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I just stood up at my desk and started fist pumping. Everyone in my office is wondering what is wrong with me. God I'm a geek.
 
Shouldn't we add the iPad in the "Buyers Guide" on MacRumors? Now that I know this about the iPhone, I definitely won't be buying a first gen iPad.

I mean, it seems obvious that a 2nd generation iPad will be a welcomed upgrade, but now 100% certain I will hold out until the next revision.

Because of RAM?
 
All the people in this thread speaking negative about the current iPad will probably **** when the iOS 4 update arrives for it.
 
This iPad 3g of mine is showing me Apples true new rotten colors. Instead of the rainbow of ingenuity, or the bright white of genius, the logo should be crap brown.

Jobs and company are now building disposable products. I laugh when they brag about how recyclable their products are. They need to be when they build half ass products and out do them with products 4x smaller in two months. (Battery Life Excluded)

They sold these iPads knowing the following..

Camera (Facetime) would be in the iPhone 4
3g contract would become restricted within 27 days of 3g launch (What breakthrough contract)
And now the 512 Ram issue! That the iOS needs it to run efficiently (Safari needs it)

This is not the Apple I supported, and wonder if this crap continues, how many of long time users like myself will take this sort of blatant runaround/abuse.

You will likely be like most members here. You will take and you will like it. Now which shinny new product can I buy next??? :D
 
A) The A4 is still A8 single core based

B) Apple has not bought ARM. There are rumors of them buying ARM Holdings, but they are just that so far, rumors.

C) Apple did buy a company recently that had the A8 at 1 Ghz and that chip is the A4( name of the company has slipped my mind)

D) Really the Core i7 is downclocked in my 27" iMac? Speed says it is 2.8 Ghz which is the advertised speed from Intel on the specific model of the i7 used in the iMac.

The 2.8ghz imac that I own is a 3.0ghz downclocked to 2.8ghz. when I had it apart the chip itself says 3.0ghz on the heat sink. My hd2600 gpu is also under clocked from an xt to a pro. And so are last years macbook pros. Maybe you should google this for more info. There are numerous reports of under clocked chips coming from macbooks and imacs. If I felt like tearing my imac apart again I would send you a pic of my 2.8extreme that is actually a 3.0 chip. I cant speak for the quad core products because i don't have one. but all of my macs are under clocked. 2007 imac, 2008 macbook pro, late 2008 macbook have all been apart at some point or another and all had higher clock speed on the chip than what os x and apple says.

my A4 info was based on engagets article stating that it was an A9 mp chip. which is also stated in articles from wired.com and macworld.com. The only thing I can find about it being an A8 is wiki and is from jan 2010.

"A4 is a System-on-a-Chip, or SOC, that integrates the main processor [ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore i.e. Multi-Processing Core, identical to ones used in nVidia Tegra and Qualcomm Snapdragon] with graphics silicon [ARM Mali 50-Series GPU], and other functions like the memory controller on one piece of silicon – not unlike what Intel is trying to achieve with its future “Moorestown” Atom processor that debuted inside LG’s Smartphone". This quote is from Cult of mac interview with member of apple ipad design team. The A8 chip is in the iphone 3gs running at 600mhz and apple claims that the ipad and iphone 4 have a completely NEW chip in them, not old chip with a faster clock speed. According to the specs on ARM's website for the A9 chip it clocks at 1.3ghz but the ARM system that is in the A4 is clocked at 1ghz. The A4 specs on wired.com from May 21st says:
ARM Cortex A9-based architecture, modified by Apple
mulricore
1 Ghz main frequency
2 MB L2 Cache
45 nanometer process
300 milliwatt max power use
ARM NEON Processing Media Engine

And apple acquired PA semi not ARM which was my mistake. But ARM designed both A8 and A9 chips.

sorry for the one false statement about ARM being purchased by apple. PA semi was purchased by apple in 2008.
 
This is not the Apple I supported, and wonder if this crap continues, how many of long time users like myself will take this sort of blatant runaround/abuse.

I'm sorry, coming from a long time Mac user, yes it is the Apple you supported. You just realized it (see my rant a few replies above yours about don't buy first gen apple stuff).
 
Have you found the iPad to be slow? I have not. More is always good, but for me, the iPad rips.

No, but have you ever noticed that it can't cache more then one site in safari? 512mb ram will fix this, I think it's very annoying to wait everytime you switch to another site and get back, thats one reason more to wait for the ipad 2 or maybe ipad pro, I hope they relase it even this year, but i doubt it.
 
While RAM is important, *how* the device works with the RAM is also just as important. For me, the iPad works just as I would have thought it would. Remember, this is not a bloated Windows OS...
 
