This is to be expected from Tim Cook's Apple. Obscenely too greedy. It is appaling behaviour from a 3 trillion dollar company (if this comes to pass).
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iPhone 15 USB-C Cables Again Said to Be Limited to USB 2.0 Transfer Speeds
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You are confusing the in-box charging cable specs with the USB C/Thunderbolt port ones
I have never thrown a charging cable away unless it was broken. I put them in a drawer like a civilized adult.
I think Intel did away with the licensing fees for TB a few years ago but there is a chip requirement. My belief is because the non-pro models are going to use last year’s A-series chips they won’t have TB controllers and the New A-series chips in the pro models will.
If you would have had a Thunderbolt 40 Gbps Type-C or even a basic 10Gbps USB Type-C port, you could have completed the transfer of 90 GB in under 2 minutes. Yes 2 frikkin minutes.
90 x 1024 / 800 MBps / 60 = 1.92 minutes. 800 MBps (or 6.4 Gbps) transfer speed is supported by iPhone's internal NAND. You would also need Nvme SSD on your PC or iMac.
Slow USB data transfer is a big issue for people like me.
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But this still doesn’t explain the rational in soft locking the usb-c port / controller to lightening port speeds correct.
Hi, the article is a bit confusing about who limits who. If I get it right:
a) iPhone 15 basic (Minus) and Plus have USB-C ports limited to USB 2.0 speed, and
b) iPhone Pro have USB-C ports with USB 3.0 speed, and
c) Apple-provided cables for all models are limited to USB 2.0 speed, but
d) some Iphone 15 models (at least the Pro) can use third_part USB-C cables with USB 3.0 speed.
Is that correct? if so, sounds a bit cheap from Apple.
a) iPhone 15 basic (Minus) and Plus have USB-C ports limited to USB 2.0 speed, and
b) iPhone Pro have USB-C ports with USB 3.0 speed, and
c) Apple-provided cables for all models are limited to USB 2.0 speed, but
d) some Iphone 15 models (at least the Pro) can use third_part USB-C cables with USB 3.0 speed.
Is that correct? if so, sounds a bit cheap from Apple.
It's about time there will be a difference between the PRO models and the rest
I can honestly say that the only reason I have ever used the port, other than charging, is to connect MIDI controllers. With Wi-Fi speeds becoming what they are today, with the upcoming Wi-Fi 7 standard, why would anyone use a wire to transfer data, I honestly expected them just to remove the port.
If this somehow contributes to making the base models cheaper, or more repairable, recyclable, or for reusing existing hardware, I'm all for it
I can honestly say that the only reason I have ever used the port, other than charging, is to connect MIDI controllers. With Wi-Fi speeds becoming what they are today, with the upcoming Wi-Fi 7 standard, why would anyone use a wire to transfer data, I honestly expected them just to remove the port.
If this somehow contributes to making the base models cheaper, or more repairable, recyclable, or for reusing existing hardware, I'm all for it
Apple and cables are a #@%# story overall - at least they do braided cords today.
But for how many years did we get those immensely crappy cords?…especially the lightning, that fortunately are gone.
So hurray to braided cords 1st from Apple, with any speed 🥳
Cords are not cheap, especially good cords with quality and good speed.
THIS IS where Apple save mountains of money.
Never buy cords from Apple. Take use of the ones you get, the best you can, and buy quality cords from anywhere else that know cords.
But for how many years did we get those immensely crappy cords?…especially the lightning, that fortunately are gone.
So hurray to braided cords 1st from Apple, with any speed 🥳
Cords are not cheap, especially good cords with quality and good speed.
THIS IS where Apple save mountains of money.
Never buy cords from Apple. Take use of the ones you get, the best you can, and buy quality cords from anywhere else that know cords.
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Apple: The EU law limits innovations and creates more E-Waste!
Also Apple:
- Uses 23yo standard in their newest product
- Creates MFI certification to force people buy their cable even if the they already have other USB-C cables
Also Apple:
- Uses 23yo standard in their newest product
- Creates MFI certification to force people buy their cable even if the they already have other USB-C cables
Just use the thunderbolt cable . As for color cable that will be included in the iPhone 15 I’ll see believe it. I highly doubt that Apple will put a cable in the box. It’s trying to eliminate e-waste this is counterproductive.
The article has no insight into the ports, just the cables allegedly shipping with the devices.
For example, the iPad Pro ships with a USB-C cable, but users need to purchase a Thunderbolt cable separately for faster data transfer if needed.
9to5mac speculated that one possibility is these are iMac cables since the colors are iMac colors. They would be for new usb-c keyboard, trackpads, and mice.
This! And you forgot
- creates cables with various color options - meaning even more e-waste. Some Apple customers will buy additional cables they don't need just for the color...
Same. I use the port to charge my phone. Don't care about USB speed at all.
This says the cable is limited; it doesn't mean the port is. My included MacBook USB charging cable is USB 2, while the port is Thunderbolt 4.
I still plug-in to transfer when I have large files. Took some 10+ min 4k 60fps videos recently, and they were pushing 10gb each....way too much time to transfer wirelessly, plus I needed to copy them to a PC.
I agree that it’s become too expensive for what it is. I don’t agree that Apple could have easily integrated USB-3 speeds, unless they’d also obviate much of the difference between the Pro and the non-Pro by using the same SoC generation (which is something I would welcome, but Apple obviously won’t do), which probably would also create difficulties on the supply-chain level (less diversification). I’m not defending Apple here, I’m guessing at their technical considerations.
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No they won’t. iPhone fanatics and early adopters are buying Pro models. The average consumer that buys the standard iPhone also couldn’t care less about data transfer speeds, likely because they never transfer data via a cable.
Yup, go search for USB-C PD cables on Amazon and they’re all USB 2.0 data transfer speeds.
This exactly.
They were referencing the cables included, not the actual ports themselves. I guarantee that none of the Thunderbolt capable devices actually with a Thunderbolt cable.
The uproar by the uninformed in this thread is hysterical.
That’s sheer arrogance that continues to come up every time.
There are lots of users who use wired connections for data transfers, like Window users who own an iPhone.
Updating files, regardless of connection type, Is a personal matter.
If Apple makes the ability to use 4k media recordings on the iPhone, then allow users to use cables that use higher speeds for wired file transfers.
Just because You, & others similar to you, don’t do so does Not mean others do so as well.
Not everyone cares to buy/use online storage for media transfers.
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