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After the bug fixes (Had to rebuild mine twice last weekend) and the backup time thing (Can never find the four hours needed to do it - hence the second recovery last weekend :) )

All I want before Christmas is copy and paste - it seems like such a little thing to ask for and I have been a good boy all year - Honest Santa !
 
You won't get this. Nike+ needs a hardware add on to be able to communicate with the transmitter that is on/in the shoe. iphones don't have this hardware.

The communication between the transmitter and the hardware addon is basically Bluetooth. There is a chance we will see support on the iPhone.
 
I would love to see age demographics for this forum... I'm trying to remember the last time I've heard so much damn whining about such good news. A whole mess of people here have been crying their little heads off about the instability of their iPod Touch or iPhone and now it seems like they're crying about the lack of new features--and even seem angry now that Apple has addressed the problem!

Edit: To people who are having stability problems: are you 1) not doing anything on your iPhone or iPod Touch while apps are installing? And are you 2) restarting your device after you finish your installs? By doing those two things I have cut down my problems to absolutely nothing. If I mess with it during installation it crashes and bad things happen before long. If I keep using it after app installs, including from iTunes, there are general stability problems. Once I restart, everything is golden.

If Apple pulled features to focus totally on a quality experience, I saw awesome. Thank you! I'm really excited about this. I want my iPhone to just work. Trivial features like turn-by-turn GPS navigation are far less important to me. They can come when they are ready. I'm similarly thrilled about the prospects of Snow Leopard. I buy Apple because I want a solid stable and reliable product. If Steve Jobs didn't live in his own little world I'd be worried that he might actually listen to this sort of crying.

We all know the hardware upgrades are right around the bend. We might even get a similar event dedicated specifically to Mac (given how many products are now in need of a refresh). Now that is what I'm really looking forward to.
 
- Apple announced several things today. Who said the bug fixes were supposed to be THE big thing. Some of you clearly have put your own spin on it. Please point me to anything where Apple said the bug fixes were THE big thing. I thought the event was much more about the new iPod. The bug fixed were an oh by the way type thing. An important one, but not the center of the event as some of you seem to be saying.

- If the iPhone is such a POS why couldn't you folks that are so upset figure that out in 2 weeks. If my phone was as bad as some of you say your phones are I would have returned mine long ago.

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Now that I think about it.....do you think there is a reason they are holding off on the iPhone 2.1 till Friday for a reason? It seems odd to release 2.1 for the touch and 2.1 for the iPhone a few days later....

I think they don't want a repeat of IPhone 3G launch day....where the servers got hammered.
 
It's easy for them to SAY all of this, but I'm not going to be happy until I download it and the fixes are true. They said 2.0.1 and 2.0.2 fixed things as well, but not for alot of people.

Here's hoping that 2.1 will be worth it... hmm
 
I would love to see age demographics for this forum... I'm trying to remember the last time I've heard so much damn whining about such good news. A whole mess of people here have been crying their little heads off about the instability of their iPod Touch or iPhone and now it seems like they're crying about the lack of new features--and even seem angry now that Apple has addressed the problem!

Edit: To people who are having stability problems: are you 1) not doing anything on your iPhone or iPod Touch while apps are installing? And are you 2) restarting your device after you finish your installs? By doing those two things I have cut down my problems to absolutely nothing. If I mess with it during installation it crashes and bad things happen before long. If I keep using it after app installs, including from iTunes, there are general stability problems. Once I restart, everything is golden.

If Apple pulled features to focus totally on a quality experience, I saw awesome. Thank you! I'm really excited about this. I want my iPhone to just work. Trivial features like turn-by-turn GPS navigation are far less important to me. They can come when they are ready. I'm similarly thrilled about the prospects of Snow Leopard. I buy Apple because I want a solid stable and reliable product. If Steve Jobs didn't live in his own little world I'd be worried that he might actually listen to this sort of crying.

We all know the hardware upgrades are right around the bend. We might even get a similar event dedicated specifically to Mac (given how many products are now in need of a refresh). Now that is what I'm really looking forward to.