If anyone still has any doubt:

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Taken just a few minutes ago by me.
 
...can't make everyone happy...sometimes you are the pigeon, sometimes you are the statue...deal with it...
 
No, but have you ever noticed that it can't cache more then one site in safari? 512mb ram will fix this, I think it's very annoying to wait everytime you switch to another site and get back, thats one reason more to wait for the ipad 2 or maybe ipad pro, I hope they relase it even this year, but i doubt it.

Here is the problem, 512 is enough for you (and me), but not enough for the next guy. If Apple would have come out with 512 in the first incarnation, there are people here who would have said "why not 1GB of RAM," and listed all the reasons why they need a gig.

How many new devices come out each month that one-up the last one. Sadly, it's the world we live in.
 
While it's great that the iPhone has such good technology, I think it's pretty ridiculous that the iPad, which is being marketed as a laptop replacement, has less power than a phone.
 
512MB of Ram Rocks!!

i am so stoked about the 512MB of Ram! Damn, just made my day! especially after tuesday's fiasco about pre-ordering, although i finally did get an order to go thru on ATT's site!

I am so glad i didnt buy the first generation iPad, i will wait for the 2nd or 3rd. Hopefully Apple will let you connect your iPhone 4 to the damn thing eventually!
 
Here is the problem, 512 is enough for you (and me), but not enough for the next guy. If Apple would have come out with 512 in the first incarnation, there are people here who would have said "why not 1GB of RAM," and listed all the reasons why they need a gig.

How many new devices come out each month that one-up the last one. Sadly, it's the world we live in.

Im happy with 512 now but by the end of the year I'll wish it had 1gb. You're very right about people always wanting more to soon.
 
While it's great that the iPhone has such good technology, I think it's pretty ridiculous that the iPad, which is being marketed as a laptop replacement, has less power than a phone.

That is Apples way of selling their product. They come out with something new so fast and usually such a drastic change that you can't stand your friend having a phone that is faster and more powerful than your coveted ipad. So next year you'll certainly by the ipad 2nd gen which will 1 up the iphone 4. so on and so on. good marketing for the company, but a pain in the butt for the buyer like me who has had a new iphone every year since 07.
 
In reality, RAM is less about what a specific app has access to and how many apps can have their save state in RAM before the app is permanently terminated.

The reason why having more RAM on the iPhone 4 than the iPad doesn't matter that much is because few developers, if any, are going to design apps that run only on the iPhone and not on the iPad. And if any app is really pushing the boundaries on RAM, I question why more than 256MB, an amount that 6 years ago could easily run Windows, isn't enough for a phone app. Heck, even iMovie for the iPhone starts pushing the limits of usability because of it's small screen.

Regardless, the iPad is no lesser a device than it was 3 months ago. Claiming Apple "held back" on the specs of the iPad is silly, when it's much more likely that the specs for the iPad were locked a rather long time ago to meet a specific price point.
 
This iPad 3g of mine is showing me Apples true new rotten colors. Instead of the rainbow of ingenuity, or the bright white of genius, the logo should be crap brown.

Jobs and company are now building disposable products. I laugh when they brag about how recyclable their products are. They need to be when they build half ass products and out do them with products 4x smaller in two months. (Battery Life Excluded)

They sold these iPads knowing the following..

Camera (Facetime) would be in the iPhone 4
3g contract would become restricted within 27 days of 3g launch (What breakthrough contract)
And now the 512 Ram issue! That the iOS needs it to run efficiently (Safari needs it)

This is not the Apple I supported, and wonder if this crap continues, how many of long time users like myself will take this sort of blatant runaround/abuse.

You do realize that when Apple creates a new product, that product team is almost completely isolated from the rest of the company for a variety of reasons. The original Macintosh was conceived in a similar fashion. The iPad team and the iOS4 team were segregated.

Do you really think Apple has absolute control over what AT&T decides to do with its data plans?
 
The 2.8ghz imac that I own is a 3.0ghz downclocked to 2.8ghz. when I had it apart the chip itself says 3.0ghz on the heat sink. My hd2600 gpu is also under clocked from an xt to a pro. And so are last years macbook pros. Maybe you should google this for more info. There are numerous reports of under clocked chips coming from macbooks and imacs.

Old news, apple has done this also on some older system some years ago and did it also with video cards. Can't remember when exactly it was done now but I remember stories about this issue.

They do this because they can't keep using old chips sometimes I guess they have to move forward before they are ready so they just downgrade they systems. I am sure if you could over-clock like you can on windows side we would get some eye opening performance over the years.

But seem I have never herd of anyone making software that could do this, not even hackers.
 
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