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Look how many have already said they are fine with the iPad 2's resolution and it's no real big deal that it doesn't have retina display. Or no 4G on the next iphone is just fine with them. Seriously now. I't quite pathetic. This is why the term "iSheep" is so fitting.

Here's the thing, it's Apple. I find overall I'm happy with their products. Do they do everything I want? No, for one I'd love to have the option for a 13" MBP that has a dedicated graphics card or even a faster processor (Just cause I want a small size doesn't mean I want a low powered laptop, I have a monitor for when I have space and want a large screen).

But, in the end, their products that I've bought are what makes me happiest so I do compromise. But, it's Apple, they aren't going to do what the users say they want. They are controlling and do what they feel makes a good device, not what popular demand says, and if you can't accept that, you'll be happier with another device (no one is forcing you to buy them, in the end you gotta figure out if what they offer is what you want to pay for). They are going to do what they feel the users really want/need. I find that overall they are pretty good at figuring out what is actually important in usability in a product (not always but I have rarely been unhappy with the usefulness of their product.... quality on the other hand? I think Apple has gone downhill :( ).

For example before I had an iphone I had an ipaq (Dedicated PDA). I groused about the idea of a phone/PDA combo, I thought they should be seperate. I didn't want a huge screen for a phone to put to my head but I didn't want a small screen for my PDA (which was a big reason I was against the idea of a combo, it made the screen smaller but you still had this brick to hold to your ear). I made fun of iphone's small screen compared to my ipaq. I made fun of the lack of a SD card slot (or any sort of removable storage). I made fun of the non removable battery. I made fun of the touchscreen keyboard. I made fun of the fact that you couldn't install any new programs (this was the first iphone).

After getting the phone the smaller screen was unnoticeable in using it as a PDA but the small size made it fine for a phone, not unwieldy like I'd imagine holding a PDA to your ear might feel. I now prefer having more storage in the device and not having to switch around SD cards, it's nice everything fits in one place. The battery? Well I guess it does make the device more durable to not have it removable (that's the one thing that went flakey on my PDA, the battery door stopped latching so well) but still be nice to have the option. But you still can buy external batteries that will power the iphone. So a little clunkier answer than having a removable battery that you can replace, but you aren't just limited to that battery. When I went to look at different smartphones, at first only considering ones with keyboards, I discovered the physical keyboards were designed like crap. Tiny *recessed* keys that even my small hands (I'm a 5'1" female and my hands are proportinately sized to that, so small) had a hard time typing them without looking to pinpoint with the tip of the nail. It was easier to use the iphone's touch keyboard that had a well designed interface.

As for the apps, Apple changed that by the time I got an iphone and got well supported for it. As I said, that's one of the things that would make me change my mind, if they lost a lot of developer's support and the apps went elsewhere. Of the things I made fun of the iphone for, in hindsight, Apple's (at the time) unwillingness to let you install 3rd party apps was the only thing I think I was right on (but I will say that was a huge negative and it would make it not worthwhile to me and would really kill the usefulness of the iphone to me cause what I like most about it is that it is versatile and I can keep adding functionality to it through apps. I'm still not sure how Apple managed to sell the first iphone like that, that alone would have turned me off from considering it.
 
If true about the 4S, OK ... whatever. Dual core processor plus better camera will be nice updates, particularly if iOS5 offers some compelling updates and new features. It will sell.

More importantly, I wonder if a fall release will be part of a new iPhone release strategy. There are new android devices every month. Offering iPhone updates 2x per year might be smart for Apple. Will we now see phone updates every fall and spring? To me, that might be the biggest news in all of this.

They aren't going to put the a5 or iOS 5 in a phone carrying the iPhone 4s branding. So either the 4s is bs or the 4s is going to be a radio update to 4 to be sold to the bottom end with the 5 in the top two spots.
 
I'd be interested to see if Sprint and/or T-Mobile's unlimited pricing would change with the inclusion of the iPhone. Or will they just up their rates as the big 2 have done, or even take away unlimited.

If they were smart they would keep their existing rate plans to lure over subscribers. I'd go.
 
I don't see an actual demonstration there. I see pre-rendered concept animations. I wonder if it's really that smooth and fast in real life.

Protip: it never is.

I do like how they add cells to the table view scrolling to try and hide the lag in the system. That's kind neat. Adding it the accronym soup promo video even makes it seem like a feature.
 
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So I've waited two f***ing years for minor cosmetic updates, an A5 dual core processor (which I've already got in my iPad 2), better cameras and HSPA+ support?

What happened to the bigger screen, 64GB storage an 4G support? :/
 
all this madness about a5 processors, smart phones etc etc.

i remember when i was crazy excited to be getting polyphonic ringtones on ma nokia 3510 boiiiii !
 
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So I've waited two ********** years for minor cosmetic updates, an A5 dual core processor (which I've already got in my iPad 2), better cameras and HSPA+ support?

