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Still don’t know how. My 14 Ro battery lasts maybe 15 hours, sometimes less if I use it a lot, or more if I barely touch it. My 12 Pro Max would last me two days.
 
If they were still doing S series models, would the 15 technically be the S or the 14/16? I think the last one was the XS right? Seems like all the updates are marginal until they go back to the rounded models in a year or two (if they ever do).
 
I won’t argue that the dimensions are pretty much the max that we should see in a phone, but the hype here over 19 grams (and that will not be confirmed until Tuesday) is ridiculous, no one will spend more time with the phone in their hands because of the weight…
And with all the complainers here about battery life, and people stacking an additional battery on their phone…
I bet they massaged the figures by weighing the phone with the battery run down to empty. Once it's fully charged all those extra electrons will surely boost the weight back up😉
 
Coming from iPhone 12 Pro, iPhone X before that - I like up upgrade at each ‘major’ refresh. I can’t quite work out if the 15 Pro qualifies, but I think the material change, the bezel change, and the move from flat to curved edges, will make this phone the new norm, from a core design perspective, for the next few years
 
I hadn’t heard about a possible curved edge design coming back. I would appreciate less weight. I kind of want to go back to a smaller screen in general but I think my aging eyes appreciate blowing up the text size on the larger model.
 
iPhone 15 Pro Max weight.

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Coming from iPhone 12 Pro, iPhone X before that - I like up upgrade at each ‘major’ refresh. I can’t quite work out if the 15 Pro qualifies, but I think the material change, the bezel change, and the move from flat to curved edges, will make this phone the new norm, from a core design perspective, for the next few years
The standard and plus phones will probably not change much over the next couple years. If the 16 Pros change next year (maybe to an under display face id) then the standard/plus won't get it until 2025.

there's a good chance that the Pros will change next year so i don't think the 15 Pro qualifes as a major change. Wait until next year if you want to jump on with a major refresh.

Usually that's what I'd do but this time I think I want to get the 15 Pro Max because it seems like it'll be the last phone with the current design. The dynamic island/pill might get smaller next year. Probably not a MAJOR change but it'll be like the notch getting shrunk between the 12 and 13.

I'm not saying the 16 will be bad but maybe in my old age I can't be bothered with any issues. Putting face id under the display could throw up some problems. So i'm thinking bout gettng the 15 PM and then upgrading once Apple has had the Face ID under the display for a couple years. Maybe I'll next upgrade again before they put the camera under the display.
 
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If they were still doing S series models, would the 15 technically be the S or the 14/16? I think the last one was the XS right? Seems like all the updates are marginal until they go back to the rounded models in a year or two (if they ever do).
If you simply count it down like the old ways then we are starting with 11 series then the 12 series would be 11S.

13 series would become the 12 series and the 14 series would become the 12S series.

So 15 should be the 13 series so 15 is a non-S series.
 
I've been using Face ID for a good three years now. I still prefer fingerprint unlock.
It is a daily nuisance for me when I wake up and don’t have my glasses on, hold the phone too close to my face, it doesn’t unlock, and I have to hold it 6 inches away, sometimes multiple attempts, so it unlocks. “You’re holding it wrong” isn’t the answer.
 
I won’t argue that the dimensions are pretty much the max that we should see in a phone, but the hype here over 19 grams (and that will not be confirmed until Tuesday) is ridiculous, no one will spend more time with the phone in their hands because of the weight…
And with all the complainers here about battery life, and people stacking an additional battery on their phone…
I certainly noticed the 20 grams difference between the 12 Pro & 13 Pro.
It's not about using it for longer, it's about the comfort and experience of use.
I've had my 13 Pro for 2 years now and it's still too heavy.....so this is a big selling point for me, although the bigger camera bump, will still preclude me from upgrading
 
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Another year of abysmal upgrades, skipping this one as well. The features are not worth the price tag for me and I currently own a 13 Pro Max.
I own a 13 Pro and I wouldn't say the new features are not worth the price tag (that's down to each individual) the upgrade is substantial vs the 13 Pro.
I still won't upgrade until the camera bump is gone though.
Never the less a very good upgrade!
 
