What is that workflow that demands such speeds? I mean, when using iPhone 16 (non pros).
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iPhone 16 USB-C Still Limited to USB 2, No Change for 16 Pro Either
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Cheap chinese manufacturers are the ones doing long-term damage to the brain of some people. These people think that a cr@ppy LTPS (with fixed refresh rates) and low contrast-ratio screens are better than a Super Retina XDR screen just because it is locked to 60Hz.
If you take time to read, you'll know that the screen refresh rate is not the only thing that matters and it actually doesn't impact as much as other things like efficiency, color accuracy and so on.
You really need to get out and try things beyond the Apple-sphere
Your perceptions of the competitive landscape here are really off base
Interesting to know that principles mean nothing to you. It's just Apple being cheap when they don't need to be and while charging a premium for a not-so-premium device.
Do you think only Apple knows how to build phones with OLED panels? LOL
I have to say on such a small screen, it really makes no perceptible difference to me, especially with the smoothness of Apple's animations. I notice the unbelievable difference on a much bigger screen such as the iPad where the 120Hz is genuinely amazing, but on the phones, it's just a battery waster in my opinion.
Curious what you're doing to see that 120Hz is amazing on the iPad Pro? Safari doesn't use 120Hz without hunting down some obscure setting and enabling it. I have both Samsung and Apple devices with higher refresh rates, and I find that with Samsung, the 120Hz is more noticeable and scrolling is more smooth.
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But surely we could make the same argument about Wifi 6 / 7 or 4G / 5G - why do we need up to 2Gbps wireless connections for a phone - my phone will never be a server... it'll never be a download device, a torrent client, a NAS, it'll almost never connect to internet connections of more than 100Mbps (on average), it will barely EVER need that full 100Mbps for the vast majority of things that it does most of the time - streaming video, music, websites, social media apps etc. But yet we already have these absolutely overkill features that we have to pay a premium for... Do we truly need them ? No.
They why do we have them ?
I could say the same for Retina displays (too much detail, high power consumption, higher price compared to lower DPI screen, aesthetically pleasing to have crisper images , text but that's all, I mean, do we REALLY NEED it ?), the large phone size (too large for most of our hands, requires two hands in some cases to reach top of the screen, more screen pixels equals more graphics processing, hence bigger battery, hotter phone, more consumption - is it really necessary?).
Do we need any of these things? Not really. Do we use them all to their full capacity all the time - no way. Do we appreciate the fact that we have them - mostly yes. And like you say it would be pennies to implement another thing that we would appreciate and that's a faster connector type for those moments that we need to transfer photos, videos, do a restore or backup, access the phone storage for transferring a large file quickly.
Literally my only experience is in scrolling between the different home screens, not much more. I've only ever used them in an Apple Store and my ex had one and the smoothness really blew my mind. Certainly if you compare it with an iPad standard at 60Hz.
They've always been this way. We're just getting tired of seeing the same thing every year. I remember when people were complaining about every live event too because of Apple engineers applauding every sentence and the press poo booing every sentence. All Apple has to do is alternate live with pre-recorded every year and people will think that some exciting product announcements are happening every year because it's a basic change in presentation.
It was just more awkward energy but people watched for that reason. No different than watching a car race for accidents. Pre-recorded is safer and delivers info better but Apple has done a half dozen of these already and we all know the script by now. No one needs to see it unless there are actually new products that haven't been leaked. I'm guessing AVP will be the last great (measured by audience numbers and press reaction, not content) recorded presentation that Apple will ever have. They'll go back to live when they shrink AVP down into glasses.
It's people who don't use cloud services for data storage.
I think it's good Apple doesn't cater to them since they're some of the worst customers Apple could have. Unfortunately, getting them to use Android and Windows/Linux exclusively, seems to be impossible.
If this thread interests you, then you might also be interested in the following thread, which discusses the downsides of iPhones having slow USB 2.0 transfer speeds:
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Will iPhone 14 be USB 2.0? Probably, since Cook is mediocre.
Apple computers have had USB 3.0 since mid-2012. That is 10 years ago. Despite that, Tim Cook, being the mediocre beancounter MBA suit that he is, has still not done anything to upgrade the connectivity on the latest iPhones. The latest iPhones use the same USB 2.0 connectivity that shipped with...
