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iPhone 2.1 Beta 4 Seeded, Removes Push Notification Service
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Push doesn't matter too much for me since I use gMail. I'd much rather have more stability fixes.
Maybe even for gMail to support push... Now that is dreaming.
Maybe even for gMail to support push... Now that is dreaming.
Sounds to me like Push may well be coming in September as planned, but Apple wants to release 2.1 before then
In other words, whatever 2.1 brings is coming SOONER than expected, instead of waiting for Push to be ready in September.
Only a guess.
I agree. Push Notification is not the only new API stuff they've removed which seems to confirm your guess
Well good...but push notification stuff they are adding has NOTHING to do with mail or gmail it may help you but you don't know it.
I said this when they announced the Push service - its going to suck battery life WORSE than push mail. And I've had a number of friends tell me that push email sucked battery life pretty hard (and have since disabled push email).
It was a bad idea and Apple should have either shipped a better battery, switched to Broadcom's BCM HSPA chipset (fabbed at 65nm and uses less juice), or just not offered it in the first place.
It was a bad idea and Apple should have either shipped a better battery, switched to Broadcom's BCM HSPA chipset (fabbed at 65nm and uses less juice), or just not offered it in the first place.
meh, who cares... fix the 3G reception problem or give me landscape email and texting. not to mention copy and paste.
MMS is dead, heck if Apple could have gotten away with it even SMS wouldn't have been on the phone. Get a third party MMS solution from the App Store and quit whinning already.
Yet another disappointment. Why am I not surprised that I am not surprised... this has gotten long since predictable.
Nice goin Apple.
Nice goin Apple.
Makes sense.
It was probably something tagged to be managed by the rebellious and ineffectual I&ST department - Eddie Cue probably took a look at it and simply said 'not ready'
It was probably something tagged to be managed by the rebellious and ineffectual I&ST department - Eddie Cue probably took a look at it and simply said 'not ready'
I am looking at my desktop email and there are 3 unread messages. I look at my iPhone (push on, mobileme mail) and there are no-unread messages.
My wifes iPod touch doesnt always push out changes to the calendar made offline when she goes online (I assume it should push as soon as a connection is made)
Looks like they have stuff to resolve....
My wifes iPod touch doesnt always push out changes to the calendar made offline when she goes online (I assume it should push as soon as a connection is made)
Looks like they have stuff to resolve....
People confuse Mail push with the Notification Service that Apple announced for the iPhone. This service will be used by applications to trigger events on the iPhone. For example, an instant messaging application will be triggered to open if an incoming message comes. The app needs to be written in a way that supports the new API and contact the Apple Notification Server that will trigger the event on the iPhone.
Push has nothing to do with that!
Push has nothing to do with that!
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The issue is this is a developer release and if you're a developer who has been working on an app based on the notification API you are left in limbo
You can't even continue to work with the third beta because there is no guarantee the API will come back the same.
Johnnnny said:
The issue is this is a developer release and if you're a developer who has been working on an app based on the notification API you are left in limbo
You can't even continue to work with the third beta because there is no guarantee the API will come back the same.
MMS really?
MMS is a multi billion dollar revenue stream to the mobile operators. I'm sure they are all screaming that iPhone can't handle something this simple that is part of the 3GPP standards for a 3G phone.
Even the crappiest 5 year old Motorola can do MMS and yet the iPhone can't. I think Apple has their priorities in the wrong order.
Of course it might be that the iPhone makes up such a small part of the total market they don't care about the lost revenue from all those MMS based services.
MMS is a multi billion dollar revenue stream to the mobile operators. I'm sure they are all screaming that iPhone can't handle something this simple that is part of the 3GPP standards for a 3G phone.
Even the crappiest 5 year old Motorola can do MMS and yet the iPhone can't. I think Apple has their priorities in the wrong order.
Of course it might be that the iPhone makes up such a small part of the total market they don't care about the lost revenue from all those MMS based services.
I don't know about this 'push' thing, but what bothers me about the whole 'app' situation...
It seems like Apple is free to write apps that tie very nicely in with the Iphone...
However, look at relatively simple apps like Pandora. Why can't it run in the background? Why can't there be exceptions? Apple claims that to do that would waste battery. So what? Let me make that choice. Apple wants to maintain too much control over the user experience at the expense of functionality here.
Be honest, wouldn't you love to be able to stream audio via AOL Radio or Pandora, while continuing to do other things... like browsing the web or writing an email? The hardware is fully capable of this, it's artificial limiations imposed by Apple preventing us from using it to their full extents.
Unfortunately there is no other device that touches the Iphone, so we're currently at Apples mercy here... However, I'm pretty certain THAT kind of functionaly is going to surface on another device and apple will then have no choice but to loosen its grip.
It seems like Apple is free to write apps that tie very nicely in with the Iphone...
However, look at relatively simple apps like Pandora. Why can't it run in the background? Why can't there be exceptions? Apple claims that to do that would waste battery. So what? Let me make that choice. Apple wants to maintain too much control over the user experience at the expense of functionality here.
Be honest, wouldn't you love to be able to stream audio via AOL Radio or Pandora, while continuing to do other things... like browsing the web or writing an email? The hardware is fully capable of this, it's artificial limiations imposed by Apple preventing us from using it to their full extents.
Unfortunately there is no other device that touches the Iphone, so we're currently at Apples mercy here... However, I'm pretty certain THAT kind of functionaly is going to surface on another device and apple will then have no choice but to loosen its grip.
Why would it be 2.1 (as opposed to 2.0.2) if it was nothing more than bug fixes? Besides, wouldn't touch owners have to pay for a .1 update?
Surely push is compng next month in 2.1. It may not be present in the current beta because they don't want to show it to all developers or they wan to do some internal testing or something.
I just wish they'd fix the variable volume problem though. I hat listening to the ipod app through the headphones but then it fadig off and not being able to hear the ringtone play because it is miles too quiet somethines through the headphones!
Surely push is compng next month in 2.1. It may not be present in the current beta because they don't want to show it to all developers or they wan to do some internal testing or something.
I just wish they'd fix the variable volume problem though. I hat listening to the ipod app through the headphones but then it fadig off and not being able to hear the ringtone play because it is miles too quiet somethines through the headphones!
Push notification is only a framework that provides additional functionality for apps that are designed to take advantage of it.
If they don't seed it to any developers, no apps can be developed ahead of it's launch which would render the whole framework pretty useless on launch...
