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A more fair comparison would be between the future iPhone 4S/5 and another Android phone within the same release date don't you think?

I mean, why compare a 10 month old phone with one that just recently just came out? It's pure nonsense
 
A more fair comparison would be between the future iPhone 4S/5 and another Android phone within the same release date don't you think?

I mean, why compare a 10 month old phone with one that just recently just came out? It's pure nonsense

I agree but since Apple only releases 1 new phone per year, it will get comparisons. You can bet the iP5 or whatever it is going to be called will get the comparisons as well. I dont expect Apple to be much more than what is being released right now from Android. I think the time table is up for Apple to be adding new things and it is in production and Android is still working on new phones.
 
A more fair comparison would be between the future iPhone 4S/5 and another Android phone within the same release date don't you think?

I mean, why compare a 10 month old phone with one that just recently just came out? It's pure nonsense

not really considering the iPhone 5 is 5 months away. Might of been if it was released in end of June but now that it is pushed does not really help Apple's case.

Right now the iPhone 4 is mid life so it has to compete head to head with new devices coming out.
 
Now that Android has a streaming Netflix application I might end up purchasing the Infuse 4g...

I'm outside alot and love how the SuperAMOLED+ screens have almost zero glare (hell if it was up to me all phone screens would be matte instead of glossy). To me its the difference between reading on an iPad vs a Kindle. MUCH easier on the Kindle while outside in sunlight. Of course you can max out your brightness on the iPhone in order to see things, but that is a problem since that chews up the battery life as well as heats up / degrades your battery over time.

Might want to hold off until it's actually compatible with the Infuse. Right now the Netflix Android app only works with a handful of devices (which is incredibly lame).

Given it a lot of thought this past week (plus read any review of the Infuse I found online). I'm just really happy with iOS at this point and don't see any advantage to moving onto Android. I'm also confident we will see a 64 GB flavor in the iPhone 4S this fall, which is reason enough for me to upgrade.
 
Might want to hold off until it's actually compatible with the Infuse. Right now the Netflix Android app only works with a handful of devices (which is incredibly lame).

Given it a lot of thought this past week (plus read any review of the Infuse I found online). I'm just really happy with iOS at this point and don't see any advantage to moving onto Android. I'm also confident we will see a 64 GB flavor in the iPhone 4S this fall, which is reason enough for me to upgrade.

xda devs already have solved the problem and have a work around. Made a netflex APK that lacks a device check so it will work great.
 
xda devs already have solved the problem and have a work around. Made a netflex APK that lacks a device check so it will work great.

I've been looking for this on Xda. The only threads I found say you have to root. Do you have a link to the Xda thread that has the netflix.apk which lacks the device check please? :)
 
I've been looking for this on Xda. The only threads I found say you have to root. Do you have a link to the Xda thread that has the netflix.apk which lacks the device check please? :)

not off hand. I have to back and dig threw some other threads that had the link and yes it required root access to pull it off but rooting your phone is fairly easy. big time if you use gingerbreak.
 
Samsung Infuse 4G. Available 5.15.11 in the States.

As a current iPhone 4 owner I won't make a decision about my next phone until we see what iPhone 5 entails this fall. However, I love the screen on the Infuse (4.5"). The Infuse is also thinner than the iPhone 4 and equal in weight.

Granted their are other factors to consider (Android of course, etc) but I want to play with this model when I can locally. 3.5" screen of the iPhone is just too small for me.

So it was a boring rainy day today. And so me and roommate hung out at the mall and visited the AT&T store (mainly cause they had an actual store where as Verizon had a kiosk and the salespeople are always super aggressive at kiosks so we just avoid those). The Infuse was one of the only two decent looking Android phones they had on display (I wanted to get a more fair comparison. BTW, what's the deal with the Motorola Flipout thingy? That thing looked awful, cheaply made - the hinge on it was already loose, and form just sucked. I know it was a free phone but the other free phone right by it looked a helluva lot more useful in form).

I think the screen size alone ruled that one out (my roommate decided the only one that looked even somewhat worthy of considering was the Atrix).

But here's the thing. That phone is so wide it feels very awkward in your hand. And good luck using it one handed as your fingers are already stretched to hold the thing, no wrapping hands around and stretching a finger around to be able to reach all of the screen.