Since it's apparently not completely obvious to some people the reason why everyone is "crying" is because Apple told reporters that this event was an uncharacteristically "big deal" then released nothing unexpected or even of great interest. I'm sorry you don't seem to care about that, but most of the world does. Most people are sick of the cult like following Apple has and is going to criticize them when they pander like that and fail to deliver.

I have an iPhone and agree that I would like some stability updates. That being said I have 20 some applications and my backups generally take under a minute so I don't really have the earth shattering problems most have. I also haven't had very many lag problems since 2.0.2 and have had no more or less crashes for Safari since 1.0.0 (that is, it has always crashed because it's just flat out not very well done).

I just can't stand the double standard. Apple clearly hyped this event something fierce and all the delivered was some new mechanism that will allow them to make more money (Genius playlist). If this was Microsoft people would piss and moan constantly for releasing a buggy product and then spending time developing things to make more money.

Apple needs to fix their bugs, deliver on their promises, and not make needless hype. They may have done the first with this new update, but without push notifications this month they've failed on the second two. However, I would expect that push notifications will come this month and that we'll get the best of both world. Now, if they could stop hyping every damn thing they do maybe we'd be onto something.
 
Update to the iphone...really? No hidden features?

Am i the only one on the planet who has no problems with the iphone 3g?! No crashes, no hour long backup times. I have some slow typing when it comes to sms but really no complaints.

No macbooks today!?!!?! Not happy. Granted its a music oriented event but one year people. It has been a year since macbooks even seen a decent update. Not happy.:(
 
Well I'm going to guess that it's because they paid for a piece of crap. As well as paid for the opportunity to be beta testers for Apple.

Look, I love Apple products, but the company itself can eat a big one. So many people think that everything they do is gold, yet realistically the iPhone has been a joke, and this 'update' just proves it.

"hey cool, let's fix a bunch of crap that should have never been in a final public build of one of our marquee products...cool"

Please. If it was any other company they would have been crucified by now, but I'm always amazed at how much slack people give Apple.

Dude have you ever owned a Micro$oft product. :eek:
 
Am i the only one on the planet who has no problems with the iphone 3g?! No crashes, no hour long backup times. I have some slow typing when it comes to sms but really no complaints.

I've had the hour-long backups, but that's it. I've had I think one dropped call. Safari has never once crashed on me. Keyboard lag hasn't been a problem (only occurs rarely). It's been a great phone for me.
 
Well I'm going to guess that it's because they paid for a piece of crap. As well as paid for the opportunity to be beta testers for Apple.

Look, I love Apple products, but the company itself can eat a big one. So many people think that everything they do is gold, yet realistically the iPhone has been a joke, and this 'update' just proves it.

"hey cool, let's fix a bunch of crap that should have never been in a final public build of one of our marquee products...cool"

Please. If it was any other company they would have been crucified by now, but I'm always amazed at how much slack people give Apple.

Dude, if you read the Engadget feed, SJ spent about a minute on this. He didn't big it up, he didn't 'sell' it like it was a feature that we should rush to congratulate them on, he just said, "The update's coming out Friday, it'll fix some problems. Now, moving on..." Furthermore, he was specific about which areas it would address - dropped calls, apps stability, battery life - all things that have been the main beef of posters on this forum, and no doubt, countless others, including Apple's own. I was disappointed today, because Apple implored journos to attend a 'big deal' event, but not because of this. If there's some additional functionality on Friday, great, but otherwise, I'll be happy that they've devoted their limited bandwidth over the last three or four weeks on solving widespread, repeatable problems. Don't knock it.

By the way, other companies don't get crucified. People have sucked it up with M$ products for years. If Dell, Toshiba or Sony release a sack o'crap, it gets a brief paragraph on business page 5 and never gets mentioned again. Apple has an extremely vocal audience, and they themselves court the media, so they get bad publicity as well as good publicity. I can't think of another company that gets scrutinised like they do, every minute of every day. It someone farts, it's front page news.
 
