iPhone 4 vs. Samsung Infuse 4G

[Phil A.]

Wait, I edit my question to 4.5 inch. I thought that Samsung was inch.

If the next iPhone was the same size as the Infuse 4G and it was the only iPhone available, I'd keep my iPhone 4 until it was completely obsolete. At that time, I'd see if Apple had come to their senses and made the iPhone smaller. If not, then I'd probably no longer be an iPhone user.
Of all the mobile OSs, iOS is by far my favourite, but it's no good to me if it's wrapped up in a giant sized monstrosity that won't easily fit in my pocket and can be used with one hand.

I've been there already with this

And don't intend going back to using a brick

 

[iApples]

Here is a speed test between the two.

The iPhone 4 got a higher download speed than the Infuse, but the Infuse got a just slightly higher upload speed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CvG3Z3fPPk&feature=feedu

Those results from the Infuse are nothing to be proud of.

 

[blairh]

Here is a speed test between the two.

The iPhone 4 got a higher download speed than the Infuse, but the Infuse got a just slightly higher upload speed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CvG3Z3fPPk&feature=feedu

Those results from the Infuse are nothing to be proud of.

In my home/office I'm always on wifi so the network doesn't really matter as much for me personally. And honestly if I got the Infuse it be for that screen versus how much faster it is or isn't compared to my iPhone 4.

Looking forward to what reviews have to say about the battery life, etc.

 

[ap3604]

Now that Android has a streaming Netflix application I might end up purchasing the Infuse 4g...

I'm outside alot and love how the SuperAMOLED+ screens have almost zero glare (hell if it was up to me all phone screens would be matte instead of glossy). To me its the difference between reading on an iPad vs a Kindle. MUCH easier on the Kindle while outside in sunlight. Of course you can max out your brightness on the iPhone in order to see things, but that is a problem since that chews up the battery life as well as heats up / degrades your battery over time.

 

[JD914]

I'll dump iPhone like a psycho girlfriend if they disappoint like they did with iPhone 4. The Infuse is an amazing device.

 

[rockyroad55]

Now that Android has a streaming Netflix application I might end up purchasing the Infuse 4g...

I'm outside alot and love how the SuperAMOLED+ screens have almost zero glare (hell if it was up to me all phone screens would be matte instead of glossy). To me its the difference between reading on an iPad vs a Kindle. MUCH easier on the Kindle while outside in sunlight. Of course you can max out your brightness on the iPhone in order to see things, but that is a problem since that chews up the battery life as well as heats up / degrades your battery over time.

iPad vs. Kindle? Sounds like a commercial I saw yesterday. Haha

*grin* Actually, I do understand quite well.

Often I wake up with my spouse laying under one arm. So I have to use the iPod touch I keep by the bed with just one hand.

I must say, though, when using a touchscreen one-handed I quite often miss having a separate cursor/trackpad. Flicking with a thumb often accidentally chooses an item. Not to mention that it covers up the screen.

It would be very useful if the iOS home button could also double as a surface trackpad as is done on some other phones. You wouldn't have to use it, but boy when you need it, it's great to be able to scroll by moving your thumb only a fraction of an inch over a button and not all over the screen.

I don't know if you have ever encountered this, but don't you hate it when sometimes the base of your thumb selects something that your thumb didn't even touch?

 

[daneoni]

If the iPhone5 did have a 5" screen, everyone would say it is "just right"

That's not true at all. You don't know what you're talking about. I would not purchase a 5 inch screen. I'm sure the majority wouldn't either.

So my question is, If every iPhone from here on out had a 5 inch screen, no one would buy it? Yeah right.

Can't speak for everyone, but I wouldn't buy it.

I wouldn't buy it either. I'd either stick with my existing iPhone or switch to webOS. If i wanted a 5" device i'd have gotten a Dell Streak.

Max screen size should not exceed 4.0". It's a phone not a mini-tablet or a sushi tray.

 

[Vegastouch]

Android needs a Netflix streaming app in the worst way

SuperAMOLED+ at 4.5 inches is absolutely beautiful though...