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Coming from iPhone 12 Pro, iPhone X before that - I like up upgrade at each ‘major’ refresh. I can’t quite work out if the 15 Pro qualifies, but I think the material change, the bezel change, and the move from flat to curved edges, will make this phone the new norm, from a core design perspective, for the next few years
I’m the same and I think the major refresh is next year for sure. I’d love to get 15 Pro, but I think I can get through another year with the 12P. Still debating. A17, X70 and Pro-Motion are the big upgrades for me. I always debate Pro Max, but they’re just cartoonishly big for me and I have big hands. Periscope lens though… Apple never makes it easy. The last phone I was actually excited about was X. I think 16 could be that exciting redesign and it makes more sense to upgrade to an exciting new product instead of the ultimate refinement of what I already own. The three year super cycle itch is real though and I’ll be watching.
 
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I’m the same and I think the major refresh is next year for sure. I’d love to get 15 Pro, but I think I can get through another year with the 12P. Still debating. A17, X70 and Pro-Motion are the big upgrades for me. I always debate Pro Max, but they’re just cartoonishly big for me and I have big hands. Periscope lens though… Apple never makes it easy. The last phone I was actually excited about was X. I think 16 could be that exciting redesign and it makes more sense to upgrade to an exciting new product instead of the ultimate refinement of what I already own. The three year super cycle itch is real though and I’ll be watching.
USB-C is not enough? :eek:
 
Just as you 'BradMacPro' I also have an iPhone 12 and would like to upgrade to 15 pro (???) up until now I've been able to utilise previous iPhone charging power adapters but now I/we will have to purchase a £19/$19 charging adapter, this to me is utterly wrong. Where will it end, say we need a new shaver, electric tooth brush ECT, ECT we can't do what Apple says we can do, because the iPhone 15 only has a USBC cable in the box with the iPhone.🥴🥴

As part of our efforts to reach our environmental goals, iPhone 11 does not include a power adapter or EarPods. Included in the box is a USB‑C to Lightning cable that supports fast charging and is compatible with USB‑C power adapters and computer ports.

We encourage you to re‑use your current USB‑A to Lightning cables, power adapters, and headphones which are compatible with this iPhone. But if you need any new Apple power adapters or headphones, they are available for purchase.


Apple

Regards, Bodycalming.
But the 12 Pro came with a USB-C to a lightning, so there's no reason you can't use your current adapter 😊
 
Just as you 'BradMacPro' I also have an iPhone 12 and would like to upgrade to 15 pro (???) up until now I've been able to utilise previous iPhone charging power adapters but now I/we will have to purchase a £19/$19 charging adapter, this to me is utterly wrong. Where will it end, say we need a new shaver, electric tooth brush ECT, ECT we can't do what Apple says we can do, because the iPhone 15 only has a USBC cable in the box with the iPhone.🥴🥴

As part of our efforts to reach our environmental goals, iPhone 11 does not include a power adapter or EarPods. Included in the box is a USB‑C to Lightning cable that supports fast charging and is compatible with USB‑C power adapters and computer ports.

We encourage you to re‑use your current USB‑A to Lightning cables, power adapters, and headphones which are compatible with this iPhone. But if you need any new Apple power adapters or headphones, they are available for purchase.


Apple

Regards, Bodycalming.
Let's see if apple will include an USB-C cable. I read everywhere that now only one cable needs to be carried and that everyone has such a cable (I don't). So maybe Apple will not include it for saving some bucks ehhm I mean for the environment and climate.
 
8 Plus:
H: 158.4 mm (6.24 in)
W: 78.1 mm (3.07 in)
D: 7.5 mm (0.30 in)
M: 202 g (7.1 oz)

15 Pro Max (rumored)
H: 159.9mm (6.29 in)
W: 76.7mm (3.01 in)
D: 8.25mm (0.32 in)
M: 221g (7.79oz)

I still miss TouchID and my home button, but do like my 13PM a great deal.
The screen on the standard 15 pro is much bigger than on the 8 Plus, so comparing the 8 Plus to the 15 Pro Max is night and day!
The 15 Pro will be just as light as the 8 Plus or as near as makes no difference.
BTW, I too like my 13 Pro, but it is heavy, compared with the 15 Pro
 
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