What happened to the bigger screen, 64GB storage an 4G support? :/
That's the 2012 iPhone 5 (as I always said). There's nothing in their T&Cs saying they must update every June. Obviously they feel the iP4 design is going to stand the test of the time (personally, it will because no other design from the Android/WP7 crowd has responded with a great design) and a minor chip update will keep customers ticking over.

iOS5 for Apple is well above any new iPhone hardware. That's expected and that'll be the key to whether they can keep the iPhone popularity going. We all know Apple like to keep the big features awaiting for a long time for the right product at the right time. No-one "needs" a bigger screen, 64GB or 4G yet. You could go get a non-Apple product with these things patched up.
 
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Anyone think two iPhones will be released?

An iPhone 5 with all new design, cameras, insides etc.. So Apple would be able to market a true 'iPhone 5'.

And a iPhone 4s with no cosmetic changes, with enhanced insides like battery/A5 etc.. , for people who like the old design, and a cheaper alternative to the 5.

Its about time Apple had some new phones in the market, the 4 is 11 months old and the 3GS is 23 months old I believe. A couple of new phones would really help against the likes of HTC, who turn out a new smartphone every couple of months.
 
Actually, some are saying that May 21, 2011 is the rapture. So this discussion is completely moot. :)

Tony

Damn. That means we won't even get to see the iPhone 5.

Don't think Steve Jobs will be pleased. Maybe he can have a quiet word with the Big Bloke Upstairs, and see if He couldn't convince Him to hold off with the fire and brimstone until after the launch....

And Lion????

The Lion of God????

NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE!!!!

:D
 
I wonder has people confirmed that the iPhone 4S will include built-in near field communications support? If it does and it's fully compatible with the Sony FeliCa standard, the iPhone 4S could single-handedly wipe out a lot of feature phones with built-in NFC now sold in Japan and South Korea.
 
I'd love a larger screen on my iPhone but it's not a deal breaker because my iPad2 takes care of those duties. At the end of the day I don't want a huge hummer phone. Over the past couple of weeks I've been able to convert 3 VERY devout Android users over to the iPhone 4 thanks in part to it's availability on Verizon. However back on topic, no cosmetic changes are needed here as the design is very quintessential. However I feel like the real game changer here is iOS 5. If they can come up with better notifications instead of popping up in the middle of the screen when I'm trying shoot out a text or e-mail it would be greatly appreciated.
 
Not surprised in the least. Apple wasn't going to redesign their most impressive piece of hardware after 1 year. For all of it's flaws the iPhone 4 is still the most well designed piece of electronics I've ever seen.

iPhone 4, 5, 10, whatever it may be, the real update this year is coming with iOs. Everyone's iPhone 4 will be new at that point.
 
Who cares if it's a 4S or 5? Just as Apple blew their lead in the PC world with the Apple II and Mac they've blown it with the iPhone. Android phones have blown by the iPhone and left Apple in the dust once again. Even if you jailbreak your iPhone you still can't get all the features you can with one of the Androids running Sense. Take a look at the new Gingerbread Droid OS with Sense 3.0 and you'll see what I mean. The Android Marketplace has caught up to the App Store in terms of the selection and quality of apps. Jobs and company has once again squandered the lead. And what's pathetic is that they still can't get the antenna right and continue to have reception problems. I couldn't believe how much better the reception was on the Android phone with the same carrier that I was getting with my old iPhone.
 
I don't see an actual demonstration there. I see pre-rendered concept animations. I wonder if it's really that smooth and fast in real life.

Protip: it never is.

That is the real deal. Look.up any hands on videos for the HTC EVO 3D or Sensation, it truly looks and works that smooth. With dual core 1.2ghz processors, and 1gb memory, running on Gingerbread code of course these new phones will be warp speed fast and smooth as hot butter, zero lag. Plus they comes with a 1750 battery, early word saying they match iPhone4 3G talk time.

HTC Sense 3.0 UI demo - hands on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjCI9CFp6ew&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
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I really like both platforms. iOS has it's benefits as does Android. Just recently I switched from my iPhone 4 to an Inspire 4G. I used it over the weekend and returned it. The battery life isn't good on that device at all.

I like the more "open source" feel of the Droid but I have way too much invested in iTunes content that I can't easily put on a Droid. I really love the feel of the Droid and the larger screens are nice.

All that being said, if the next iPhone release (whether they call it 4S or 5) should have more than an A5 chip as an upgrade. I'm probably being way too optimistic but my wishlist is 64gb, A5 and a 4.0" screen. The current form factor is perfect IMO as it's much more resilient than the previous plastic versions. I doubt we'll see a bigger screen but I think an A5 and 64gb would be a nice upgrade for the next iOS release.

I just bought a Nook Color so I can root it and have a Droid device without the extra expense of paying the non-subsidized price of a Droid phone. Can't wait to try it out, it's actually coming today.
 
Blah blah blah. You all run your mouths, and you'll run them again when the 4S is announced.

Come release date it will sell out like hotcakes.
 
Updated Hardware ! Dont b!tch about it .....

This is cool.
Every year things get better !
I'm not an Apple fanatic (hardly) but this kind "bump" would have been a giant leap forward back in the 80's
Lets not forget how cool this is.
Microsoft is doing awesome stuff, Google too !
This is fun, and it will only get better.
 
I waited months after my contract was over with a 3GS figuring I would get a 5 when it is just a minor upgrade from the 4 - pretty disappointing.

It would be nice if some of the other manufacturers would actually take advantage of this to come out with something competitive.
 
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