I have to say, too, that the main issue I had with my 13PM was overheating when outside and using continuously (like scrolling through IG) and having the screen dim to the point of being useless outside. My 16PM is cool as a cucumber and the screen is SUPER BRIGHT the whole time (usually a couple hours enjoying the afternoon on the patio).
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iPhone 16 Pro Bug Causing Random Freezing and Restarts
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Good that you mention it. After restarting my iPhone, I'm not asked for a SIM PIN even though I have one. It only asks for the device code.
Restarted at around 2am 2 times this week. In the battery section, there is no data available between 2-6am. Manual iCloud backup seems to be having no issues. Apple support ran diagnostics and no issues reported. Similar thing happened on 15 Pro Max till .1 release if I am not wrong.
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That's easy to say.
In one possible outcome they can just nerf the 16 Pro's hardware in a software update so no more crashes.
The truth is that a 1 year upgrade cycle is far too short. All the manufacturers announce new products and release dates but for the most part you often can’t pick up the items till months afterwards. By the time I managed to get a 1tb 15 pro max in my hot little hands. The pro max had already been in existence three months. Effectively I’d only had it 9 mkt ha by the release date of the 16 pro max which you also can’t get now. Extend the release cycle. To at least 2 years. Improve testing and we and actually make the upgrades slightly more than incremental and actually make sure the products are deliverable on time.
As a result I’m skipping the upgrade cycle this time. It remains to be seen whether I’ll buy a 17 pro max either. Unless the changes are significant I’ll probably skip it.
As a result I’m skipping the upgrade cycle this time. It remains to be seen whether I’ll buy a 17 pro max either. Unless the changes are significant I’ll probably skip it.
I too think they should abandon the yearly release schedule. The upgrades are very little these days, and the software team clearly can't keep up. At least with a two-year cycle, the upgrades will be a bit more substantial, and hopefully, the software will actually be finished and a bit more polished.
Who is this embarrassing to? I’m not embarrassed. You may be embarrassed but I doubt apple, its shareholders, management, board or customers are embarrassed.
The biggest updates to iOS ever and the timeline is stretched out. Nope, this ambitious update and rollout is clearly not embarrassing.
No company gets it perfect not even SJ. Antennagate?
Tried Android for almost a year. It’s great actually. Both hw and sw. Better in many ways. The problem was the death by a thousand cuts from being so invested in the Apple ecosystem before. My network uses imessage, FaceTime. Migrating my lifetime Photos library from Apple to google was a mess, screwed up dates. Watch stopped its GSM functionality when it realized my iPhone didn’t have its phone nb active anymore. I miss continuity for copy pasting between the Mac and iPhone. Etc. etc.
Moved from a launch day 15 Pro to a launch day 16 Pro. Set up the 16 Pro via iCloud backup. Not seeing the same issues reported here. Setting up my 16 Pro from iCloud Backup this year was noticeably the most efficient to date. Usually, it takes a few days (to ~a week) before all photos and everything port over and the device stabilizes. In that first week, battery drain tends to be higher as everything is porting over. This year's install was under 2 hrs and I have experienced no discernible battery drain. Yet.
Side note: my son got his first iPhone for his 14th birthday last week. His mom's 13. She upgraded to a 15 Pro Max (LOVES it). Neither are seeing any of these reported issues.
Side note: my son got his first iPhone for his 14th birthday last week. His mom's 13. She upgraded to a 15 Pro Max (LOVES it). Neither are seeing any of these reported issues.
When I first started using my iPhone 16 Pro Max, I noticed little screen freezes periodically. It didn’t occur enough to be a hindrance.
Last night, I erased the device and started with a fresh install of iOS 18.1 dev beta 7 and then set up everything from scratch. I did not restore from a backup.
Thus far, the device is performing admirably with excellent battery life.
Last night, I erased the device and started with a fresh install of iOS 18.1 dev beta 7 and then set up everything from scratch. I did not restore from a backup.
Thus far, the device is performing admirably with excellent battery life.
No problem here with Pro Max. iCloud limited to Calendar, Notes and Contacts, Messages and Passwords. No battery issue...no freezes... It might be a specific area of icloud like Drive or something along those lines or, as has been mentioned a specific app. Happy to be bug free so far. Knock on silicon.
After a couple of days of using 18 it was obvious it wasn’t ready for public release. Been rocking 17.7 on my 15PM without any issues and tbh can’t see any reasons to ever update to 18.x.
The quality coming out of Apple at the moment is deservedly questioned. It’s become pretty poor.
The quality coming out of Apple at the moment is deservedly questioned. It’s become pretty poor.
