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repeating myself: in the pre-internet days I travelled to 5 continents without a cellphone, GPS etc, somehow I survived

OMG. How prehistoric, how did you survive without being able to post every thing you did on Instragram?

Next thing you’ll be telling me you navigated with a sextant and shooting the stars…
 
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People are acting klike apple will introduce wireless only in the iPhone18 line. I would guess it would first appear on the low end, simply because people using higher end phones are more likely to use peripherals
I would guess that the profit motivated headphone jack delete still has folks angry, and this would be more of the same as there are not many valid reasons to remove it.

Other side of the coin is that Mr. Thin! Jony Ive is mostly gone and apple has been adding ports back to machines. So this article might just be rage bait.
 
I thought they already had with the iPhone 15 pro, given my usb c hasn’t worked for over a year, (only noticed it was going then as always use magsafe to charge but then a couple of weeks ago noticed it had gone totally when really needed to use usb-c and ofc now out of warranty - a google search proved it was not a isolated complaint)
 
OMG. How prehistoric, how did you survive without being able to post every thing you did on Instragram?

Next thing you’ll be telling me you navigated with a sextant and shooting the stars…
no, unfortunately never got to go sailing, but I used a map, made of paper, can you believe it?
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Apple considered launching the iPhone 17 Air without a USB-C charging port, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.

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In his Power On newsletter today, Gurman said that while Apple ultimately decided against making the iPhone 17 Air its first iPhone model without a charging port, the idea is still on the table for future iPhone models.

He said the iPhone 17 Air will "foreshadow a move to slimmer models without charging ports."

"The iPhone 17 Air represents the beginning of a sea change for Apple," he wrote. "Apple executives say that if this new iPhone is successful, the company intends to again attempt to make port-free iPhones and move more of its models to this slimmer approach."

Apple supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo predicted that the first iPhone without a charging port would launch all the way back in 2021, but that did not happen. Apple has shifted from its custom Lightning port to the universal USB-C port on iPhones over the past few years, but the wait for an iPhone without a charging port at all continues.

P.S. Hopefully the iPhone 17 Air will support MagSafe, unlike the iPhone 16e.

Article Link: 'iPhone 17 Air' is Step Towards Slimmer iPhones Without USB-C Ports
Considering the iPhone 16 now has MagSafe wireless charging faster than formerly available wired, and WiFi sync with WiFi 6E or WiFi 7 is plenty fast, Apple could update their software to allow wireless sync of photos and video and wireless backup, and go connectionless at least on some model.
 
Looks like someone got impatient and released their April Fool’s joke a few weeks too early. Horrible idea not allowing both charging methods as giving consumers options is better for sales.
 
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So, does Apple care about you or me? No, they showed they are a big and strong impact company that moves forwards and doesnt care about normal, living in the past customers....if they cared, we would still have optical iphone headphone jack Apple devices in 2025

You consider moving to a port-less phone as moving forward. I say it's a regression and profit-seeking move, anti-consumer and a way to achieve more proprietary lock-in.
 
You consider moving to a port-less phone as moving forward. I say it's a regression and profit-seeking move, anti-consumer and a way to achieve more proprietary lock-in.
Agreed 100%. However if Apple has a strong profit motive, they will try it. When they yanked the headphone jack, they had recently acquired Beats, so it was fairly apparent why they dumped it.
 
MagSafe heats up the phone which then throttles the charge speed or the phone may want to pause. SO you cant charge fast. Also if you were using GPS and MagSafe charge at same time, this heats the phone and you have this issue again.

I noticed there is a big mindset difference between people who stay at home a lot and people who travel and are out and about. The travelers need fast convenient charging and reliability. I need to be able to plug in, get a fast charge and unplug in 20 min. I cant wait around for slow charging or phone overheating and pausing charge. The USB port is very necessary and I wont buy a phone without it unless they can give me a very realistic all day use battery in the smallest phone and even then I have to carry around a MagSafe charger when I travel?
I might be in that category and in the end the most reliable source of extra battery is a battery pack. I guess with a MAGsafe batterypack you could keep a full one on the phone at all times. In the end this just defeats their idea of a thin phone completly.

Wireless charging is all cute and all but is just no efficient, I really think this would be a very silly move to do.
 
I might be in that category and in the end the most reliable source of extra battery is a battery pack. I guess with a MAGsafe batterypack you could keep a full one on the phone at all times. In the end this just defeats their idea of a thin phone completly.

Wireless charging is all cute and all but is just no efficient, I really think this would be a very silly move to do.
Might as well carry a better camera and music player with you to preserve battery life on your phone. 😂🤦‍♂️
 
Thin!
 

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"This is a bad idea, Apple is doomed, Apple is lost....no more cd rom, no more floppy, no more headphone jack"....years fast forward...the industry copy paste and people stoped complaining and they adapt
Part of what made those changes bearable is that you could still use an external drive or an adapter. Removing the last physical port removes that option.
 
Cars have wireless chargers and ports for ones wireless chargers.
Sure, some do, but what about other peripherals, such as displays, mics and cameras, storage devices (now that iCloud is no longer private for those of us in the UK), etc.? Is there going to be some sort of secure way transferring information at high rates via magsafe? I have been using my iPhones in my lab with peripherals since the iPhone 4 and the 30 pin connector...
 
Sure, some do, but what about other peripherals, such as displays, mics and cameras, storage devices (now that iCloud is no longer private for those of us in the UK), etc.? Is there going to be some sort of secure way transferring information at high rates via magsafe? I have been using my iPhones in my lab with peripherals since the iPhone 4 and the 30 pin connector...
You are talking common use cases outside of apple fandom. Those don’t count in this fanboi realm. 🤣
 
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I love people here....deva vu for me...same complaints when Apple removed optical drive and headphone jacks...5 years later nobody is complaining
That's because people become tired of complaining; it doesn't necessarily mean they don't still miss those features. For instance:

The overwhelming majority of high-end headphones and earbuds remain wired and, because of the missing audio jack, you can't use those with your iPhone unless you add a BT headphone adapter.

There's a real convenience to be able to just plug your earbuds into your portable music device without having to mess with an adapter. That's gone now if you're using an iPhone.

Plus, even if you do get an adapter, you can't get just any one. You don't want to pair that quality of headphone/earbud with the smallest/cheapest adapter. You'll want one offers something like aptX HD (24-bit/48kHz). aptX is lossy (AFAIK, all BT codecs are, probably because of bandwidth limitations), but I've not experimented with it to determine if it's audibly lossy.
 
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Isn’t MagSafe charging less efficient than cable charging thus more expensive and subsequently will generate a higher electric bill?
I would argue that your iPhone's electricity consumption is neglectable. The efficiency between wired and wireless charging is about 80% versus 60%. for every litre of water you boil you can charge your phone 4x wireless or 6x wired. However, multiplying this by the 1.3billion phones out there, then we are talking about quite a lot of energy. But airdrying your clothes once or twice instead of using the tumbledryer will offset this already. at least, that's what I get for my back-of-a-napkin calculation assuming assuming about 15Wh for a wired iPhone charge and 3kWh for a tumbledryer.
 
The worst part of apple is its fanbois.

And, likewise, those who start foaming at the mouth with anger at the latest "Mark Gurman says" that Apple might possible do something that they don't like, at some unspecified time in the future.

Mind you, I'm old enough to remember the fury and hate directed at Apple when they removed the floppy disk drive from the Mac, so I tend to assume that none of this really matters in the long run.
 
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