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By removing "features for testing" they get a good version except those features, which they desperately need for the other needed features.

Furthermore the push feature itself must be internally tested since that necessarily involves network as well as software issues.

I just wish Apple would address my post about them servicing and supplying the AT&T baseband requirements at each cell site and the HO switches. Apple has the capacity to design purpose specific boards for those tasks. AT&T buys them, so why not from Apple vs IBM or Cisco or whoever.

The iPhone IMPOSES a new paradigm on this world. That requires a network with about 5x the capacity as it had 6 months ago. GFL.

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I'm glad they are doing bug fixes now. Everytime they release an update there is always some annoying issue. They really need to crack down on that. I'm tired of getting a new update, having it work great for the first few days. Then, after a few days realize all the little bugs. I think they kind of update to frequently, they need to slow it down and focus and keeping everything bug free. Additionally, the soft reset takes forever. They need to work on that as well. Push Notifications can wait for now.
 
Ooh, like MMS, txt message forwarding, or cut/paste?!?!

not so much the cut and paste but MMS and txt forwarding should have been in there from day one and if they r going to use viewmymessage.com first of all y doesnt it work on the iphone (well at least mine doesnt...barely works on the computer) and now that there r apps, y hasnt apple made an app that u can click on the link in the text and it opens the app

also idk about everyone else...once push AIM comes ill basically be done with the computer well maybe not. but push email needs a message box u can see when ur phone is locked (like a SMS msg) so u dont need to unluck it to see if u have an email b/c u cant always hear/feel it by time the next iphone comes out im hoping all the basic features are put in and all the glitches r gone (most likely getting the next iphone)
 
I think Apple is pulling Push Notifications from 2.1 because this will be released in Late August/Early September in time for the 3G fix and plenty of Bugfixes.... Then Apple will release 2.1.1/2.2 in late Sept with Push Notification... Just in time... Apple needs to squish these bugs fast.... :eek:
 
How about lets stop ipod from skipping when multitasking god its sooo f#%king frustrating I want 1.1.4 Im going back to mac store to get degraded
 
Lets get back 1.4 stability... oh how i miss thee hehe, then start adding new fancy crap.
 
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I would love to see the reception issues fixed, but so far it does not look too good.
 
My guess too. In other words, 2.1.1 will include Push and will come out when 2.1 was SUPPOSED to come out, but they want to move 2.1 up sooner to kill some of the bigger bugs.

Again, just a guess, but this likely means NOTHING has changed as far as Push is concerned. We're just getting some extra bug fixes early.

If this is true, it's great news. But who knows? I'm sure most people are going to assume the "push is delayed" idea as truth and just go with that. But the truth is, we have no idea.

In any case both of these things should be ready in less than a month, who cares if they come in one package or two, it's only a month, I wouldn't put too much thought into it, it's not long to wait at all.
 
All that matters is that they pulled push notifications. They are afraid of creating another MobileMe mess and they don't want to take another hit. I seriously doubt that they are going to make 2 updates in a month, one adding as major an update as push notifications. And adding new features, yeah, right. 2.1 is just going to be bug fixes to improve stability. Apple doesn't want to add features right now, they want to make they ones they already have work the way they are supposed to
 
With the Mobile Me fiasco, could it be that Apple is afraid that this push notification server would be launched and have major reliability issues?

I could imagine being logged into AIM with multiple conversations running then have the push notification server crash at Apple (with no announcement, of course). Then, several hours later, receive 30 notifications at once from the server saying I have 30 new IMs.

Also, Apple really needs to fix that keyboard lag. I can handle the random app crashes, but I got really good at typing fast on my original iPhone and now I dread having to type a text message when my keyboard has been lagging on the 3G.

Edit: Just realized the post right above me mentioned this lol.
 
Do you guys think Apple will host an event for the iPod in September, and then just announce the release of 2.1, and possibly push services, just to add some more stuff to show off? xD

That's not out of the question. When Apple announced the iPod touch last September, they announced the 1.1.1 software update, which included the wireless music store for iPhone.

I'm really not looking for new features until the software is stable again. Just the other day, my iPod completely shut itself off and wouldn't turn back on without a reset. I'm still experiencing keyboard lag, and application updates are still broken.

And while this isn't related to the firmware, I want a iTunes & Quicktime update. They broke both of them with the most recent release. iTunes still has trouble updating applications, and an additional bug with the desktop shortcut. Quicktime doesn't even launch, and according to Apple's support forums, I'm not the only one with this problem. (This is on a Vista 64-bit system)
 
Excuse my ignorance folks - I thought push was already out? It works on my iPhone and Mail (sometimes better than others)
I'm kinda confused now. :confused:

A couple of real issues I see now are: Lag when browsing contacts, poor battery life (below expectations), and random app crashes (Safari, iPod)
 
Excuse my ignorance folks - I thought push was already out? It works on my iPhone and Mail (sometimes better than others)
I'm kinda confused now. :confused:

A couple of real issues I see now are: Lag when browsing contacts, poor battery life (below expectations), and random app crashes (Safari, iPod)

The App crashes and lag are things they are definitely working to fix. The battery life can't be helped, running applications, living in an area with poor 3G coverage, and surfing the web a lot drain it faster than tests would show. Remember, batteries are tested with absolutely perfect conditions (ie full 3G signal, etc.) so as to give maximum results.

As for the push notifications, what this is talking about is Apple's push notifications. Certain e-mail providers, namely Yahoo Mail, have their own dedicated push servers. Other applications, like MobileChat3 do too. Apple on the other hand is talking about implementing a push service so that apps like AIM, Palringo, and Facebook can get the same effect Yahoo Mail and MC3 (supposedly, there has been some hiccups with MC3) already have created through their own personal servers.
 
Pretty obvious this means they're going nuts to get 2.1 out as soon as possible to deal with all the software bugs and reception issues. 2.2 is probably what will come out end of September with the push notification service.
 
Pretty obvious this means they're going nuts to get 2.1 out as soon as possible to deal with all the software bugs and reception issues. 2.2 is probably what will come out end of September with the push notification service.

lots of the software bugs are fixed. Zero change in reception quality so far though :( maybe beta 5.
 
Perhaps Push Notification Service is complete and they pulled it from the newest beta because they have no more need to mess with it and are now focusing on other issues/upgrades. I think it might be an unlikely possibility but a possibility nonetheless.
 
i can hear the cheering already!

I can't wait to read all the disappointed posts when people realize 2.1 is just more bug fixes and minor additions. What people are asking for (video capture and MMS) isn't going to happen this time around. Maybe in the future, but it's really unlikely they are going to waist time adding major features when they have so many current problems. Cut and paste is a maybe, I've heard rumors floating around about that for a while, but there really is no evidence any which way whether or not it's going to come out. Don't get your hopes up people, Apple pulling push notifications is just evidence they are CUTTING features, not ADDING them. It is in fact more likely that they dropped more features along with push, just that push was the biggest and they didn't bother to mention their plans to toss in video recording or MMS or even cut/paste were cut at the last minute as well.
 
As long as they fix those bugs. I'm still using 1.1.4 after hearing/seeing all the issues of 2.0/2.0.1. I care more about stability than the app store/other niceities
 
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