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The stock is down over 20% since I bought it, but I have renewed faith that when the time comes for my wife (I'll be long gone) to open her IRA's that investment will be worth a small fortune (in 20+ years).

I've been investing most of my life. If the physical, tangible company is growing and increasing in size, the stock MUST eventually catch up. Just hang in there.
As soon as they report earnings from the millions of iPhones, iPods, and iMacs that they've sold this quarter, the investors will see what Apple is really doing.
 
Don't make blanket statements. My phone has close to 60 apps, and I regularly had backups that took less than ten minutes. That was with 2.0, 2.0.1, and 2.0.2.

Actually, I'm trying this now, took all the apps of my phone, backed up (really quick) now putting all the apps back on and then I will attempt to back up.
A bit worried that I may need to start my Spore Origins game save again, I hope not.
 
If you have all of your important data such as address book, calendar etc. on your desktop, you may want to look into getting rid of the previous backups.
user/library/applicationsupport/mobilesync/backup is where your backups are stored. You could always delete those, reset your phone do the update.

Good luck.

I think I tried the first part of what you said, which, method of resetting should I choose, from the iPhone or Restore button in iTunes?

EDIT: No worries, I've found that the following fixes this:
that taking the apps off the iphone by unchecking sync apps
then synching
then backing up
then re-ticking sync apps in iTunes
then synching
then right clicking the iphone and selecting backup iphone from the list

Faster backups after doing the above everyone (if anyone's having trouble).
This deletes game saves though damnit. But yay!
 
Push?????

I thought 2.1 was supposed to introduce Push services for 3rd party apps? Where's AIM with Push?

Oh, and where the heck is copy and paste, video recording, and MMS?
 
My EDGE speeds absolutely piss me off. I just ran three tests on EDGE:

70 Kbps
18 Kbps
44 Kbps

I get 1-2 bars of service in my area which is pretty populated although my area is quite ghetto'ish. I wonder if that is a factor because when I lived in Wilmington, NC, I worked in an area where there is absolutely no EDGE signal and maybe 1-2 bars of service (of which was in a ghetto).

A coincidence? Hmmmmmmmmmm...

Then you need to rise up and get out of the Ghetto....even in the so called ghettos of San antonio...there is 5 bars of 3G service...are you sure you are not in the ghetto but the country ghetto?

I am just playin wit you dude. I feel your pain...but I am in San antonio which is ATT home office (till they move to dallas...) the 3G network is perfect here...and will be even better after the 2.1 update.
 
downloading and installing now...seems to be going smoothly thus far. Why are there so many replies to this thread, lol?
 
I've found that the following fixes this:
that taking the apps off the iphone by unchecking sync apps
then synching
then backing up
then re-ticking sync apps in iTunes
then synching
then right clicking the iphone and selecting backup iphone from the list

Faster backups after doing the above everyone (if anyone's having trouble).
This deletes game saves though damnit. But yay!
 
Are the Five Bars for REAL?

I updated a few hours ago and have gone on appointments in different types of buildings. I have Mobile Me, Exchange and POP3 emails.

Here is what I found:

1. For an hour or so it was unstable. Email was erratic if working at all. I was testing by sending messages between my services from a computer. I was wondering if this was some kind of joke and I should restore to 2.0.2.

2. After an hour things stabilized and began to work smoothly. That might have been due to all of the 3G activity while everyone was updating this morning.

3. The five bars seems to be a default until you actually try to make a call, receive email or use the internet. Nice mind trick - Apple! Then the actual signal is reflected in the bars going from five bars to two or one or going down to Edge.

4. The 3G drops down to Edge when there is a reception issue, or in my case whenever I walked into a building. That is better than 3G dropping off completely. Good improvement. I still received and sent emails.

5. Contacts and email keyboard all seem to have the same lag time. I have over 2,000 contacts.

6. My email used to stall out during the afternoon which made me power off/on or hold the home button for 10 seconds to clear the buffer. That problem appears to be gone.

My verdict - small improvement. It should have been called 2.0.3.

Better than before.:rolleyes:
 
Updating...

Has anyone noticed it takes less time upgrading from XP to Vista? I sure hope the backup speed has increased with this update...
 
Ever since the update i can't use safari over edge. It does nothing but over wifi its fine. After ATT just gave me the run around i think apple is going to have to replace my 3g :(
 
battery seems to be better.. they really did improve this phone NOW PUSH! =]

A Push would be great! Apple has said before that for all the 3G connectivity issues in big cities it will take everyone to update.

I got 2.1 this morning and everything's working much faster and much smoother. Good news.
 
Downloaded 2.1 first thing this a.m.. What a nice improvement! My contacts (about 3,000 of them) took up to 10 seconds to load before. I actually removed about 500 of the ones I no longer needed to see if would hel0 (it did a little). My contacts now pop-up instantly!!

Searching Contacts used to take forever as well. Usually, the first letter would take about 3-5 seconds to load, then progressively faster as contacts got narrowed down.

I bet the 2.1 update has some type of new feature that "remembers" our contacts to allow this to happen.
 
Just Do A Clean Install!!

Sheesh, people... why do a back up at all?? DL the 2.1 directly to your desktop, click RESTORE while holding down the OPTION/ALT key, chose 2.1 - go from there. You can sync what you need - contacts, mail, music etc... why back up at all? Just go clean install. :rolleyes:
 
Downloaded it this morning and it in the middle of installation I got the error (6) message, saying that operation could not complete.

I tried everything Apple says to try (another USB port, reboot, reinstall iTunes, etc.) to no avail. I also spent 45 minutes on the phone with support to end up hearing the advice to go to a Genius Bar...

Meanwhile, I have a very expensive brick on my hands and had to return to my trusty 5-year old Nokia (which I hate)...

I was using iTunes 8 on an iMac Core Duo 24".

Among other things I tried:
- Restore on another Mac computer
- Restore on a PC
- Restore on iTunes 7.7 (PC)

All for the same result: phone is dead...

What pisses me off: is it so hard for Apple to program upgrades so that everything is transfered on the iPhone and checked *before* totally wiping out the working firmware and setting???

CJ

Restore from DFU mode.
 
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