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iPhone 17 Pro Launching Later This Year With These 10 New Features

Reeneman said:
With the aluminium frame I’m also highly curious how this will be marketed and sold to the customers.
We had Stainless Steel (surgical quality) then we went to the Titanium (space travel quality) and now back to Aluminium, which was presented as a more mainstream and less premium material for the regular iPhones.
I’m pretty sure apple will tell any kind of story about a new kind of aluminium which has now become the absolute best… 😆
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Companies like to brag about “aircraft grade aluminium” while conveniently leaving out that drink cans also meet this mark.
 
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If the individual camera lenses don't stick out any further than the "rectangular surround" (in contrast to the current "square bump sticks out, lenses stick out even further") I wouldn't mind. The unevenness of the camera bump is just annoying. Having the phone "lay flat" when set down, instead of wobbling when you press on a corner, being somewhat stable would be nice.
 
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I'm not tempted to upgrade to the coming iPhone due to its unappealing design. Furthermore, the software is becoming more and more outdated, failing to take advantage of the advanced processors. The missing AI feature and the downgrade from titanium to aluminum are just a few of the many drawbacks.
 
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maxfromdenmark said:
I'm not tempted to upgrade to the coming iPhone due to its unappealing design. Furthermore, the software is becoming more and more outdated, failing to take advantage of the advanced processors. The missing AI feature and the downgrade from titanium to aluminum are just a few of the many drawbacks.
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yeah, my 16 pro is good enough for me for now. I'll reevaluate when the 19 pro comes out and see if it's worth an upgrade.
 
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MacRumors said:


While the iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max are not expected to launch until September, there are already plenty of rumors about the devices.


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iPhone 17 Pro's alleged design via Front Page Tech​

Below, we recap key changes rumored for the iPhone 17 Pro models as of March 2025:


Article Link: iPhone 17 Pro Launching Later This Year With These 10 New Features
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Ok I'm going to sound the alarm here.

1. Flip-Flopping between Aluminum and Titanium every 2 to 4 years is NOT a DAMN feature! Its a joke. The fact this is even mentioned leads me to believe Apple is paying or feels its spending TOO much for Titanium alloy in their phones and the profits per device is too low to pay Tim Cook if they come out of this upcoming class action lawsuit better than expected.

2. A Camera Bump shape is NOT A FEATURE! Its a SHAPE or Design. Unless it folds into stand or finger through holding devices it means NOTHING but an aesthetic design!

Like serious Macrumors needs to STOP being Apple's marketing sales division and get back to its roots. Peddling this and any user that things these 2 are features needs to get their heads split and checked out asap!

Is anyone else sick of these mediocre sales attempts?!

FYI bigger battery capacity is one thing but Silicon Carbon/Carbide battery is what you REALLY want! I feel that a slightly thicker body is not what you're gonna get from this battery technology but plain old Li-Ion polymer
 
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AusMness said:
Why on gods green earth would we go back to aluminum that makes no sense

Starting to sound like a broken record here with that grotesque camera bump:
- The flash will cast shadows that don’t match the lens
- The mic can’t support audio mix
- The LiDAR has to be as close as possible to the lens so that they read info from the same POV
- The extra material for that long ass bar will cost Apple a lot
- Your fingers will naturally cover the lidar, flash and mic while you use it in landscape
- Titanium is already perfect and aluminum is a step back
- Two-tone materials just look bad and cost more
- There isn’t a single benefit to this design whatsoever (the lenses still protrude past the camera bump, so it will still rock on tables)
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Yeah, I completely agree! They keep tweaking the design just enough to make it look “new,” but it’s really just a way to differentiate from last year’s model. The camera bump keeps getting bigger, and at this point, it feels more like a branding move than a functional upgrade.

And switching from titanium to aluminum? Definitely a cost-saving measure for them, not for us. If anything, it makes the phone more prone to bending, which is ironic given how much they hyped up titanium last year.
 
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flybass said:
Maybe I’m in the minority, but I don’t see the software making use of the updated hardware at this point in time. If the AI thing wasn’t a bust, then maybe…
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Its been that way since the A16!

iOS hasn't really been challenged internally to really grow. small moves there and there and THAT'S why Emoji's and any iteration of that has taken up SO MUCH time on iPhone presentations the last 7yrs. That and Camera focus.

iMessage got small update after what 5yrs since its launch?!