The big screen gave it a horrible form.

I'll take my smaller screen and better fit in my hand over the larger screen and less usable (sure, better to look at but I like being able to use my phone one handed, it comes in handy a lot and the extra screen space really doesn't give you that much more).

I still don't get why everyone wants a larger screen(phone). You're not getting much more display area but you are making the phone more unwieldy to hold especially if you are trying to use it with one hand.
 
So it was a boring rainy day today. And so me and roommate hung out at the mall and visited the AT&T store (mainly cause they had an actual store where as Verizon had a kiosk and the salespeople are always super aggressive at kiosks so we just avoid those). The Infuse was one of the only two decent looking Android phones they had on display (I wanted to get a more fair comparison).

I think the screen size alone ruled that one out (my roommate decided the only one that looked even somewhat worthy of considering was the Atrix).

But here's the thing. That phone is so wide it feels very awkward in your hand. And good luck using it one handed as your fingers are already stretched to hold the thing, no wrapping hands around and stretching a finger around to be able to reach all of the screen.

The big screen gave it a horrible form.

I'll take my smaller screen and better fit in my hand over the larger screen and less usable (sure, better to look at but I like being able to use my phone one handed, it comes in handy a lot and the extra screen space really doesn't give you that much more).

I still don't get why everyone wants a larger screen(phone). You're not getting much more display area but you are making the phone more unwieldy to hold especially if you are trying to use it with one hand.

I think you'll find that the larger screens are aimed at men - that wasn't meant to sound sexist, but, ironically, men like big things too ;)
 
I think you'll find that the larger screens are aimed at men - that wasn't meant to sound sexist, but, ironically, men like big things too ;)

My roommate = male and his first reaction was way too big to be a useful form.

But maybe it's cause he's an engineer and his first thought is how practical is something.
 
My roommate = male and his first reaction was way too big to be a useful form.

But maybe it's cause he's an engineer and his first thought is how practical is something.

I have been reading the reviews and some people love them other hate them. But the reviews I have read said at first he though it was going to be too big but some how it just works and it is because of how thin the phone is. It is very pocket-able.

That being said 4.5 in to me is a little on the large size. 4in is kind of the sweet spot for me. My 4in atrix is only a hair bigger than the iPhone. It gets the larger screen by wasting a lot less space on the front.

People who liked the droidX would like this one in terms of size. Big time since it is a lot thinner and more pocketable.

For me 4-4.3 is about where I want my phone to be. Apple 3.5 is just way to small.
 
Played with an Infuse this morning. Phone feels so cheap in my hand compared to an iPhone. Screen is excellent. Makes me really want a larger screen on future iPhone's. Didn't feel too big in my hand. Probably because the phone weighs roughly equal to an iPhone.

Definitely not gonna get it however I think it's a really solid choice.
 
Samsung Infuse 4G. Available 5.15.11 in the States.

As a current iPhone 4 owner I won't make a decision about my next phone until we see what iPhone 5 entails this fall. However, I love the screen on the Infuse (4.5"). The Infuse is also thinner than the iPhone 4 and equal in weight.

Granted their are other factors to consider (Android of course, etc) but I want to play with this model when I can locally. 3.5" screen of the iPhone is just too small for me.

Looks nice but, I think the Samsung Infuse 4G looks a little big too big. I like to put things in my pocket and that would just look very bulky in my pocket.
 
Yes, too bulky for my taste, too. You can get an iPad if you want such a big screen ;)

I'd stick to the iPhone.
 
I've been using the 3GS for almost 2 years now since finally dumping Palm (they didn't upgrade their browser in 5 years!). The iPhone was by far the best thing out there 2 years ago, hands down. But my eyes are not that great and the iPad is too large to carry around in addition to my phone. I thought of getting a 7 inch tablet to carry around but I think a 4.5" phone might be the perfect compromise and a combining of two devices.
Right now I'm torn because the s2 could be out soon and is much more powerful, worth waiting for, yet, only a 4.27" screen. Since screen size is important to me, and it will replace my tablet too, I'd really like the 4.5". (I have large hands and have no problem using it 1-handed in the store.) But infuse single-core can not be upgraded to android 3 honeycomb so the upgrade path will be restricted compared to the dual-core s2. Has anyone out there compared the s2 to the infuse screens? Is there a noticeable difference going from 4.5 to 4.27? Thanks.
 