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How does anyone defend paying today's prices for 20 year old tech 😂
Apple began transitioning to USB-C instead of Lightning with the launch of the iPhone 15 lineup, and USB-C is also used for charging for the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro models. Apple did not improve connectivity speeds with the USB-C port in any of the new models, maintaining the status quo.
The iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus continue to have USB 2 transfer speeds of up to 480Mb/s, while the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max feature USB 3 transfer speeds up to 10Gb/s. 480Mb/s is the same transfer speed that the Lightning port supported.
During today's event, Apple mentioned faster USB 3 speeds when discussing the A18 Pro, which implied that it would be faster than the A17 Pro. It looks like Apple instead was comparing the A18 Pro to the A18 in that instance, ultimately highlighting a feature that was already present in the iPhone 15 Pro models.
Despite the confusing wording, technical specifications for the new iPhone 16 models suggest Apple has not made changes to any USB-C transfer speeds. Note that taking advantage of the 10Gb/s transfer speeds in the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max requires an appropriate 10Gb/s USB-C cable.
Apple's iPad Pro models, which also have a USB-C port, support Thunderbolt transfer speeds of up to 40Gb/s.
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Literally anyone with a computer 🤦♂️ not only is It terrible transfer speeds but also the slowest charging speed on the market
”The iPhone video market” would disagree with what exactly? I do admit Apple has a much better marketing department than the competitors, but as video cameras, flagship video oriented phones are about equal in all tests. Prores on a phone is a great way to inflate file sizes and not gain any significant quality. It’s a phone camera, there’s only so much polishing image enhancement algorithms can do to mask that.
I literally never connect my iPhone to my PC or Mac. And only charge it wired when I'm away from home for multiple days. Other than that MagSafe is the charge method of choice.
I’m talking about the number of people, or even organisations that use iPhone as a professional video camera. And that's partly marketing but mainly quality in video. For example, Apple ProRes video format. Nothing comes close. Marketing "Shot on iPhone" is great, but the proof is on the pudding. Sure, some might use a Samsung Phone, but I don’t believe the numbers are anything close to iPhone.
I'm not talking about stills. That’s about even.
Have you actually bothered to research the current state of the Google and Samsung flagship phones? Get back to me when you do so and realise that is is very much a competitive market.
Case in point: I am a MacBook Pro user for 15 years, and an iPhone user since when the iPhone 4. I'm still using Macs because I still love them. But last year switched to the Google Pixel. I had a couple of friends show me some of the features, and I couldn't believe it. My jaw dropped. I did my research and switched.
Also the idea of the ecosystem being a lock in is a joke. The Pixel integrates with the MBP perfectly fine, and in some ways is better, regardless of Apple's best attempts at gimping all it's products to try in vain to prevent such.
I also discovered that the so called fantastic auto-switching H2 chip is a joke. There is a common bluetooth standard that allows dual connecting to two devices at once. My non-Apple earbuds actually connect to both my Pixel and MBP simultaneously. If I am playing music on one, and want to watch a video on the other, all I have to do is start the video, and the earbuds will automatically and instantaneously pause the music, and switch the the video audio. Same result as the AirPods, except I can now connect to any two bluetooth devices, not just Apple devices.
Competitive market? Are you kidding. Poke around and do some research, your mind will be blown.
Same with my Bose headphones plus I have the ability to use them as a wired headset too.
I notice no one was willing to respond to this. The workflow for speed is if for that 1 in a million who choose to take video with the phone and don’t put it on TikTok or FB and maybe want to use iMovie for the first time, it will be quicker to plug it in. But 480Mb/s would be ample for those people if they knew how to do it. But for 999,999 people out of million, they won’t bother.
I never use the cable, so no real problem for me.
That said, usb 2 speed is embarrassing...
They could have at least given the normal 16 a 5gbps speed.
That said, usb 2 speed is embarrassing...
They could have at least given the normal 16 a 5gbps speed.
I noticed that too.
It was all very underwhelming, and even the traditional cool camera transitions were often replaced by dips to black.
Same thing with Craig.
Seeing his bombastic personality each keynote, was the highlight.
Hope to see a bit more energy in the next wwdc.