Kill a bluetooth standard just to bump contacts - something Craig himself made fun off about 7yrs prior of Android with NFC yet he forgets - as many others - that is what he was cheered for and users cheer for bumping on iOS?!

I guess that's by design ... the iPhone simply will only continue to be just that ...
a "Phone" for "i" (you, me, they, whomever is the individual that will look inward to say "i"). Its long reached its peak. It now needs to fully be a smartphone first and foremost.
 
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Ethrem said:
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Yes, the keyboard isn't the best. That's definitely something Apple should address. iOS 19 is said to be an entire design overhaul so it seems I moved at the right time but now that I can put icons anywhere I want on the screen, I'm not really that annoyed by the iOS interface anymore. I do hope Apple implements the ability to swipe to go back to the previous app at some point though. That particular gesture is very inconsistent and it's taking some getting used to. Like if I open a link from my email on my Android phone, I can swipe to go leave the browser and go back to my email, but on iOS, I have to tap the arrow in the top left corner. That's minor though and I'm getting used to it. <more cut text>
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Thanks for your Android summary. Those things sound like they’d annoy me too. I only tried Android a long time ago with a Nexus 7, but have been fully in the iOS camp since the first iPhone (even buying it when it wasn’t available in my country).
Anyway, I wanted to say that you can swipe in iOS to switch back to the previous app. Swipe on the bar at the bottom of the screen to go back. You can switch back through all of the open apps this way and swipe the other way to go forward through the apps again too. Hopefully that helps.
 
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Ethrem said:
That's hilarious because I just switched back to iOS for the first time since the 12 Pro Max.

Things I've noticed:

1) Standby drain is so much better. My OnePlus 13 can't match my 16e unless I have basically nothing installed.

2) Notifications are no longer delayed or entirely missing, another improvement over recent Android devices where notifications can be delayed by hours or just be missed entirely.

3) App quality is so much better on iOS. I'm honestly shocked at how much better common apps like X and Reddit are on iOS. There's no comparison. This extends to games too. They just run much smoother on iOS than they do on Android because devs optimize for iOS.

4) Universal Spotlight search is SO much more convenient for how I use my phone. I use search rather than clutter up my home screen on my devices and I get so irritated with the fact that Google's search built in to the launcher pulls up the Google app, which means if I want to grab a 2FA code from Authy, I have to swipe twice to get back to the last app I was using. Since gestures on Android are less precise than they are on iOS, this often means I have to swipe three times to actually get back to the app that needed the code and then Android even closes the keyboard so I have to tap and bring that back up too, which always has about a half second lag no matter the device as well. I bring this up because it's a constant issue. Spotlight doesn't count as an app so I can use it, search for and open Authy, and when I swipe I go right back to the app that needed the code. None of this even touches on just how much more Spotlight can search. How Google hasn't implemented their own universal search is beyond me (and implementations by the OEMs are always lacking and clunky).

5) Google has started to make some annoying decisions that make the iPhone better for power users. For example, I use Microsoft Phone Link to get my notifications on my PC. With Android 15, Google now decides some things are too sensitive to show, and there is no option to get around that. Guess what? The iPhone pairs with Phone Link and shows me every single notification that comes in just as I want -- bonus points, I have yet to have it disconnect from my PC unlike every time I use an Android phone with the app nor have I had it fail to connect automatically when I bring the computer back from sleep, another constant fight with the Android phones. Google is also making it harder to sideload apps, not allowing them to have all the same permissions as apps installed from the Play Store without workarounds in settings (and OnePlus goes further here, not allowing you to override this limitation at all), while Apple is becoming less restrictive about allowed apps, which means I don't even need to sideload on iOS anymore.

6) On with the annoying decisions that Google is making, they're also going to make it harder to hide the fact you're rooted from apps. I have to root to be able to tolerate Android, as it allows me to undo Google's interference in how i use my device, but then I'm forced to give up tap to pay, banking, games, because of root detection. It's my phone, let me use it how I want!

Yes, the keyboard isn't the best. That's definitely something Apple should address. iOS 19 is said to be an entire design overhaul so it seems I moved at the right time but now that I can put icons anywhere I want on the screen, I'm not really that annoyed by the iOS interface anymore. I do hope Apple implements the ability to swipe to go back to the previous app at some point though. That particular gesture is very inconsistent and it's taking some getting used to. Like if I open a link from my email on my Android phone, I can swipe to go leave the browser and go back to my email, but on iOS, I have to tap the arrow in the top left corner. That's minor though and I'm getting used to it.