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A more fair comparison would be between the future iPhone 4S/5 and another Android phone within the same release date don't you think?

I mean, why compare a 10 month old phone with one that just recently just came out? It's pure nonsense

The comparison is fair because apple is on a long update cycle. The comparison is based on apple's current phone vs. Samsung's new phone.
 
THis comparison is unfair.

As Vegastocuh has already posted most of the bennefits of the Infuse I will add the main one which he forgot.

The Samsung runs a free open source OS instead of propietary like iOS.
 
But infuse single-core can not be upgraded to android 3 honeycomb so the upgrade path will be restricted compared to the dual-core s2. Has anyone out there compared the s2 to the infuse screens? Is there a noticeable difference going from 4.5 to 4.27? Thanks.

From what I understand, the inability to upgrade to Honeycomb via a single core duo processor is relevant to tablets and not cellphones. I think you are in the clear with the Infuse with respect to getting Honeycomb on it in the future.

I've played with 4.3" screens and now 4.5". I honestly don't think it's a big difference.
 
I wouldn't get the Infuse unless there was a way to not just root, but S/OFF the device so you can install a Cyanogen ROM, a good custom one, or a rooted vendor ROM.

HTC devices tend to be the best for this, Motorola ones the worst (only two Moto devices that easily allow custom ROMs -- the original Droid and the Xoom, most Moto roms require kexec() trickery to deal with encrypted bootloaders and signed kernels.
 
I wouldn't get the Infuse unless there was a way to not just root, but S/OFF the device so you can install a Cyanogen ROM, a good custom one, or a rooted vendor ROM.

HTC devices tend to be the best for this, Motorola ones the worst (only two Moto devices that easily allow custom ROMs -- the original Droid and the Xoom, most Moto roms require kexec() trickery to deal with encrypted bootloaders and signed kernels.

Tell you the truth. HTC is no longer going to be the best for it as they are locking down the boot loader. LG I believe is leading the pack as the best follow by Samsung.

I like how Sony plans on doing it to unlock the boot loader. It is go to their web sight and give them you serieral number and they will unlock it. This removes any warrenty on the phone but that is something anyone who puts a custom Rom on their phone understands.
 
I went to play with an Infuse once again this afternoon. The first time I felt I was rushed for time, so I really made a point to explore the phone this time, etc. Again, first time I pick it up today I immediately notice how cheap the materials of the phone feel. Very plasticky and weak. The back plate would most likely fly off if you drop this unit. Also don't think the back panel is as grippy as reviewers have made it out to be.

I visited some sites on the Infuse browser while pulling up the same sites on my iPhone simultaneously. (NY Times, Huff Post, etc.) Sites heavy on text and plenty of pictures. The Infuse of course provides you with a huge template to look at (that 1" difference is enormous in person). But the truth is the text on the iPhone was much sharper and easier to read compared to the Infuse. And the photos on the iPhone looked sharper too. I was pretty amazed. Even though the iPhone has a smaller screen, just looking at the screen itself is a much better experience on the iPhone. I think a perfect iPhone would be a 4.5" screen that keeps the sharpness of the retina display intact (and the dimensions of the current iPhone).

I could easily hold and navigate the Infuse with one hand using my thumb on that same hand, however, tapping the top of the browser in portrait mode and attempting to enter a url manually was a pain compared to the iPhone.

I'm also not a fan of the capacitive buttons on the bottom of the screen. Give me a actual button to press over a capacitive button any day of the week. It's also weird going from one home button on the iPhone to four capacitive buttons on the Infuse.

Lastly there is this weird icon that appears on the bottom right of the screen sometimes while browsing. It shows a +/- and when you tap on one side it either zooms in or out. Not sure why you'd even have this given that you can easily pinch to zoom when necessary (scrolling and pinch to zoom were smooth in my browsing). If you can't get rid of that icon that's a shame because it's really an eye sore.

So the 4.5" screen envy has subsided for me, and the truth is I still prefer the iPhone screen for what it displays versus how big it actually is.
 
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