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What are people doing on their phones that requires all of this CPU power and RAM?
computational photography / video and gaming. As these use cases gain more capability, they will use as much RAM and CPU capability that you throw at them.
 
Comparing smartphone specs like RAM is kind of silly. Obviously there is a difference between 1GB and 8GB, but iPhones have had less RAM than their Android counterparts for years now and still outperformed them by a large margin in day to day usage.
Blind Apple fans as usual. They are tons of YouTube videos showing how more rams help. Apple apps keep having to reload where Android doesn't because of RAM. Sorry but Apple can't beat physics. How is having less RAM being able to hold more data vs the counterpart? What you are talking about is cpu speed. Ram is used for memory.
 
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I'm glad they're doing this, I really don't think its necessary, unless its needed for some much higher res image processing or something. But more ram just means that developers won't be as cautious.
 
More RAM is good but I haven't felt the need for more RAM in quite a while. maybe since iPhone X. I'll shoot fixed automotive Youtube how-to videos with my 13 Pro Max and it'll be recording for an hour and nothing feels sluggish about the phone even with 4K 60FPS HEVC recording then uploading to iCloud and moving between apps. I don't play games but the iPhone feels like it has plenty of ram.
Definitely needs more RAM, my 12 Pro is very inconsistent with how quickly apps get purged from memory—some apps reset just moving back and forth between two apps, which is incredibly annoying if you're copying text, etc.
 
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Definitely needs more RAM, my 12 Pro is very inconsistent with how quickly apps get purged from memory—some apps reset just moving back and forth between two apps, which is incredibly annoying if you're copying text, etc.
When i first got my M1 Ipad 11", things would stay in memory for pretty much forever.
Now it re-loads just switching between safari and PDF readers and other basic apps. I swear even my Air 2 didnt refresh this badly. Havent updated the iOS either so it cant be that.

Maybe M2 ipad pro coming soon !! /s
 
I am very happy with the amount of RAM on my 13 pro. I've never had an issue. In fact, the last iPhone where I remember having RAM issues was my old iPhone 6, which was crippled with 1 GB from the beginning.

Agreed, but the way I see it, Apple is giving the RAM because you're going to need it. Their software has been getting very, very sloppy the past few years, and throwing more RAM at inefficient code is easier than cleaning up the code. This is doubly good from Apple's point of view because it will make older phones with less RAM obsolete faster.
 
This explains why Android needs more RAM. It is quite interesting.

That video is incomplete. Doesn't cover more RAM usage for split screen multitasking, background multitasking, DeX, etc. Things iPhone can't do. It'll probably be like the iPad Pro M1 when it launched and the extra RAM won't be utilized until iOS and apps have been updated to take advantage of it.
 
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Doubtful Apple will add more Ram just to catch up with Samsung
Only reason for more Ram would be a new function to the iPhone which has so far not been mentioned in the leaks
 
This would fit the pattern starting with the 7 Plus where the max RAM increases every 2 years.

This is a future proofing thing too. The latest iPhone usually works either okay to really well regardless of the RAM amount on a given iOS version, but the older ones are a different story.

The camera does seem to be one of the biggest RAM users, so it would probably make sense with the rumored 48MP camera. And perhaps future updates will have features that take advantage of it as well.
 
I wish they'd make smaller iOS devices again and segment the lineup even further towards those that want to pay for and tote around the huge heavy devices for the awesome cameras.

Tech has gotten to the point where we could have small thin phones and still have a great single lens camera on there for those of us who don't need to try to replace a Leica with our phone.

I need "a camera" -- but not something trying to use computational wizardry to give near SLR results (usually of kids drooling on food or pushing a plastic cart around)
 
Pill / dot cut out looks nice and clean to me vs. ugly notch so hopefully we get that. The camera bump never bothered me and didn't expect them to eliminate it but if they do to match S22 then cool.

Smaller bezels would be welcome and more realistically they need to matte finish the sides of the phone.
 
I remember when Apple didn't publish specs, didn't get into a spec-flexing war, and noone really cared.
As an owner of the first iPad Air I guarantee you some of us cared. We really cared when you couldn’t switch between Safari tabs without them reloading.
 
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With iPhones approaching PS4 levels of power, and Unreal Engine 5 games releasing on iOS, I'm sure games will easily use all 4GB of RAM that iPhone 13s have. 8GB is good
Still smaller apps that are not in RAM open almost as instantly outside of RAM as from it so it hardly matters much. Only reason is to quickly switch between camera, games and perhaps Facetime calls but those are in PiP mode anyway and I’ve never noticed a performance hit from them.
 
HP produced a dockable Windows phone. It had some compromises but generally worked. The phone itself had good specs for the time and was well made. No one bought it. Of course, that may be because it was a Windows phone! But I wonder how much demand there is for this convergence.
Yes but it was not full fledged Windows. Its downfall was the software needed to be made specifically for it. Considering all Apple computers will now be running off their own Silicone, theoretically you could have an iPhone running ios, dock it to an HDMI monitor and it transitions into full fledged MacOS. All new software will be made to work with Apple silicone chips for MacOS so there should be no growing pains like there was with previous attempts to do this. I actually think this is Apple’s end goal in the transition away from Intel. Create the app ecosystem over several years using MacOS for Apple silicone, then converge iOS, ipadOS and MacOS into essentially the same software. Phones are so powerful now days, for the majority of people they could easily be the core brain for whatever type of computing you wish to do.
 
"Matching galaxy s22" is so irrelevant. It's exactly this kind of tabular spec by spec comparison that leads people to buy the wrong thing.

There was a time when clock speed, ram, and milliamp hours were kind of comparable and relevant to real world perf across makers, but it's far from the case anymore. Now manufacturers are pulling all kinds of efficiency tricks to eek the most out of hardware. You'll get better battery life with a lower clock speed and more purpose-built cores, or better multitasking with less ram that is quicker etc etc.

Still interesting that they're adding ram, but a useless point to compare that some other phone.
 
These types of headlines are setting members up for heated arguments when it comes to ‘Apple and Samsung has something more over the other….’

The Consumer likely doesn’t care about Ram and probably doesn’t punderstand what it is. It comes down to the choice of the platform of what you want, iOS or android. From my standpoint, they’re both excellent in their own rights, and the hardware is great on both of these phones, you just have to choose what’s right for you.
 
Great, so does that mean it won't do that fake backgrounding crap and reload all my apps? Based on the 16gb iPad Pros still reloading stuff I'd say that would be a solid no. Heck Samsung phones from 10 years ago didn't do this.
 
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iPhones need to stop using PWM technology.

(Rapidly turning the backlight on and off to control brightness is bad for eyes and leads to eye strain and headaches.)

That would be one excellent way to differentiate themselves from Samsung phones.

THIS would be a significant upgrade for me, iPhones and iPads will never be good reading devices until then. Would love to ditch my Kindle, but I guess I'm stuck with it for a few more years.
 
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I remember when Apple didn't publish specs, didn't get into a spec-flexing war, and noone really cared.
Apple never has and still doesn't publish RAM specs for iPhones and iPads, but there has always been speculation about how much RAM will be in the next iPhone/iPad which isn't confirmed until they are released and someone like iFixit can do a teardown.
 
It may match on the spec sheet, but the iPhone 14's A16 will blow away the Galaxy S22.
To be fair an iPhone 7 still probably blows away the Galaxy S22 in performance

Samsung phones are like those pizzas that have way too many different toppings on them for the sake of it, to the extent that the overall experience is quite unpleasant
 
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