iPhone 14 Pro Rumored to Feature 8GB RAM, Matching Galaxy S22

[JippaLippa]

… love iPhone with all my life… ?
Better love your family, kids, wife, husband , etc. not a piece of metal with melted sand inside.

*I love iPhone with part of my life.
That said, I surely love it more than SOME members of my family...

Speaking of the phone itself, I really hope they improve the ultrawide camera's sensor as it is borderline unusable on my iPhone 13.
I don't expect the same quality as the main wide angle, however the footage shot in ultrawide is super noisy, quite grainy and generally speaking lacking in detail.
No sense having it if shooting decent videos with it is almost impossible.

 

[coolfactor]

More RAM is good but I haven't felt the need for more RAM in quite a while. maybe since iPhone X. I'll shoot fixed automotive Youtube how-to videos with my 13 Pro Max and it'll be recording for an hour and nothing feels sluggish about the phone even with 4K 60FPS HEVC recording then uploading to iCloud and moving between apps. I don't play games but the iPhone feels like it has plenty of ram.

More RAM is not good in every way. Developers are lazy. If they are not forced to optimize because they have lots of "breathing room", they will not optimize, and the result is bloated apps that require more RAM, so then it's an endless cycle of needing more, more more...

I've appreciated that Apple has kept a tidy ship in that regard. iOS does an amazing job with resource management these days.

 

[sparky1499]

All they need to add is a 3.5 mm headphone jack with advanced support for high-impedance headphones. And customers will finally be able to listen to Apple Music lossless ;-)

I use the Apple Lightning to 3.5mm dongle with various IEMs and I’m very happy with it.

Apple Lossless is a brilliant way to have CD (Red Book) quality wherever you go…

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

More RAM is good but I haven't felt the need for more RAM in quite a while. maybe since iPhone X. I'll shoot fixed automotive Youtube how-to videos with my 13 Pro Max and it'll be recording for an hour and nothing feels sluggish about the phone even with 4K 60FPS HEVC recording then uploading to iCloud and moving between apps. I don't play games but the iPhone feels like it has plenty of ram.

Keep in mind, 8GB of RAM is trivially cheap. Unless you're paying for it at Apple's retail prices, of course.

 

[44267547]

This iphone14 will sell regardless of what Kind of Ram they put in

Well, of course. So will a Galaxy phone. But that’s not the point of the article. It’s Apple allegedly having to incorporate more Ram, probably to make way for camera enhancements.

 

[Dark_Omen]

Apple is mostly just out of ideas

There’s no reason to even be pushing out all “new” phones every year …. Other than profit motive

I’d like to see an overhaul of iOS honestly. Give it a visual overhaul and rethink the functionality.

 

[Zwhaler]

I'm stoked about the 14 Pro. I'm a long time Android user and it's always way more interesting when Apple updates the designs on their phones (in a meaningful way, which now only happens every couple years).

 

[Abazigal]

Apple is mostly just out of ideas

There’s no reason to even be pushing out all “new” phones every year …. Other than profit motive

Well, yeah, that’s the whole point. Apple’s profits show that there are plenty of people who continue to buy new iPhones every year, so why shouldn’t Apple continue to update them in a yearly fashion?

Think about it. There are, right now as we speak, over a billion active iphone users. Assuming the average user holds on to their phone for 3-4 years, and you have well over 200 million people upgrading their phones annually. Of course Apple wants to be ready with an updated model every year, to keep them as iphone users.

 

[perplx]

Keep in mind, 8GB of RAM is trivially cheap. Unless you're paying for it at Apple's retail prices, of course.

Ram is cheap but also sucks up power, build cost is just one reason apple is stingy with it.

 

[Flood4]

So Apple will ship the same amount of ram for their MBA and iPhone 14 pro.
?

 

[EugW]

Of course it is!! But the 2009 MB came with 2GB, it was too low ram too quickly, the equivalent to your 8gb, how long do you think would be enough?? And even now, check out the swap as 8gb is ok just for very low intensive task.

My point is exactly what you are saying. Apple sells computers with ram barely enough for a few years. Any mac mini M1 can last 10 years if you have 16ram, not so with 8ram.

Our 2009mbp is 13 years old and habe the same ram as your latest model! Is just nuts. People never inderstand the importance of ram and Apple takes good advantage of this. Just look how low is the base model and how expensive is to upgrade the soldered ram.

Is their true sales thing.

2 GB was definitely too little in our 2009 MacBook Pros. And then 4 GB RAM was problematic several years later, with 8 GB being noticeably better. However, 8 GB has been OK for entry level for quite some time, for mainstream consumers. It should be noted that the first 12" MacBook came with 8 GB, and that was in 2015. It's 2022 now, and I'm using a 2014 Mac mini with 8 GB RAM and my memory pressure is always green, for my business application type usage.

