iPhone 17 Pro Launching Later This Year With These 10 New Features

[aleni]

Man, something's seriously off with Apple. You've got these dirt-cheap $250 Androids, beautiful 120Hz screens and all, that charge at 120W and still have 97% battery after a year. Then there's iPhones, crawling when they charge and losing battery like crazy. 87% after a year? Come on!

 

[stlblufan]

How is aluminum a "feature"?

 

[DDustiNN]

That's hilarious because I just switched back to iOS for the first time since the 12 Pro Max.

Things I've noticed:

1) Standby drain is so much better. My OnePlus 13 can't match my 16e unless I have basically nothing installed.

2) Notifications are no longer delayed or entirely missing, another improvement over recent Android devices where notifications can be delayed by hours or just be missed entirely.

3) App quality is so much better on iOS. I'm honestly shocked at how much better common apps like X and Reddit are on iOS. There's no comparison. This extends to games too. They just run much smoother on iOS than they do on Android because devs optimize for iOS.

4) Universal Spotlight search is SO much more convenient for how I use my phone. I use search rather than clutter up my home screen on my devices and I get so irritated with the fact that Google's search built in to the launcher pulls up the Google app, which means if I want to grab a 2FA code from Authy, I have to swipe twice to get back to the last app I was using. Since gestures on Android are less precise than they are on iOS, this often means I have to swipe three times to actually get back to the app that needed the code and then Android even closes the keyboard so I have to tap and bring that back up too, which always has about a half second lag no matter the device as well. I bring this up because it's a constant issue. Spotlight doesn't count as an app so I can use it, search for and open Authy, and when I swipe I go right back to the app that needed the code. None of this even touches on just how much more Spotlight can search. How Google hasn't implemented their own universal search is beyond me (and implementations by the OEMs are always lacking and clunky).

5) Google has started to make some annoying decisions that make the iPhone better for power users. For example, I use Microsoft Phone Link to get my notifications on my PC. With Android 15, Google now decides some things are too sensitive to show, and there is no option to get around that. Guess what? The iPhone pairs with Phone Link and shows me every single notification that comes in just as I want -- bonus points, I have yet to have it disconnect from my PC unlike every time I use an Android phone with the app nor have I had it fail to connect automatically when I bring the computer back from sleep, another constant fight with the Android phones. Google is also making it harder to sideload apps, not allowing them to have all the same permissions as apps installed from the Play Store without workarounds in settings (and OnePlus goes further here, not allowing you to override this limitation at all), while Apple is becoming less restrictive about allowed apps, which means I don't even need to sideload on iOS anymore.

6) On with the annoying decisions that Google is making, they're also going to make it harder to hide the fact you're rooted from apps. I have to root to be able to tolerate Android, as it allows me to undo Google's interference in how i use my device, but then I'm forced to give up tap to pay, banking, games, because of root detection. It's my phone, let me use it how I want!

Yes, the keyboard isn't the best. That's definitely something Apple should address. iOS 19 is said to be an entire design overhaul so it seems I moved at the right time but now that I can put icons anywhere I want on the screen, I'm not really that annoyed by the iOS interface anymore. I do hope Apple implements the ability to swipe to go back to the previous app at some point though. That particular gesture is very inconsistent and it's taking some getting used to. Like if I open a link from my email on my Android phone, I can swipe to go leave the browser and go back to my email, but on iOS, I have to tap the arrow in the top left corner. That's minor though and I'm getting used to it.

I don't care about the AI stuff one bit but yeah, if you want more of that nonsense, Android will give you that.

Anyway, I can't see myself going back to Android any time soon. Google has stepped up the nannying to a level I just can't tolerate anymore while Apple has relented in many ways and I am just so tired of fighting with my phone. Everything with Apple just works.

You can swipe to switch apps on iOS. Just horizontally swipe the home bar at the bottom of the screen.

 

[JohnC1959]

Man, something's seriously off with Apple. You've got these dirt-cheap $250 Androids, beautiful 120Hz screens and all, that charge at 120W and still have 97% battery after a year. Then there's iPhones, crawling when they charge and losing battery like crazy. 87% after a year? Come on!

