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Yup. Cant fault her for pushing my order out their Chinese warehouse.

Paragon is the one.

Sheath buttons defo rattle a lot.

Im all sorted for my trip.
Some say the rattle is negligible, some say it’s a lot. I would think that floating / removable buttons can’t be helped.
 
Some say the rattle is negligible, some say it’s a lot. I would think that floating / removable buttons can’t be helped.
Literally just about every case with floating buttons rattle when you shake it like a mad man looking for rattle. Now I know on the Sheath there is a fix because some do rattle more than others but normally, buttons that rattle a little is a non issue.
 
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It’s a good job there are lots of different case styles to choose from because to my eyes that is FUGLy! 😂
 
Literally just about every case with floating buttons rattle when you shake it like a mad man looking for rattle. Now I know on the Sheath there is a fix because some do rattle more than others but normally, buttons that rattle a little is a non issue.
I’ve had about 50/50 rattling vs non-rattling floating buttons. I think we can expect companies to produce cases with buttons that don’t rattle, it’s not asking a lot.

Personally, my dislike of loose buttons isn’t so much the sound, but the feel.
 
Has anyone noticed any impact on reception from cases that have a metal camera surround?

I have the TW Apple case (not metal), but I posted a few weeks back that i found phone signal/mobile reception to be impacted by the case, as when it was removed, websites loaded quickly for example. I will say that I have a dual SIM as my office has little to no signal, but my 15PM did not display these kind of issues when I had it.

It doesn't appear to be having much of an impact now-the phone was only 2 days old when I took it into work-maybe it was still doing background 'stuff' which impacted it? I don't know.#

Useful reply, right 😂
 
I’ve had about 50/50 rattling vs non-rattling floating buttons. I think we can expect companies to produce cases with buttons that don’t rattle, it’s not asking a lot.

Personally, my dislike of loose buttons isn’t so much the sound, but the feel.
I personally don’t know the ins and outs of making buttons not move around, it’s usually more than what the customer knows. But it’s been very very few times when I’ve touched button or seen them move around where it bothered me personally.
 
I personally don’t know the ins and outs of making buttons not move around, it’s usually more than what the customer knows. But it’s been very very few times when I’ve touched button or seen them move around where it bothered me personally.
To each his own. For me, overly loose buttons immediately make a case feel cheap, like loose clutch/brake levers on a motorcycle, or a loose stick shift linkage on an old car. It’s a sloppy feeling…
 
To each his own. For me, overly loose buttons immediately make a case feel cheap, like loose clutch/brake levers on a motorcycle, or a loose stick shift linkage on an old car. It’s a sloppy feeling…
If it’s too loose I for sure agree but I can’t remember a case where I’ve felt they were too loose. I’ve felt that before but nothing as of recent hasn’t really made me feel that. For those that have the Sheath with the button issue, I don’t have one so I haven’t felt it.
 
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Has anyone tried the Spigen Enzo Aramid T on a 17 PM? It has good reviews, however I'm concerned about the metal frame around the opening causing damage to the antenna plateau.

I'm also considering a Mous Limitless, as it has a similar design, but with a plastic opening around the plateau.
I’ve had both. I loved the Enzo but I was worried about the metal ring on the plateau also.
I ended up returning it. I kept the Mous Leather case. Didn’t like the aramid Mous. Just felt weird and not much grip. The Enzo aramid felt a lot better to me.

The Enzo is super nice though. Was probably the best case build quality wise I’ve ever held. Also still had decent lip protection even with a screen protector. I was surprised about that.
 
As a new iP17P owner, having just read, or skimmed half of the 220 pages in this thread, it's funny how the more less things change, the more they stay the same.

In past research for a new case, Rhinoshield was the company that had difficulty delivering their products, and once they started shipping and reaching users, so did the reviews nitpicking their products' flaws, justified or not.

It appears that Caudabe, which used to be a darling for ultra-thin cases that were cheap, but good quality, is now the one receiving the slings and arrows.

Perhaps rightly so, but I imagine running a small company in a virtual space (their physical address points to a PO box), that mostly relies on suppliers thousands of miles away, and receives no help from Apple in their product development isn't exactly a easy, bump-free path to trod.

And unlike many other accessory makers, they're unable, or unwilling to make bets based on educated guesses as to what Apple will push out the door every September, just to have something on the shelf as soon as the the devices are.

The latter approach captures the early sales, but can result on beta-quality products if the guesses aren't precisely on target, or the production processes haven't been refined. So there is something to be said for waiting until Apple makes things public, and issues the latest version of its accessory design bible. Even if that upsets the impatient buyers.

A few other random thoughts about other points that have been brought up --

I prefer a covered plateau. Simple physics says that a giant hole cut into something will impact its structural strength, and without some form of reinforcement, be a compromise. With so many openings, especially now, it has still always been wise to follow any brand's guidelines for installation/removal to reduce the risk of breaking a case during the process.

And putting aside any aesthetic considerations, Apple is pretty clear that metal, or conductive material is not kosher for an area that covers the entire plateau, extending into the area below it. That would presumably extend to the metal rings used as guards, as well as the style of protective camera covers attached to an aluminum backing plate. (see figure)View attachment 2571930

Another trend with cases of late seems to be the inclusion of provisions for lanyards. Apple included, which has received some puzzling reactions, likely from those who haven't been to Asia and seen it is a thing for some users. Still, lots of lanyard holes, but no lanyards for sale from other case brands.

Pressed for time, and the desire for a temporary solution, I've ordered a Spigen Rugged Armor, which seems to be a reasonably priced case with a good balance between bulk/protection/value. The Ringke Onyx, a close competitor is also attractive, but to me falls short in some details, like the coverage of the top speaker, and the shape of the plateau guard.

I usually buy both urban, and "off-road" cases to suit both needs, but my daily driver is usually a leather case of some kind, but I'll be more patient with that decision, and closely look at that mega-thread. I've used, and like Nomad's stuff, and it's great to see them finally branching out some in terms of colors, including Horween's famous #8, but I hesitate to pay full price, with a $10 premium on top for the color. But, Black Friday is coming soon, so…

Whatever the case may be (pun not intended), it seems the Device Protection Industrial Complex is still alive and humming, despite those that have become roadkill (RIP Evutec, but glad to see Pitaka still offering modern equivalents)



Kuxiu X40 v2.2, right? It has piqued my interest, and once you've figured out which model is which since they've done a poor job of differentiating them, it seems attractive.

But for close to $100, I expect to see MFi/MFAW certification, which is doesn't appear to have. Given the move to broad standards like Type-C and Qi2.x, MFAW is the last bastion of the MFi program, and still important given the tiny cells inside the Watch.
I have been using the ESR Cloud case with a metal stand around the plateau since the day it arrived. I have had no signal issues what so ever with it. The metal is not on the inside and does not touch the phone at all. It has been a solid case and with the PR Gen7 and dbrand Tank preordered, something is going to have to be better than this case for me to swap out.
 
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