The screen is 4.3"

That phone is HUGE. The iPhone feels big in my pocket when I'm wearing shorts with smaller pockets. I can just imagine this thing...

I love how you are able to use the iPhone with one hand for basically everything. Aside from some games. I could not see myself using this phone with one hand. And I have pretty large hands.

I can use my Vibrant with one hand no problem and i dont have real big hands. That GS2 is slightly wider than the Vibrant. (2.54" to 2.6")

 

[ap3604]

The screen is 4.3"

You are probably thinking of the HTC Inspire at 4.3"

The Samsung Infuse 4g is 4.5"

 

[Vegastouch]

You are probably thinking of the HTC Inspire at 4.3"

The Samsung Infuse 4g is 4.5"

I thought you were talking about the Galaxy S2. That is 4.3"....my mistake. Man i think 4.3" is about as big as i would want to go without the phone being too big. The Galaxy S2 is slightly bigger than my Vibrant. Thats big enough, no more!

The infuse is 5.2” x 2.8” x .35” compared to the Galaxy S2 4.9" x 2.6 x 0.33" Infuse is too big for my taste.

 

[rockyroad55]

I'm actually looking at the Infuse now since my upgrade is tomorrow, but I might end up getting the refurb iPhone 16GB for $99.

Still doing research now on the Infuse, however. The only thing that worries me is the dev support on it because the Atrix was locked.

 

[Vegastouch]

I'm actually looking at the Infuse now since my upgrade is tomorrow, but I might end up getting the refurb iPhone 16GB for $99.

Still doing research now on the Infuse, however. The only thing that worries me is the dev support on it because the Atrix was locked.

Motorola is harder for Dev support but Samsung leaks ROM info all the time for Devs and is why there are many custom ROMs out for it.

 

[ap3604]

Motorola is harder for Dev support but Samsung leaks ROM info all the time for Devs and is why there are many custom ROMs out for it.

I agree that Samsung is better than Moto for Dev support. Only problem is that there isn't a single real forum for the Infuse 4g yet

Not anything on Xda and only 20 total threads on AndroidForums. WTF?

 

[rockyroad55]

I agree that Samsung is better than Moto for Dev support. Only problem is that there isn't a single real forum for the Infuse 4g yet

Not anything on Xda and only 20 total threads on AndroidForums. WTF?

Maybe it hasn't been officially released to the public until tomorrow? I just wish Samsung would build phones with better materials than plastic. Heck, doesn't the glass of the Infuse provide the most weight?

 

[Vegastouch]

Maybe it hasn't been officially released to the public until tomorrow? I just wish Samsung would build phones with better materials than plastic. Heck, doesn't the glass of the Infuse provide the most weight?

iPhone was built with plastic a couple times. Id rather have plastic that have that china doll glass. I put a case on all mine anyways and all the glass does besides break easy is add weight. HTC isnt built any better imo. Either way it is getting a case and i dont care about those lame kickstands. I still have my iPhone 2G which is in mint condition and my Vibrant is much lighter.

 

[Zapak]

Im a long time android user (G1, mytouch, Samsung Galaxy S, Nexus S, myTouch 4G) here are my thoughts:

- Super Amoled is great for video and games, awful for text. I would say retina beats it overall.

The display on the Galaxy 2 / Infuse / Charge all use SAMOLED-plus screens, which is different than the original SAMOLED screens seen on all of Sammy's older OLED handsets.

Likely Samsung's fault for not marketing the newer screens properly, or making it clear why text looked like **** on their older screens, there's a good deal of misinformation over the clarity of OLED vs the iPhone 4's high res display.

SAMOLED uses a pentile matrix LED. Google "Nexus One Pentile" for an in depth explanation as to why this sucks, but ultimately there are fewer subpixels (8 to each pixel), and more green than blue or red subpixels, causing the actual resolution of the Nexus one / Original Galaxy to be 653x392 rather than 800x480 as advertised. LCD's can use a Pentile matrix as well, the Atrix 4g uses a pentile screen. It's effective resolution is much lower than the stated 960x540

The way the pentile formation attempts to process diagonal lines causes it to be even worse than it's effective resolution at displaying high contrast images like text (it uses a dithering effect, and a number of filters to display lines), and better at video. Words tend to look jagged and blurry. I found text to be worse on the Nexus than my 480x320 3GS.