Hmmm, my 6 month old 16 pro is currently at 100% battery health/capacity

 

[JohnC1959]

How is aluminum a "feature"?

In this context, I think features means attribute.

 

[FontGeek]

I’ve used my 12 pro without a case for probably 2 years of my 4 years with it. I dropped it dozens of times on numerous surfaces. No damage. NONE! I know many use cases, but huge numbers also don’t, going back to aluminium just seems utterly ludicrous to me. The number of caseless aluminium iPhones I see with huge sharp gouges out of them…not premium at all. Was going to wait but might have to get the 16P so I can have a strong phone if they’re gonna be alu for a while 😢

I’ve used 2 caseless aluminum iPhones (12 mini and 13 mini) over the last 4 years. My experience has been 0 gouges, 0 broken screens, and 0 issues.

 

[notabadname]

Aside from far cheaper (1 tenth the cost), Aluminum is 40% lighter than Titanium, and is a better conductor of heat (i.e. cooling) - so there are some valid reasons for it's use aside from saving $.

 

[jmgregory1]

Aside from far cheaper (1 tenth the cost), Aluminum is 40% lighter than Titanium, and is a better conductor of heat (i.e. cooling) - so there are some valid reasons for it's use aside from saving $.

Titanium is about 1.7 times heavier than aluminum, but it is also 60% more dense, offering far greater strength, so thinner titanium can be used to offset much of the weight difference.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

All I know is the apple intelligence better work on my iphone 16 pro max like it would on the 17 Timmy!

This is tech; improving every year, a good thing. No one should ever think that "the ABC feature better work on my iphone 16 pro max like it would on the 17 Timmy!" You are right to demand that some ABC feature advertised last year to work should indeed work. But no rational person should expect ABC feature to work on a year x device to work like it would on the year x+1 device.

 

[StoneJack]

I would like to buy the Air edition. I'm not shooting as much video as I thought, so Pro is not necessary for me (currently Pro Max 15). Even Air's camera will be enough for video, so I want something lighter.
I also hope that the company releases ultralight notebook like LG Gram.

 

[Siliconguy]

Aside from far cheaper (1 tenth the cost), Aluminum is 40% lighter than Titanium, and is a better conductor of heat (i.e. cooling) - so there are some valid reasons for it's use aside from saving $.

"Aluminum, with a thermal conductivity of 210 W/m-K, outperforms Titanium, which has a thermal conductivity of just 17.0 W/m-K. Due to this, Aluminum is often used in applications requiring effective heat dissipation, such as heat sinks and cookware." And computer/phone parts.

Environmentally titanium production is a horror show. A company that is offended by using the non-edible parts of a cow to make a case should be far more offended if they knew how titanium was made.

 

[JohnC1959]

"Aluminum, with a thermal conductivity of 210 W/m-K, outperforms Titanium, which has a thermal conductivity of just 17.0 W/m-K. Due to this, Aluminum is often used in applications requiring effective heat dissipation, such as heat sinks and cookware." And computer/phone parts.

Environmentally titanium production is a horror show. A company that is offended by using the non-edible parts of a cow to make a case should be far more offended if they knew how titanium was made.

I've read that the environmental reason figured big into Applie's choice. They've been touting being carbon neutral but got dinged by some for titanium use. But heat dissipation is likely tied with that reason given that phones may have to throttle down when they get too warm.

 

[Siliconguy]

Titanium is about 1.7 times heavier than aluminum, but it is also 60% more dense, offering far greater strength, so thinner titanium can be used to offset much of the weight difference.

Density has nothing to do with strength otherwise phones would be cased in lead. Tensile strength is what you mean although phone cases are not under significant tensile stress.

Elastic modulus is more relevant for something likely to be sat on.

"Titanium generally has a higher elastic modulus (stiffness) than aluminum, meaning it's more resistant to deformation under stress. Titanium's modulus is around 110 GPa, while aluminum's is around 69 GPa."

