This is disgusting. Apple doesn’t care about customers and deserves to lose even more sales so it might realise customers should not be taken for granted.
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iPhone 15 USB-C Cables Again Said to Be Limited to USB 2.0 Transfer Speeds
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even if the cables are colored, users will need to easily find a reliable cable for hign speed data transfer and/or displayport capability for certain devices.
and they dont want to sort through 30 cables to find that one cable that did it all.
EU regulations is about the environment and they should have known 2.0 cables will head to the trash sooner than 3.0 cables.
If they're going to mandate something that causes an increase demand for cables by the billions, they should at least specify a minimum spec to increase the lifetime usage of newly produced cables.
And that has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with Apple staying at crappy speeds.
Yep I feel like this hasn't got enough attention. If there's no MFi requirement then the phone should be compatible with a whole set of existing accessories out of the box.
It's also not about the cables at all. It's about the ports on the devices. And those devices includes lots of stuff that doesn't even have data capabilities. Like flashlights.
To my ears, 2.0 speeds for the new, matching cables means 2.0 speeds for mid-tier iPhones 15 ports.
I hope I’m wrong.
But as we see across Apple’s product lineups, value/$ always has to be kept low enough to easily push the consumer up to a Pro.
So in other words, really not a lot of benefits for mid-tier 15 buyers moving to a USB-C iPhone. Well, apart from finally being able to ditch the arbitrarily proprietary Lightning and use any cable from all the products you already own.
But awesome if these are MFi-free and iPhones 15 play equally well with all USB-C cables, MFi or not.
>2.0 could still be MFi locked on the Pros. But we’ll see soon. 🤞
I hope I’m wrong.
But as we see across Apple’s product lineups, value/$ always has to be kept low enough to easily push the consumer up to a Pro.
So in other words, really not a lot of benefits for mid-tier 15 buyers moving to a USB-C iPhone. Well, apart from finally being able to ditch the arbitrarily proprietary Lightning and use any cable from all the products you already own.
But awesome if these are MFi-free and iPhones 15 play equally well with all USB-C cables, MFi or not.
>2.0 could still be MFi locked on the Pros. But we’ll see soon. 🤞
Yeah exactly, and no limiting charging speeds. That would suck, as it would go against the whole point of switching to type c to begin with; MFI doesn’t currently exist on type c to type c cables so everyone would need to buy new ones, AS WELL AS chucking lightning cables
I couldn't tell you the last time I've used the iPhone cable to do anything other than charge my phone, and I do wireless charging 90% of the time. So I don't think the average user will know or care about this.
The "slow" USB-C cables will continue to function as durable charging cables for the abundance of other USB-C devices within/outside the Apple ecosystem—something Lightning is woefully incapable of. In other words, virtually no e-waste produced. Nice try, though.
I use magsafe to charge my phone at home and iCloud to sync all my data throughout my devices. When I need to transfer something specific, I use AirDrop. I don't think I ever use a cable for anything except to charge my phone when I'm traveling.
480Mbps not 480MBps (480MB/s)
480Megabits per second is 60Megabytes per second
Other than DFU/recovery, is there anyone that still uses the cable for data transfer?
I transferred via AirDrop 90GB of photos and videos from iPhone 14 Pro Max 256GB to iPhone 11 Pro Max 512GB and it took about 30 minutes to complete...
I am not sure if that is within the acceptable range based on the hardware of the two iPhones but with that convenience, I can't really say if I am greatly impacted by Apple limiting the data transfer to USB 2.0 or 480Mbps
480Megabits per second is 60Megabytes per second
Other than DFU/recovery, is there anyone that still uses the cable for data transfer?
I transferred via AirDrop 90GB of photos and videos from iPhone 14 Pro Max 256GB to iPhone 11 Pro Max 512GB and it took about 30 minutes to complete...
I am not sure if that is within the acceptable range based on the hardware of the two iPhones but with that convenience, I can't really say if I am greatly impacted by Apple limiting the data transfer to USB 2.0 or 480Mbps
Why do you think users will need those super high speed cables? How many of your friends use cables to transfer GBs of data from their phone? What's wrong with fast charging with USB 2.0? I think you overestimate the importance of data transfer.
Come off it mate. How many people do you think use a cable to transfer data from their iphone? Pretty niche use case to build a 'Don't Tread on Me' tirade around. We all already have plenty of USB C cables for all our other Apple devices, so little need to create a huge amount more and that swappabilty increase utility (the whole point) not waste.