By the way, other companies don't get crucified. People have sucked it up with M$ products for years. If Dell, Toshiba or Sony release a sack o'crap, it gets a brief paragraph on business page 5 and never gets mentioned again. Apple has an extremely vocal audience, and they themselves court the media, so they get bad publicity as well as good publicity. I can't think of another company that gets scrutinised like they do, every minute of every day. It someone farts, it's front page news.

Spot on! These whiners just whine because they got a forum!
 
I've had the hour-long backups, but that's it. I've had I think one dropped call. Safari has never once crashed on me. Keyboard lag hasn't been a problem (only occurs rarely). It's been a great phone for me.

The slow keyboard is enough by itself to drive me insane. If the new firmware fixes it, I'll be happy. But it happens all the time in emails and SMS to me, enough that I have honestly craved a hardware keyboard at times.
 
I can understand why people are complaining. This news really isn't all that exciting.

Who doesn't have an ipod touch these days?? I don't see enough incentive to jump on the band wagon and buy new ones. At the end of the day it plays music. Like why buy a new refrigerator when the old one keeps your food just as cold?

iPhone people got shafted! Steve did a blanket sweep of the iPhone update. Hardly anything was mentioned. I feel like its bad form for Apple to announce push application support at the last event and for them not to follow through with it by the end of the month.

Speed things up Apple. :rolleyes:
 
I'm reserving judgement until we actually have 2.1 on our iPhones. That is a pretty bold statement to claim no more app crashes and improved stability. With 2 updates thus far they have been unable to do neither. Now all of a sudden they have the "magic key"?

We'll see.
 
Woah. Some folks just need to chill. I mean really, when did Mac users become so whiney. "AAAAAH. I didn't get what I want." They made some nice announcements today. News hardware, upgraded software. Brilliant products. Enjoy and appreciate the fantastic things you have and life will be a lot better. Really.

Thanks to Apple for making such amazing products that make my life better!
 
Looks like iPod touch 2.1 firmware is available for download... Sucks that iPhone owners have to wait til Friday. :(

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/softwareupdate.html

Has anyone confirmed you can update the touch today? I assume that's just to purchase the ability to download 2.x updates for your iTunes account.

I think the most obvious reason that they would release it on Friday is because they released iTunes 8.0 today. Apple is big, but even the biggest companies can have their networks/servers slow down under heavy demand. Also, iTunes is used by more than just apple users since its a free media player. I starteed using iTunes before I even had my first iPod.

Also, I'm sure the 8.0 update will be required for installing 2.1 firmware to the touch and iphone so another reason to let everyone get iTunes and then release the firmware update a few days later.
 
I'm reserving judgement until we actually have 2.1 on our iPhones. That is a pretty bold statement to claim no more app crashes and improved stability. With 2 updates thus far they have been unable to do neither. Now all of a sudden they have the "magic key"?

We'll see.

can't agree more! I am sick and tired of the keyboard locking up and it takes 5 f'n minutes for my SMS to open ... That's a really bold statement saying they fixed everything... I doubt it... One thing with apple updates after updates still don't fix a thing..
 
The whole idea of the push API was what really softened the blow when all of us realized you couldn't keep any of the apps open at all. I mean c'mon, how am I supposed to fully utilize some of these programs if I have to "reload, reinitialize" or whatever every time I get a phone call or a text etc. I am all for a very stable iphone firmware, but I see the Push API as a big deal, and definitely want it in the 2.1 software.
 
Kinda weird to see Steve Jobs talk about an impending software release that fixes tons of bugs and software drops and battery problems as something that he is talking about like it is something so great. Well it is b/c we would like to see a stable iphone but i mean c'mon, it just looks so bad to stand up there and have to sorta say that the iphone software was crap when it was released. It certainly doesn't inspire any kind of confidence in apple for the future.

And to stand up there and say all that and not make one announcement of ANY new feature? Really just crazy.......
 
Is there any way that Apple might have just shipped the iPhone 3G with the low powered antenna thingy? I'd be disappointed if Apple didnt!
 
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