 

[bobdobalina]

Aluminum might be necessary due to the larger size of the phone's unibody metal component. Currently, titanium is used only for the iPhone's frame. A new unibody titanium design would be prohibitively expensive because titanium extraction and processing are significantly more complex and energy-intensive than aluminum. This complexity increases the cost of raw titanium by up to 10 times. A better battery layout might help us avoid another "bend-gate," since batteries do not bend. Personally, I like the aesthetic of aluminum, and in any case, I upgrade my iPhone every year.

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A bigger camera bump maybe needed for one or all of the 3 reasons:

• Larger 24-megapixel front camera
• Larger 48-megapixel rear Telephoto camera
• Dynamic Rear Display:

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A rear display would be wild. Useful too.

 

[bobdobalina]

For the first time since the iphone 12 pro max launch, you count me in to click my mouse to death on pre order night.

11 Pro Max lifer here. I've said that every year since the 14 Pro Max. I actually pre-ordered the 16 Pro Max, but changed my mind. Surely(?!), this is the year!

 

[eatrains]

Yawn, another phablet.

 

[bobdobalina]

Man, something's seriously off with Apple. You've got these dirt-cheap $250 Androids, beautiful 120Hz screens and all, that charge at 120W and still have 97% battery after a year. Then there's iPhones, crawling when they charge and losing battery like crazy. 87% after a year? Come on!

My 11 Pro Max battery is at 73%. That's pretty good!

 

[SSDGUY]

Lame "upgrades" and continued chunk-ola design just might steer me toward the iphone air.

 

[bobdobalina]

I’ve used 2 caseless aluminum iPhones (12 mini and 13 mini) over the last 4 years. My experience has been 0 gouges, 0 broken screens, and 0 issues.

In the last two years I've dropped my iPhone onto cement from five or six feet several times, oh, and driven over an Apple Watch. Some of us are klutzes.

 

[Oblivious.Robot]

If people would just stop preordering and buying the newest iPhone due to FOMO, the better and more value to the customer Apple will be forced to offer immediately on the next generation, instead of the penny pitching Tim offering whatever scraps that are leftover to sell us a lump of coal with an Apple logo. iPhone feels like it's been held back for a generational leap and instead only offering minimal spec bumps to maximise the profits.

I haven't been excited for a new iPhone since the X, even the 12 Pro Max was decent but had the back glass have not broken and be so expensive to replace, I wouldn't have gotten the 15 Pro Max either.

 

[Tevosn]

Sounds a little underwhelming, but I wouldn’t mind my iPhone have a bit more optic zoom.

 

[Jumpthesnark]

Yeah, Bendgate was a <YAWN>. And social media is even sillier and even less competent now....

Exactly. I think it was around a dozen actual customers with the actual issue and the rest were Youtubers purposefully bending the phone for clickbait videos. Not saying the issue wasn't legit - it was - but people talk about it in shorthand as if half the owners if an iPhone 6 ended up with a bent phone. They did not. It was a tiny amount, a fraction of a fraction of units sold.

But hey, people love to tell stories.

 

[dkh587]

Not worth an upgrade from even 13 Pro. Apple will try to sell you the 17 Pros as something better. Nothing significant has been innovated. It was always about the money. We just went along because it was exciting and provided some utility. But there’s only so long you can stretch utility. Don’t give Apple the money.

the 13 Pro Max is still going strong. It could probably go several more years.

 

[Kmh241]

Why on gods green earth would we go back to aluminum that makes no sense

Starting to sound like a broken record here with that grotesque camera bump:
- The flash will cast shadows that don’t match the lens
- The mic can’t support audio mix
- The LiDAR has to be as close as possible to the lens so that they read info from the same POV
- The extra material for that long ass bar will cost Apple a lot
- Your fingers will naturally cover the lidar, flash and mic while you use it in landscape
- Titanium is already perfect and aluminum is a step back
- Two-tone materials just look bad and cost more
- There isn’t a single benefit to this design whatsoever (the lenses still protrude past the camera bump, so it will still rock on tables)

All the things you mention will be fixed and added as “new innovative features & design” on the iPhone 18. lol. 😂

 

[nfl46]

Nope. I’ll be keeping my 15PM. As long as the battery is still over 80%, I’m fine. I still don’t feel like the 17PM would be worth the upgrade for me.