At least SJ's Apple didn't have back-to-back Antennagates.
Remember the bricked iPad Pros and iPadOS 18 pulled altogether for them?
Kinda shudder to think of the heavy new AI layer Apple is about to put on this kind of foundation...
And there was iOS 8 bricking phones as well. But yeah iOS 18 with the ai layer will be fine.
My iPhone has just restarted again. It does this every 2 days now. I have reset it so many times. With iCloud backup without iCloud backup. Doesn't change the malfunction. To be honest, my enthusiasm and desire has increased significantly. This is ridiculous. And I assume that Apple knows nothing about the problem that we are discussing here in the forum. I am now waiting for iOS 18.1 and if the problem occurs again, I will have my iPhone exchanged until I get a fault-free one.
iphone8+ IOS 16.7.10 here.
No problems at all. Still 75% battery life, good for all day phone use. Apple says they will still give me $60 toward a new one. Looking forward to a 16 pro max in desert gold after all the problems sorted next year. Likely my last ever 8-year upgrade. 🙃
PS: If you are old enough, please vote.
No problems at all. Still 75% battery life, good for all day phone use. Apple says they will still give me $60 toward a new one. Looking forward to a 16 pro max in desert gold after all the problems sorted next year. Likely my last ever 8-year upgrade. 🙃
PS: If you are old enough, please vote.
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I have the basic iPhone 16 and have had no problems with battery or crashing.
There appears to be a bug with some iPhone 16 models that is causing random restarts, according to complaints on Reddit, the MacRumors forums, and the Apple Support Communities. Affected users are seeing their iPhones freeze unexpectedly and then reboot.
Reports about the issue have been ongoing since the iPhone 16 models first launched in September, and have continued to this week. The iOS 18.0.1 and iOS 18.1 updates do not fix the issue, as it has continued to happen to users even after installing the latest software.
The problem seems to pop up randomly. The display will stop responding or will be very slow to respond to touch input, and then the iPhone will do a quick restart. There have also been reports of the iPhone restarting unexpectedly when in StandBy mode.
Some users who contacted Apple shortly after the new iPhones launched were able to get replacement devices, but have had the issue reoccur. Almost all of the complaints are about the iPhone 16 Pro or iPhone 16 Pro Max, so it may only be the Pro models that are impacted.
For most people, the issue is sporadic, but some users have seen 10 to 20 crashes per day. In some cases, doing a fresh install and not reinstalling from an iCloud Backup seems to have fixed the problem, so it is possible that this is a bug related to iCloud.
Let us know in the comments below if you've been experiencing this freezing and crashing issue.
Article Link: iPhone 16 Pro Bug Causing Random Freezing and Restarts
There's a system stability diag that will tell Support Staff if it has a HW issue.
If it passes that test then its a SW bug
Hope its addressed soon though
If it passes that test then its a SW bug
Hope its addressed soon though
are you referring to the diagnostic that they perform online? I don’t think so.
I have a panic file but work the online diagnostic the say it’s all ok.
Pretty sure that if go to a Genius Bar they will say it something hardware related.
Exactly the same thing happened to me. I did the diagnosis, everything is fine. But just like you, I have a panic log.
Regarding the diagnostics, I’m confused. A friend of mine with the same issue had an online diagnostic that didn’t detect anything, and they attributed the problem to a software error. He went to the Genius Bar, and after analyzing the panic file, they said the phone had shut down due to a temporary error with the logic board. It’s a serious issue, so the recommendation was to replace the phone, even though it happened only once.
The Genius Bar technician based their assessment on the panic file. So if I call Apple Care and explicitly ask them to analyze my panic file, can they tell me if it’s indeed a hardware problem? I don’t want to waste time.
How can everything be so superficial and random? Over the phone, the technicians assured him that everything was fine and to wait for iOS 18.1, and they told me the same thing. I’m really pissed off!
The Genius Bar technician based their assessment on the panic file. So if I call Apple Care and explicitly ask them to analyze my panic file, can they tell me if it’s indeed a hardware problem? I don’t want to waste time.
How can everything be so superficial and random? Over the phone, the technicians assured him that everything was fine and to wait for iOS 18.1, and they told me the same thing. I’m really pissed off!
I wouldn't trust the tech at the Genius Bar too much. Someone recently wrote that the tech couldn't (didn't know how) change the exposure time of a photo from 3s to longer in the camera. I don't deny that resets can be caused by hardware errors, but from what some people have written, after exchanging phones for new ones they still reset. It seems that the problem is quite common, so maybe Apple will look into it. I'll wait for the 18.1 update and see how the phone behaves then.
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