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iPhone 2.1 Firmware Coming on Friday: Bug Fixes, Connectivity and Battery Life
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I installed it, but the app crashing fix will probably have to wait for the new iphone update. For what it's worth, the Genius feature is looking like it'll take about four hours to "gather information about my library"
It sounds like they are leaving stuff out about the iPhone everywhere. Just look at the page for the new $79 headphones,
"The remote and mic are supported only by iPod nano (4th generation), iPod classic (120GB), and iPod touch (2nd generation). Audio is supported by all iPod models."
Why the hell would there be a need for the iPod Nano and iPod Touch to use a microphone and not the iPhone. It doesn't make any sense.
"The remote and mic are supported only by iPod nano (4th generation), iPod classic (120GB), and iPod touch (2nd generation). Audio is supported by all iPod models."
Why the hell would there be a need for the iPod Nano and iPod Touch to use a microphone and not the iPhone. It doesn't make any sense.
Genius sounds great to me. Anything that has the potential to give me a few surprises is more than welcome.
With you on that one. I'm looking forward to playing around with it. I wonder if it uses the same kind of formula as the Music Genome Project/Pandora...
See this macrumors.com post...
https://www.macrumors.com/2008/09/08/lets-rock-rumor-roundup-and-expectations/
Specifically...
"We've heard that Apple is actively urging the media to cover the event claiming it will be a "big deal". While companies always want media to cover their events, this particular practice seems to be atypical for Apple. Regardless, there is always hope for additional "surprise" announcements."
Whether that was actually true or not is unknown.
Yes, I was talking about the entire announcement, not just the iPhone-related news.
I don't consider new colors and an accelerometer BIG NEWS!!!!!, sorry. And the removal of the 160 gig Classic?
iTunes 8? Good news. Genius Bar? Good news. BIG NEWS!!!!? Nope.
There was nothing in the entire press conference that was as big as they were advertising it to be.
All new Ipods in many different colors, great price drops, acceleromitor built in, New headphone desigin is not exciting new news?!?!
yes most of it was leaked however it is Big news!
Logan, its a button not a microphone....
yes, the Iphone one has a mic built in but as far as i can tell the Ipod ones is simply a button...
Joe Beta Tester!
I have always wanted to be a beta tester for Apple! It looks like I have been one all along and did not even know it!
I have always wanted to be a beta tester for Apple! It looks like I have been one all along and did not even know it!
No you won't lose your voicemails. I'm not sure what you mean about losing contacts, etc.
If you update to the latest version, you'll lose nothing. It's a beautiful thing. No worries.
they are still missing two inexcusable functions if they want to be taken seriously for business users:
cut and paste and ability to store and send documents from the phone
what a joke.
While I love my iPhone it only does 1/10th what I could do on my Treo 700wx and way less than a Treo 800w.
The hysterical thing is that my wm phone crashed about 1/20th of the time my phone has.
cut and paste and ability to store and send documents from the phone
what a joke.
While I love my iPhone it only does 1/10th what I could do on my Treo 700wx and way less than a Treo 800w.
The hysterical thing is that my wm phone crashed about 1/20th of the time my phone has.
Mixed reactions...
All this time I thought my dropped calls were an ATT thing. Does this mean the phone is flawed?
All this time I thought my dropped calls were an ATT thing. Does this mean the phone is flawed?
They TOLD people there would be a big announcement. Why are we being unreasonable in expecting a big announcement?
I can appreciate that bug fixes are good, but when the new firmware is 2.x instead of 2.0.x, we aren't being unreasonable in expecting something more than bug fixes. I'm holding out hope that there will be more in 2.1 than he mentioned, especially since it was an iPod event, after all.
Can anyone prove that Apple actually TOLD anyone that it was a huge deal? Didn't we hear these rumblings through the same rumor channels that told us that there would be turn-by-turn GPS and push notifications in the iPhone 2.1 update? Again, the only expectations were set by rumors and hearsay. THAT is why it was unreasonable for you to expect a big announcement.
Besides, just because the iPod touch and iPod nano announcements weren't big news to you, doesn't mean that it wasn't a big announcement in a general sense to Apple's business. Refreshing their offerings with new form factors, new interface revisions, and new software features is what keeps the general public (not the geeks and hardcore Mac/iPhone users who frequent these forums) coming back and buying new iPods even though they sell record numbers of them every quarter and it seems as if EVERYONE has an iPod. Plus, how else will they get the Apple-addicts on this site to continually go out and by new i-Products regardless of how many functioning ones they already own?
