If they go back to aluminum, maybe we get red phones again? I will need to upgrade from an iPhone XR at some point. While I couldn't care less about the whole Apple Intelligence idiocy, the increased amount of RAM should allow the phone to work better for longer into the future. Main limitation on my XR seems to be RAM.
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Exactly, it is the main upgrade I check for too. Last year's 16PM was rumored to get a newer camera module for the main rear camera which would have had a slightly larger sensor to improve image quality particularly in low light, but when that never happened it was explained the module wasn't available at the time production began. It is definitely available now so there's no excuse other than skimping for profit. I wonder if the wide angle camera also has a newer camera module available too but won't be included this year for the same reason. Also the focus seemed to have been on the configuration of the rear lenses and whether or not it will cause it to rock on a table, if that is a major issue for people just buy a case.
Some of this is basically "oh crap we needed more RAM than we thought for Apple Intelligence".
There is no point in buying this at all with the uncertainty around.
I can’t see them upping the 17’s to 12gb just yet because if they do that then how are they going to upsell most of their customers down the line.
Because if they up the ram on the 17’s to 12gb then going forward you will be less incentivized to upgrade down the road if future phones have only 12gb of ram in them & from a business point of view it makes no sense to up the ram after just 2 years
They have got to hold something back for the 18’s
Never on concrete (for my XR).
The key is not letting it drop.
IMHO, cases negatively impact the haptic of a phone, making it more likely to drop.
If Apple wants to make a comeback from this whole AI bust, they better go live with WWDC in June 2025 and bring the noise. Otherwise, the next lineup is going to be a flop. That's all I'm going to say.
The Pro Max will be thicker again? Jeez. Just stick with one size and shape for a few years, Apple. Anyone notice how every year, the phones are just a little thicker/slimmer, longer/wider? I am convinced this is all just smoke and mirrors to sell new cases.
Keep the same design for 3 years. Then change it. And keep it the same for another 3 years. It's called a long term product roadmap but not sure if Apple follows one anymore.
Keep the same design for 3 years. Then change it. And keep it the same for another 3 years. It's called a long term product roadmap but not sure if Apple follows one anymore.
Absolutely hideous design. Probably not accurate and released as ragebait by a lot of influencers.
I am more inclined to believe the previous supply chain leaks out of china that show the elongated camera module.
Probably wishful thinking
I am more inclined to believe the previous supply chain leaks out of china that show the elongated camera module.
Probably wishful thinking
Apple used to follow a tick tock schedule
By keeping the same design for 2 years
And have a brand new design
Apple’s strategy works and they will not deviate from it. Small, incremental improvements. The won’t change it because you or anyone else says they should.
I disagree. At least in my use case I always have a case on mine and I rarely if ever drop it.
It’s always been that way and it’s the way normal users (not us) like it. It’s a strategy that has them as the wealthiest business in the world. You can’t dispute it.
No the design was on a TikTok schedule with the same design for 2 years
Then Apple became lazy & introduced a little change here & there.
So when people actually get a proper change then they are delighted with it.
I doubt apple will actually stick to that render. Maybe the camera bar but no way will they keep the cameras in the frying pan shape. Especially if there is no use for anything in between. My guess is updated positioning of the cameras, possibly increasing size to take full advantage of the entire space. But then how would spatial capture work unless in portrait orientation...
At this point, just about every reliable rumor source has shown pretty solid evidence that the render in this article is how the camera bump and the location of its cameras will look. Apple might change the arrangement of the cameras at some point, but not with the iPhone 17, it seems. Maybe the 20.
"iPhone 17 Pro models are rumored to have an aluminum frame" Imagine people still defending Apple for going (back) to very, very inferior material. But hey, it's for the "<insert typical Apple made up reason>", and not for profit, right?
In México we still have daily ads which advertises the 16e as “Designed for Apple Intelligence”.
You're lucky that you haven't experienced 1 and 2. I don't know how you've missed them seeing how they've been constant complaints about Android for years but it's good that you didn't notice.
I don't like using hacked/modded apps. I pay for YouTube Premium and I just use the original Reddit app. Works fine.
As for the permissions for sideloaded apps, this link explains it all - https://www.androidauthority.com/android-15-restricted-settings-sideloading-3481098/
I do agree that they can do better, and I hope the iOS 19 is that better, but given all the issues I had with my recent Android devices (S23U, S24U, OnePlus 12, OnePlus 12R, OnePlus 13), I've been pretty surprised by this 16e. I mean I'm on the dev beta and even that is solid. Not a single freeze, not a single re-spring, not a single reboot, no missing notifications, and 2 days off the charger with 4-5 hours SoT a day. It hasn't even failed to stay connected to my Galaxy Watch despite the fact that I am using a third party app to connect it to both my OnePlus 13 and my 16e.
Yeah I know that gesture works but on Android I can swipe the edge of the phone to go back from my browser to the mail I was reading and that's a hard gesture to forget.
The notification issue has been a constant complaint about Android for years so I'm confused how so many people claim to have never experienced it. I've seen complaints about it from every brand since Android 12. It's caused by aggressive background app management by Doze and it's especially bad on OnePlus phones where the phone may just decide to close apps in the background even though you've told it not to. Seeing how the Pixel phones are underpowered, North American Samsung phones can't be rooted, and the update policies of the other manufacturers are awful, OnePlus is pretty much the only viable option for me to use Android anymore but it gets exhausting fighting with the OS all the time.
I have no doubt that there are apps that are better quality on Android, just none of the ones I use are.
I much prefer the organization of Apple's App Library honestly.
I did touch on the swiping/navigating and said that Apple needs to improve that. The only thing that really annoys me though is that I have to use the nav bar to swipe back when I open a link from an email. I got so used to swiping the side of the screen on Android that I'm struggling to unlearn that. I can navigate everything else just fine.