Obviously at work I'm only listening to music, checking my email, occasional messaging, eyeing the forums, few phone calls, taking some photos and maybe watching some YouTube during my break.

I wouldn't worry too much. I realized that we're not starting our day at 100%, and when you see 30, 40% it feels like you've dropped from it, but thats not the case.

Try using your phone more to see how much more you can get, and if you're still not content, you have two options (IMO): 1. Wipe it and reinstall iOS 16.0.1, or 2. Wait till 16.1 rolls out.
 

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Mine seems ok to me 14 Pro 256Gb, was on charge for a few mins this evening while I did the 16.0.2 update.
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The problem is the new phones also drain when NOT in use.

All the screen on time how-long-can-I-watch-youtube videos and benchmarks mean nothing at all, real world usage (with standby times) count.
 
Mine seems ok to me 14 Pro 256Gb, was on charge for a few mins this evening while I did the 16.0.2 update.
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This is more like I’d expect. The vast majority of results uploaded here have been horrible, I get more on a 6s on iOS 10, and my Xʀ on iOS 12 blows the vast majority of these Pro Max numbers out of the water with heavy camera use and high brightness.

I don’t know whether people use it way too heavily, if I use it too lightly, or if there’s an issue, but the overall MacRumors numbers reported for, say, the 6s Plus back on iOS 9 were way higher that this. 4-5 hours 100-30%, 100-25%? My 6s on iOS 10 with 64% health and light use gets more than that. Yeah, light use, but it’s a 6s… and like I said, the 6s’ numbers back in 2015 with the same heavier, mixed usage are overall better than this.

I get 25 hours of screen-on time with light use on my iPad Air 5, if the Pro Max’s Apple-reported numbers are similar, then under heavy use we should be seeing at least 10-12.
 
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This is more like I’d expect. The vast majority of results uploaded here have been horrible, I get more on a 6s on iOS 10, and my Xʀ on iOS 12 blows the vast majority of these Pro Max numbers out of the water with heavy camera use and high brightness.

I don’t know whether people use it way too heavily, if I use it too lightly, or if there’s an issue, but the overall MacRumors numbers reported for, say, the 6s Plus back on iOS 9 were way higher that this. 4-5 hours 100-30%, 100-25%? My 6s on iOS 10 with 64% health and light use gets more than that. Yeah, light use, but it’s a 6s… and like I said, the 6s’ numbers back in 2015 with the same heavier, mixed usage are overall better than this.

I get 25 hours of screen-on time with light use on my iPad Air 5, if the Pro Max’s Apple-reported numbers are similar, then under heavy use we should be seeing at least 10-12.
I’m a very heavy user, some days I don’t put it down. The battery has not been as good today as it’s been since I had it, maybe iOS 16.0.2 isn’t as great on battery as the 16.0.1 was, it’s 17:30 now and I’m on 27%.
 
I’m a very heavy user, some days I don’t put it down. The battery has not been as good today as it’s been since I had it, maybe iOS 16.0.2 isn’t as great on battery as the 16.0.1 was, it’s 17:30 now and I’m on 27%.
I don’t mean heavily in time, I mean it in tasks. I can use my iPad 14 hours in one day, but I use it for light web browsing and reading at low brightness, so it’ll have like 40% after that. My iPad is new and I haven’t tested it much yet; to give an example of something I have tested, my iPhone Xʀ has 50% remaining after about 7.5-8.5 hours of screen-on time. I’ve reached that number consistently, so I know it is reachable.

I’ve used my Xʀ strictly for camera purposes, and I’ve had about 5.5 hours on 50% remaining, with the vast majority of the usage being camera and higher brightness (say, 75%). As good as the Xʀ is on iOS 12, I’d expect a Pro Max to almost double that, so about 13 hours on 50% with very light use, and maybe 7 hours at least with heavy, camera-centric use. I am not seeing that here, barring some decent results like yours, and a Pro Max that got about 15 hours earlier.

How many hours of screen-on time have you got today?
 
I don’t mean heavily in time, I mean it in tasks. I can use my iPad 14 hours in one day, but I use it for light web browsing and reading at low brightness, so it’ll have like 40% after that. My iPad is new and I haven’t tested it much yet; to give an example of something I have tested, my iPhone Xʀ has 50% remaining after about 7.5-8.5 hours of screen-on time. I’ve reached that number consistently, so I know it is reachable.

I’ve used my Xʀ strictly for camera purposes, and I’ve had about 5.5 hours on 50% remaining, with the vast majority of the usage being camera and higher brightness (say, 75%). As good as the Xʀ is on iOS 12, I’d expect a Pro Max to almost double that, so about 13 hours on 50% with very light use, and maybe 7 hours at least with heavy, camera-centric use. I am not seeing that here, barring some decent results like yours, and a Pro Max that got about 15 hours earlier.

How many hours of screen-on time have you got today?
Just over 10 hours but some of that was from yesterday before it was put on charge for the night.
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Just over 10 hours but some of that was from yesterday before it was put on charge for the night.
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Yeah, if I subtract the screen-on time previous to unplugging, you got about 6.5 hours 100-25%. Not as low as others, still lower than I’d expect. That’s only a couple of hours better than my 6s on iOS 10 with light use and full LTE.
 
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I find the battery life on these pro phones attrocious! Coming for a 13 pro that would last me through the day easily, I can barely make it till 4pm before getting a low battery warning. AOD off and I’m not even doing anything beyond email, web, music, YouTube. I’ve turned off the battery % since it stresses me out seeing numbers dropping so quickly during use.

This is absolutely crazy…
16.0.1 was bad so I upgraded to 16.1 beta which seems equally terrible.
 
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