Also: taking an anti-regulatory position and then suggesting that the EU are idiots for not adding sufficient nuance to their regulation is a special kind of cognitive dissonance.
Tim crook never failing to disappoint.
Throttle controlling cable speeds in response to having to switch to usb-c.
Excludes charging block upon new phone purchase in a claim for helping the environment.
Taking away ACMI options for sim-less phones.
Discontinuing support for older Apple products.
Gate keeping MLS streaming rights for Apple TV only.
Using the same exact design since the iPhone 12.
Their 30% revenue sharing tax for app devs
That’s just what I can recall rn anyone wish to add to the list?
Throttle controlling cable speeds in response to having to switch to usb-c.
Excludes charging block upon new phone purchase in a claim for helping the environment.
Taking away ACMI options for sim-less phones.
Discontinuing support for older Apple products.
Gate keeping MLS streaming rights for Apple TV only.
Using the same exact design since the iPhone 12.
Their 30% revenue sharing tax for app devs
That’s just what I can recall rn anyone wish to add to the list?
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Unfortunately not. Wast majority of them is using usb-c with slow USB 2.0.Yeah but cheap Android phones still make use of decent USB 3 speeds
Sure, let's put more conditions into regulations, but then don't argue how strict EU is or how are the regulations outdated and they should demand specification XY. They gave Apple freedom of choice and Apple autonomously decided to screw customers. Shame on them, not EU.
While I agree it would be better for consumer to mandate at least 3.0 speeds at the same time it seems like rather unnecessary interference to the free market. It would definitely drive cost of the low tier phones up.
And most importantly. Everyone charges their phone, yet almost no one is using the port for data transfer. The point of the EU is not minor cases.
Anyone getting excited about USB 3.0 has low expectations. USB 3.0 is too little too late (which is what Tim Cook loves to deliver while simultaneously raising prices). Macs have had USB 3.0 since 2012. The first smartphone with USB 3.0 was the Galaxy Note 3, which was released in 2013. That was 10 years ago. Don't ever praise Cook for his greed of giving customers tech that is literally a decade old.
For the prices Cook charges, all iPhones should include at least Thunderbolt 3, preferably Thunderbolt 4.
For the prices Cook charges, all iPhones should include at least Thunderbolt 3, preferably Thunderbolt 4.
odd coincidence but ever since Steve Jobs passed Apples sense of purpose has been misdirected
As others have said, most of Apple's products have USB-C already. Apple should have brought the iPhone in line with the rest of the product portfolio years ago. There is no sincere reason for Apple keeping Lightning at this stage.
If the likely data transfer speeds of the iPhone 15 are too slow of your needs, then that is not the phone for you.
If the likely data transfer speeds of the iPhone 15 are too slow of your needs, then that is not the phone for you.
Last time I checked the year is 2023 and not 2009, so data transfer speeds through a cable are totally irrelevant except for a tiny fraction of a percent of niche users who still refuse to embrace the cloud
This would raise the price of the iPhone, and why should the vast majority of users suffer that just to placate the luddites and tinfoil hat brigade that don’t trust the cloud
As long as the charging speeds are decent, ie: equally fast or faster than current fast charging on the iPhone, then that’s all that matters with respect to the cable
This would raise the price of the iPhone, and why should the vast majority of users suffer that just to placate the luddites and tinfoil hat brigade that don’t trust the cloud
As long as the charging speeds are decent, ie: equally fast or faster than current fast charging on the iPhone, then that’s all that matters with respect to the cable
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This is because they want to differentiate the Pro line from the non-Pro line and rightfully so. There has to be a difference right. LOL.
The reason might be that the iPhone 15 is reusing the A16-based design from the 14 Pro, and they are not redesigning its USB interconnect just for higher transfer speeds. A USB-C port doesn’t magically enable higher transfer speeds by itself.
i'd be relaxed about the *cable* being USB 2 speeds only; most of them probably really will only be used for charging, so it would be an unwarranted waste.
It's another matter if the ports on the phone are similarly restricted. that would smack of malicious compliance and would frankly deserve a boycott.
(if you have another device you want to transfer data at speed *to*, you're likely to have the cables you need with that device already.)
It's another matter if the ports on the phone are similarly restricted. that would smack of malicious compliance and would frankly deserve a boycott.
(if you have another device you want to transfer data at speed *to*, you're likely to have the cables you need with that device already.)