I don't care about the AI stuff one bit but yeah, if you want more of that nonsense, Android will give you that.

Anyway, I can't see myself going back to Android any time soon. Google has stepped up the nannying to a level I just can't tolerate anymore while Apple has relented in many ways and I am just so tired of fighting with my phone. Everything with Apple just works.
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I've never experienced delayed or missing notifications on android while I have on iOS - in my experience android does notifications better by a landslide, it's not even close.

App quality between android and iOS is hit or miss, some are better on android and others better on iOS, also some apps that cost money on iOS can be found for free on android and there isn't always a difference in quality.

I give spotlight an edge up over android's search feature, but android's search isn't bad at all and android's App Library and management (being able to clear cache or data) is better

One thing you didn't touch on is swiping/navigating in system or apps - iOS is an absolute mess regarding this while android is very consistent requires much less effort and thought to navigate because it's so seemless.

and yeah apple's keyboard is so much worse lol
 
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HiVolt said:
I see no reason for the Pro's to be using these expensive and heavier materials. I had a 12 Pro max with stainless steel and it was heavy as hell, I have a 15 pro max with the titanium, its a bit lighter but an aluminum one would be even lighter.

I'm not tossing it against the wall and it's always in a case, besides I've never damaged the old aluminum phones.

If it keeps the price from increasing its a good thing. However I have no reason to buy one, 15PM more than capable for what I do.
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Getting old sucks—when even a 7.8oz phone feels like a workout, you know it’s downhill from there. Definitely not something I’m looking forward to. 🤣


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DakotaGuy said:
From a material cost standpoint it makes a lot of sense. Imagine saving a few dollars in material costs on every phone when you sell in the numbers that iPhones do. They can charge the same price or even more because it's a new phone and pocket the savings. It's a smart way to do cost cutting without customers noticing.
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Imagine you're exactly right BUT Apple does NOT send the savings of the sale price in ANY country to their customers!

LOL what do you gain by champion for them? Nothing.
 
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I know I'm in the minority, but camera upgrades are a primary selling point for me. Apple waited a loooooong time to unify all three cameras with the same number of megapixels. The iPhone 17 looks to have everything I could ask for, although I wish Apple had stuck with a fixed telephoto lens with a shorter focal length.

The only thing left to tempt me into a new device would be Prores Raw, a feature I want but can live without.
 
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DakotaGuy said:
From a material cost standpoint it makes a lot of sense. Imagine saving a few dollars in material costs on every phone when you sell in the numbers that iPhones do. They can charge the same price or even more because it's a new phone and pocket the savings. It's a smart way to do cost cutting without customers noticing.
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Today's price of Aluminum is $2.66 per kilogram, but Titanium costs $20 per Kg. Yes al is 10X cheaper but I doubt there is enve $1 worth of Ti in a phone.

What makes it cheaper is not the cost of the metal but Al is much easier and cheaper to work with and you can make more complex shapes with Al. I bet it is the cost of manufacturing that drives this.
 
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Hopefully they'll upgrade the PWM rate on the screen. If the relatively budget Nothing 3a can be rocking 2160Hz PWM dimming, there's no reason Apple (and their panel manufacturers) can't get on board and up their game from the lowly and very brutal 480Hz flicker.
 
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MacRumors said:
Below, we recap key changes rumored for the iPhone 17 Pro models as of March 2025:


Article Link: iPhone 17 Pro Launching Later This Year With These 10 New Features
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Aluminum might be necessary due to the larger size of the phone's unibody metal component. Currently, titanium is used only for the iPhone's frame. A new unibody titanium design would be prohibitively expensive because titanium extraction and processing are significantly more complex and energy-intensive than aluminum. This complexity increases the cost of raw titanium by up to 10 times. A better battery layout might help us avoid another "bend-gate," since batteries do not bend. Personally, I like the aesthetic of aluminum, and in any case, I upgrade my iPhone every year.

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A bigger camera bump maybe needed for one or all of the 3 reasons:

  • Larger 24-megapixel front camera
  • Larger 48-megapixel rear Telephoto camera
  • Dynamic Rear Display:

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