SAMOLED-Plus uses a conventional stripe matrix and looks as good as any 800x480 LCD (Droid, Evo, etc), perhaps even better since OLED is such a sexy beast on its own.

While the Galaxy 2/ Infuse still fall short of the iPhone 4's high res display, they should still look sharp, and will be excellent for text. Around 50% sharper than the display on the Galaxy 1.

 

[jman800]

Coming from a Droid X which has a similar size screen, after awhile you really don't notice the size anymore and consider it a average size screen. However, when you grab a iPhone or other smartphone with a smaller screen, it seems unbearably small.

This effect goes away though, sold my X to get a an iPhone 4.

A big reason I switched to an iPhone was because of the stability of the OS, but thats a whole other story

 

[rockyroad55]

iPhone was built with plastic a couple times. Id rather have plastic that have that china doll glass. I put a case on all mine anyways and all the glass does besides break easy is add weight. HTC isnt built any better imo. Either way it is getting a case and i dont care about those lame kickstands. I still have my iPhone 2G which is in mint condition and my Vibrant is much lighter.

True, but the Infuse has a cheap plastic back which makes me think it is made of cheap plastic haha. At least the iPhone 3G/3GS plastic was the nicer type.

 

[ap3604]

Every review I've read says the Infuse 4g has great build quality, including the back plate.

The screen and camera have also been called the best of any current smartphone to date.

 

[rockyroad55]

Every review I've read says the Infuse 4g has great build quality, including the back plate.

The screen and camera have also been called the best of any current smartphone to date.

I meant the back plate looks flimsy so much that it can probably be accidentally split apart if removed the wrong way. I'll have to try this phone in store tomorrow.

 

[ap3604]

I meant the back plate looks flimsy so much that it can probably be accidentally split apart if removed the wrong way. I'll have to try this phone in store tomorrow.

Ah gotcha

I'll try it out myself as well tomorrow and report back the results.

 

[Vegastouch]

True, but the Infuse has a cheap plastic back which makes me think it is made of cheap plastic haha. At least the iPhone 3G/3GS plastic was the nicer type.

LOL...right, while everybody was complaining of the small cracks in them plus light loss/leakage. They werent any different. Everyone just wants to think Apple is different.

Dont get me wrong, i like Apple products but the fact is they are overpriced compared to others and that has always been Apples downfall. And im talking about their computers, laptops. Their phones are on par with everyone imo and i like em but Android just is more to my liking in the overall picture.

I used to work at the Apple campus in Cupertino, CA so i can appreciate how they do things and how they go about their business but there are just other phones that are imo better but that doesnt mean Apple dont make good products because they do. Just too pricey.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

The display on the Galaxy 2 / Infuse / Charge all use SAMOLED-plus screens, which is different than the original SAMOLED screens seen on all of Sammy's older OLED handsets.

Likely Samsung's fault for not marketing the newer screens properly, or making it clear why text looked like **** on their older screens, there's a good deal of misinformation over the clarity of OLED vs the iPhone 4's high res display.

SAMOLED uses a pentile matrix LED. Google "Nexus One Pentile" for an in depth explanation as to why this sucks, but ultimately there are fewer subpixels (8 to each pixel), and more green than blue or red subpixels, causing the actual resolution of the Nexus one / Original Galaxy to be 653x392 rather than 800x480 as advertised. LCD's can use a Pentile matrix as well, the Atrix 4g uses a pentile screen. It's effective resolution is much lower than the stated 960x540

The way the pentile formation attempts to process diagonal lines causes it to be even worse than it's effective resolution at displaying high contrast images like text (it uses a dithering effect, and a number of filters to display lines), and better at video. Words tend to look jagged and blurry. I found text to be worse on the Nexus than my 480x320 3GS.

SAMOLED-Plus uses a conventional stripe matrix and looks as good as any 800x480 LCD (Droid, Evo, etc), perhaps even better since OLED is such a sexy beast on its own.