As far as the 2.1 iPhone update being a 2.X not a 2.0.X, who said that the 2.X increments HAD to be new features, not bug fixes? I'm pretty sure that the last time Apple added significant new features to the iPhone software was the 1.X.X line to the 2.0 upgrade. The fixes in 2.1 ARE much more significant compared to the 2.0.2, 2.0.1 updates, just in the fact that they have specified the IMPROVEMENTS this time. Like many others have so sanely noted, there are 21 days left in September, so don't get your panties in a bunch because you don't have cut-and-paste or push notifications yet. Oh, and one other thing... the update is FREE. What number they assign the software revision is so inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. They could call it 2.faster.longer.harder and it still updates they what they say it does. It'd be one thing if they were charging you for the update, but they're not. So on Friday, download it and hopefully enjoy the elimination of problems that a good majority of people here have complained about constantly for the last 2 months. If they had introduced 2.1 with all the new features that you were looking for, but the same connection, back-up time, battery life and app crashing problems still persisted, you'd all be whining and bitching that Apple has really screwed the pooch by introducing new features and not fixing all the existing problems. Talk about damned of you do, damned if you don't.
Some people compare the software numbering to OSX, saying how well new features are 10.X, and fixes are 10.X.X, so the iPhone software shouls hold the same pattern--not true. considering that the 10 part of the number is really just the name of the software, since they plan on using it for 10 years, the .X updates are really equivalent to the whole number updates (1.0 to 2.0) for the iPhone, while the 10.X.X updates are equivalent to the 2.X.X updates on iPhone. The iPhone just evolves quicker because the product has to change much much more frequently than a computer OS has to in order to stay fresh in the market. You don't hear people complaining 2 months after a release of a new version of OSX that they want new features no and not in 18 months. Different markets, different revision schedules/numbering systems.
I just don't get why people EXPECT things when Apple itself NEVER EVER EVER guarantees anything. I'm not going hardcore fanboy here, it's just something called reality. Sure, I love Apple, they make some pretty cool consumer electronics, but that's all it is- consumer electronics. Some people here act as if Apple is a family member that somehow owes it to you to continuously live up to the rumors and hype that the public creates, just because you buy their products over and over again.
I would like to make it clear that I liked what was announced today. The purple nano in particular looks really cool.
2.1 firmware for the iPhone... swweeettt. I love my iPhone but it has a couple of niggles I'd like to see the back off.
It's just that I wouldn't consider this a 'big deal' which is what some journos were led to believe. But overall I'm happy with what was released today.
WOW! My iphone still does not do the simple things that my phone from several years ago could do! You know how stupid it is logging on a website to punch in a long ass code and password to get a thumb of the original image? Video recording?
Hmm, odd cause Apple claims that it is able to record voice memos on supported iPods.
Dang beaten again!!
Stargaze, it says microphone... I'm talking about the HEADPHONES, the 79 dollar headphones.
"The remote and mic are supported only by iPod nano (4th generation), iPod classic (120GB), and iPod touch (2nd generation). Audio is supported by all iPod models."
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MA850?mco=MTcyODA3Mw
What company (including Apple) doesn't over-hype their product? You see it everywhere in every form of advertising. Apple is no different and I certainly don't take their marketing-speak as gospel. Just because they say their product is "crash-proof", it does not have me automatically believing them. As a 20-year developer, when they mentioned "crash-proof" even I rolled my eyes in disbelief. Slap any company makes those claims. But that certainly won't stop them from doing it again.
However, what they made as their first attempt was much better and certainly a much higher step up from the WinMobile and Palm folks. I've owned those as well.
If you honestly, truly believe any company can make those kinds of claims, then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. Honestly!! It's crash-proof!
What company (including Apple) doesn't over-hype their product? You see it everywhere in every form of advertising. Apple is no different and I certainly don't take their marketing-speak as gospel. Just because they say their product is "crash-proof", it does not have me automatically believing them. As a 20-year developer, when they mentioned "crash-proof" even I rolled my eyes in disbelief. Slap any company makes those claims. But that certainly won't stop them from doing it again.
However, what they made as their first attempt was much better and certainly a much higher step up from the WinMobile and Palm folks. I've owned those as well.
If you honestly, truly believe any company can make those kinds of claims, then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. Honestly!! It's crash-proof!
I didn't believe for a moment that it would be crash proof. That is why I find the responses funny.
Yes, I was talking about the entire announcement, not just the iPhone-related news.
I don't consider new colors and an accelerometer BIG NEWS!!!!!, sorry. And the removal of the 160 gig Classic?
iTunes 8? Good news. Genius Bar? Good news. BIG NEWS!!!!? Nope.
There was nothing in the entire press conference that was as big as they were advertising it to be.
If the argument is that the all of the announcements were not big news than that is fine. It's everyone arguing that they were expecting a big announcement, when all they are really complaining about is the lack of a big iPhone announcement.
There are quite a few different opinions about today's announcements.
As for me, I'm really excited that stability is coming back to the iPhone (hopefully...). Would I like to have seen some new features today too? Sure... but Apple is never going to add the features I want anyway (specifically MMS), so I guess this is good enough.
As for me, I'm really excited that stability is coming back to the iPhone (hopefully...). Would I like to have seen some new features today too? Sure... but Apple is never going to add the features I want anyway (specifically MMS), so I guess this is good enough.
2.0.X is for bug fixes + stability.
2.X is for new features.
so... where are the new features?
No apps crashing IS the new feature.