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There is no way anyone who buys Apple could be surprised by this. Apple has never been about getting the most for your money. Apple has always been about image. Just read the threads in any Apple forum. People here compare Apple to that of Luxury items like exotic cars while thinking every other device is a Ford. Completely delusional. Apple's biggest strength is the brand image they hold amongst shoppers, especially it's most loyal of followers (aka iSheep). These iSheep are the ones who will buy an Apple product over anything regardless of anything. If the iPhone 4 stayed exactly as is for 5yrs, there is no doubt in my mind, the people who believe Apple is the equivalent of an "exotic car" will still buy that iPhone. These people would even take an iphone 3 (if it were the only Apple phone available) over any current non Apple device. Because they honestly believe an iPhone 3 offers more in every way. I have a 3GS and I of course know it is just not the case. As I said, delusional.
 
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There is no way anyone who buys Apple could be surprised by this. Apple has never been about getting the most for your money. Apple has always been about image. Just read the threads in any Apple forum. People here compare Apple to that of Luxury items like exotic cars while thinking every other device is a Ford. Completely delusional. Apple's biggest strength is the brand image they hold amongst shoppers, especially it's most loyal of followers (aka iSheep). These iSheep are the ones who will buy an Apple product over anything regardless of anything. If the iPhone 4 stayed exactly as is for 5yrs, there is no doubt in my mind, the people who believe Apple is the equivalent of an "exotic car" will still buy that iPhone. These people would even take an iphone 3 (if it were the only Apple phone available) over any current non Apple device. Because they honestly believe an iPhone 3 offers more in every way. I have a 3GS and I of course know it is just not the case. As I said, delusional.

Just throwing this out there but why are you on this site?
 
There is no way anyone who buys Apple could be surprised by this. Apple has never been about getting the most for your money. Apple has always been about image. Just read the threads in any Apple forum. People here compare Apple to that of Luxury items like exotic cars while thinking every other device is a Ford. Completely delusional. Apple's biggest strength is the brand image they hold amongst shoppers, especially it's most loyal of followers (aka iSheep). These iSheep are the ones who will buy an Apple product over anything regardless of anything. If the iPhone 4 stayed exactly as is for 5yrs, there is no doubt in my mind, the people who believe Apple is the equivalent of an "exotic car" will still buy that iPhone. These people would even take an iphone 3 (if it were the only Apple phone available) over any current non Apple device. Because they honestly believe an iPhone 3 offers more in every way. I have a 3GS and I of course know it is just not the case. As I said, delusional.

Yeah, and there are people who will never buy Apple because they hate all things Apple. So what's your fscking point? Go buy a Playbook or Xoom while you're at it. Stockholm Syndrome.
 
any information about au, the only CDMA carrier in Japan, going to sell iPhones anytime in the future??

thank you
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There is no way anyone who buys Apple could be surprised by this. Apple has never been about getting the most for your money. Apple has always been about image. Just read the threads in any Apple forum. People here compare Apple to that of Luxury items like exotic cars while thinking every other device is a Ford. Completely delusional. Apple's biggest strength is the brand image they hold amongst shoppers, especially it's most loyal of followers (aka iSheep). These iSheep are the ones who will buy an Apple product over anything regardless of anything. If the iPhone 4 stayed exactly as is for 5yrs, there is no doubt in my mind, the people who believe Apple is the equivalent of an "exotic car" will still buy that iPhone. These people would even take an iphone 3 (if it were the only Apple phone available) over any current non Apple device. Because they honestly believe an iPhone 3 offers more in every way. I have a 3GS and I of course know it is just not the case. As I said, delusional.

Exactly, so many iSheep its not even funny. There is the EVO 3D due out next month with clearly far superior specs and better OS, Sense 3.0 UI is amazing, but the iSheep won't dare look at something without the fruit logo.
 
Exactly, so many iSheep its not even funny. There is the EVO 3D due out next month with clearly far superior specs and better OS, Sense 3.0 UI is amazing, but the iSheep won't dare look at something without the fruit logo.

I'm sorry, but you lose all credibility when you use made up words like "iSheep". Could you explain for me and the others why the OS is superior? You're also comparing a phone that comes out next month to a phone that was released 11 months ago, with an OS that is 11 months old.
 
There is no way anyone who buys Apple could be surprised by this. Apple has never been about getting the most for your money. Apple has always been about image. Just read the threads in any Apple forum. People here compare Apple to that of Luxury items like exotic cars while thinking every other device is a Ford. Completely delusional. Apple's biggest strength is the brand image they hold amongst shoppers, especially it's most loyal of followers (aka iSheep). These iSheep are the ones who will buy an Apple product over anything regardless of anything. If the iPhone 4 stayed exactly as is for 5yrs, there is no doubt in my mind, the people who believe Apple is the equivalent of an "exotic car" will still buy that iPhone. These people would even take an iphone 3 (if it were the only Apple phone available) over any current non Apple device. Because they honestly believe an iPhone 3 offers more in every way. I have a 3GS and I of course know it is just not the case. As I said, delusional.