While the Galaxy 2/ Infuse still fall short of the iPhone 4's high res display, they should still look sharp, and will be excellent for text. Around 50% sharper than the display on the Galaxy 1.

I might like to point out that you got things a little wrong.

Nexus 1 used a RGBG Pentil set up so yes it had slightly lower res.
Now the Galaxy S, Nexus 2, G2S, Infused and yes the Matrix all use Pentil but it is not the same design. The Infused for example has 12 sub pixels per pixel. Atrix uses a for mate that has 2G, 2R and 1 large blue sub pixel per pixel. This means that they run at full resolution. Add to that the how Pentil is based on the set up of the human eye it really can make it appear that it is even at a higher res in terms of quality. Figure figured I would do that minor correction on this.

 

[Bonds79]

Samsung Infuse 4G. Available 5.15.11 in the States.

As a current iPhone 4 owner I won't make a decision about my next phone until we see what iPhone 5 entails this fall. However, I love the screen on the Infuse (4.5"). The Infuse is also thinner than the iPhone 4 and equal in weight.

Granted their are other factors to consider (Android of course, etc) but I want to play with this model when I can locally. 3.5" screen of the iPhone is just too small for me.

Played with the Verizon LTE version of this phone today. it was cool, it was called the Droid Super Charge
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/02/droid-charge-review/

 

[Zapak]

I might like to point out that you got things a little wrong.

Nexus 1 used a RGBG Pentil set up so yes it had slightly lower res.
Now the Galaxy S, Nexus 2, G2S, Infused and yes the Matrix all use Pentil but it is not the same design. The Infused for example has 12 sub pixels per pixel. Atrix uses a for mate that has 2G, 2R and 1 large blue sub pixel per pixel. This means that they run at full resolution. Add to that the how Pentil is based on the set up of the human eye it really can make it appear that it is even at a higher res in terms of quality. Figure figured I would do that minor correction on this.

I might like to point out that you got things a little wrong.

Nexus 1 used a RGBG Pentil set up so yes it had slightly lower res.
Now the Galaxy S, Nexus 2, G2S, Infused and yes the Matrix all use Pentil but it is not the same design. The Infused for example has 12 sub pixels per pixel. Atrix uses a for mate that has 2G, 2R and 1 large blue sub pixel per pixel. This means that they run at full resolution. Add to that the how Pentil is based on the set up of the human eye it really can make it appear that it is even at a higher res in terms of quality. Figure figured I would do that minor correction on this.

Not sure where you're getting your information from. In researching the Infuse / Galaxy 2, I found that confusion over Pentile / OLED, and relative Sharpness is widespread.

The Atrix actually uses an RGBW Pentile display with drawbacks similar to the RGBG Pentile Matrix used on the Nexus One, all models of the Galaxy 1, and the rest of Samsung's older OLED displays. The extra White pixel results in less color banding and a brighter image. No matter how you slice it though, the Pentile screens are missing a third of their subpixels when put against an everyday LCD.

Infuse, Galaxy 2, and all of the SAMOLED-Plus displays do not use a Pentile matrix. Sammy opted to go with a Stripe matrix instead, which is the same setup as a conventional RGB LCD, with 12 subpixels per pixel. Only in OLEDy goodness form.

I will grant you that Pentile displays are able to display images and video more clearly than their effective resolution, due to the way the Pentile matrix is configured, and how images are displayed. However, it's for the same reason that they tend to render text worse than their effective resolution.

Honestly, I'm not knocking pentile displays. They have their pros and cons. The Atrix QHD Pentile LCD, alongside the AMOLED screens can be gorgeous. But their stated resolution is dishonest. Some people notice the Pentile effect more than others, I found it rather hard to use the Nexus One. My friend happily uses the Captivate and hardly sees it. Either way, if I buy a chunk of hardware based on developer specs, I damn sure want to know more about the tech they're using. Because Sammy wasn't more forthright, the pentile matrix has given OLED screens a reputation of poor text resolution. Which just isn't true.

Pentile Displays

Super AMOLED Plus

Good writeup of Pentile's pros and cons