To put it another way, while I think the jump from 2 GB to 8 GB in these decade old machines was necessary, I don't think there will be the same need to jump 4X in the same period of time going forward. Do you really think people will need 32 GB for entry level machines in 2030? I don't. Diminishing returns.

Same goes for iPhones. 1 GB was a problem after not too long. 2 GB was much better but was limiting after a while. 3 GB is actually still decent several years later, and 4 GB is even better. And 6 GB is very good, and likely will remain very good for a few years.

 

[0924487]

I am very happy with the amount of RAM on my 13 pro. I've never had an issue. In fact, the last iPhone where I remember having RAM issues was my old iPhone 6, which was crippled with 1 GB from the beginning.

More RAM means less app and webpage refreshes.

 

[0924487]

So Apple will ship the same amount of ram for their MBA and iPhone 14 pro.
🤔

Well, they cost about the same, so yeah, why not?

 

[0924487]

Yes but why? Apps will still reload after 30 seconds.
Memory problems could have been solved years ago for old devices running newer iOS version by allowing a swap file on the storage chips.

SWAP is used in iOS, just go to storage and see.

 

[uller6]

More RAM means less app and webpage refreshes.

Yeah, I know that more RAM = less refreshing, to a certain point. I don't have any refreshes with the 13 Pro - my regular activity doesn't run into the RAM limits of the phone. And I haven't had refresh issues with any iPhone in years.

 

[AndiG]

The iPhone was never lagging behind, talking about the RAM. It just didn‘t need more RAM. When the iPhone 14 ships with more Megapixels it is just natural that it needs more RAM since the pictures or at least the raw pictures need a lot more memory. Image processing also needs a lot more.

not surprised …

 

[Boroughbloke]

Does it need 8GB? Or would this just an exercise in pointless me tooism?

 

[Mr.PT]

Sugar coating a price bump? Or maybe currently is more profitable feasible to make it 8GB than 6GB. Although Camera image computing, seems more plausible IMHO.

 

[44267547]

Does it need 8GB?

I assume you’re asking rhetorically, given we’re about seven months away from confirmation.

But does it need 8Gb? The only logical reason I could think the iPhone 14 would need 8Gb compared to what it has now, is camera requirements. Which the periscope lens was rumored for the 14, but that sounds like it’s more or less not geared until 2023 with the iPhone 15. So this rumor actually might be more in relation to 8Gb releasing at the same time when Apple announces the periscope lens, which I suspect is two years away.

 

[Danfango]

So taking 3pics 60 times a second at 8MP as iPhone does for recording 60f 4k HDR requires only 137Mb?
How so and for how long???

Ram is one of the main reason (among unrefined code) iPhone gets slower with updates and the most demanding resource for multitask (the more ram, the longer apps can be in background without autoclosing)

RAM is mostly just cache for the storage these days.

As for the background apps that’s valid but that’s pretty much an issue with the steaming piles of bloat that a lot of apps have become. I’m doing some iOS development and for a data centric app I’m not touching more than 100Mb of RAM while it’s running.

 

[IsaacM]

8GB of RAM in a phone?! Wow. Talk about overkill

iPhones are pocket computers.

The "phone" part became a side feature many, many years ago.

I only pull out my laptop when I need to write a long text file, everything else is done on my iPhone.

 

[Abazigal]

Does it need 8GB? Or would this just an exercise in pointless me tooism?

The current trend is that Apple has been focusing on camera performance as a key differentiator to sell each newer generation of iPhone, and I believe this will continue with the iphone 14.

Apple’s modus operandi has always been to rely on software optimisation to get way with including less specs in their hardware (and therefore saving on costs).

Based on this, I doubt Apple would go to the expense of including 8gb ram unless they felt it was strictly necessary to enable a particular experience in the device (all the more in a high-volume product like the iphone). While the cost of an additional 2gb of ram may be trivial, it adds up when you multiply that by the hundreds of millions of iPhones they sell every year.

 

[svish]

Increase in RAM is good. Excited to hear more rumours about iPhone 14.

 

[jouster]

Apple is mostly just out of ideas

There’s no reason to even be pushing out all “new” phones every year …. Other than profit motive

Most people do not upgrade every year and like to have an up-to-date option when they do.

And yes—everything Apple does is for profit. Profit is literally the reason they exist.

 

[Victor Mortimer]

I remember when Apple didn't publish specs, didn't get into a spec-flexing war, and noone really cared.

I remember when Apple published specs, schematics, and source code, and everyone really liked it.

The thing you think you remember? No, I don't remember that at all. No one caring about specs? DID NOT HAPPEN.