Exactly, so many iSheep its not even funny. There is the EVO 3D due out next month with clearly far superior specs and better OS, Sense 3.0 UI is amazing, but the iSheep won't dare look at something without the fruit logo.


You guys bitter much?

Has it ever occurred to you that what you need/want out of a smartphone may be different from what some one else needs/wants and what you like may be something they either are apathetic about to downright don't want and therefore your phone of choice isn't going to be so great for them?

And as for user interface, some of that is very subjective. What you may like I may absolutely hate and vice versa.

For example, I'll tell you why I haven't looked at Android seriously except out of idle curiousity.

1. I am perfectly happy with my phone. The only thing Apple can change is usually stuff they do change with each phone (faster processor, more storage though I will admit I was disappointed in that aspect with the 4).

2. The app market is still better on iOS. That may change. But at this point unless iOS starts getting really left behind, I probably won't change cause of reason #3.

3. When I got my iphone there wasn't anything near as good on AT&T (and I preferred to stick with them believe it or not). Blackberry sux, the windows phones I saw had keyboards with such tiny little keys that even with my small fingers the iphone's touch keyboard was still better (believe me, I actually was avoiding the iphone when I was first looking at that point, I was bah humbugging Apple making a phone). Why is this relevant? Cause I've had the iphone in one variation or another since 3 years ago and I've accumulated a lot of apps for it (plus I've accumulated a lot of DRM'ed itunes and it's nice to be able to use my iphone as an ipod). At this point changing to a new system would be painful as I"d have to start over on accumulating apps. And don't tell me I should have picked a better phone then, there really was no good competition (I honestly was looking for half a year after my upgrade expired to find something to justify an upgrade).

Apple at this point would have to ruin the iphone some how (get so far behind the developers all mostly leave or ruin the form factor enough to piss me off) as well as me needing a new phone (either broken or so old technology it runs apps horribley or no one supports it anymore) for me to change. Android could have a better phone, I don't care. I'm very happy with the iphone so I have no motivation to leave as I don't need the extras Android provides and I'd lose a lot by leaving.

So yes, for me part of it is that Apple got to me first and got me locked in their ecosystem. But a big reason today I might pick the iphone still is that it still appeals to the developers. Enough so that for example Squaresoft releases its smartphone offerings to iphone first. That to me is far more important than widgets or moving backgrounds or even random extras they might throw on the Android (and I don't want a larger screen, to me that is actually a negative). The camera is good enough on the iphone 4, the GPS is excellent, the app market is well supported (most important), the phone runs smoothly even if it may not have the fastest processor. So I might still pick it even without being locked into the ecosystem.
 
In my opinion, there is just about a zero percent chance the new phone is called the iPhone 4S for one simple reason: Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs likes things his way, and there is no way in hell he is going to name it something like 4S, when people have suggested 4S for months. He could get away with the iPad 2 because there is nothing special about adding 2 to the iPad name to signify it is the 2nd iPad.

The article says that this will be an HSPA+ phone. So does that mean AT&T and T-Mobile users will be enjoying the fake "4G" while Sprint and Verizon customers will be stuck on 3G? Even though it's fake "4G," it's still a hell of a lot faster than 3G. I would be pissed as a Verizon customer.
 
I'm sorry, but you lose all credibility when you use made up words like "iSheep".

What's wrong with a made up word like iSheep. The "i" denotes Apple. The "sheep" denotes people with a flocking dynamic that are very easily led. It's very fitting to a lot of the people who know nothing outside of the Apple world. People who think they hold in their hands, products that others don't buy simply because they can't afford it. Funny how you see so many kids with these so called "expensive, out of reach" luxury devices.
You want to hang on some made up stupid words. Here's a few: "Retina Display"
 
Maybe in the US, 4G is the new hit....
when I left college there back in 2009, 3G only started to bloom (hence I got the iPhone 3G in October 2008)

But in terms of overseas, especially Hong Kong, where we have more phone choices than the US (except for smartphones, we don't have a lot of HTC choices here), 4G hasn't even been announced yet to take over our networks.

We are still heavily using 3G and 3.5G, and i STILL don't see 4G coming around the corner this year.

I'm not sure about elsewhere outside Hong Kong though.
 
Here's a few: "Retina Display"

Well, retina is a word and so is display, so I don't really understand your point there.

When someone uses a made up word like "iSheep" it adds nothing to their argument. What you're really saying is "I can't fathom how someone could like something that I don't like. I don't want to bother finding out why they like what they like. So, I'm just going to call them stupid."
 
1. I am perfectly happy with my phone. The only thing Apple can change is usually stuff they do change with each phone (faster processor, more storage though I will admit I was disappointed in that aspect with the 4).

2. The app market is still better on iOS. That may change. But at this point unless iOS starts getting really left behind, I probably won't change cause of reason #3.

Completely agree. Even my iPhone 3GS runs everything perfectly fine. I would like to have a speed upgrade because it would decrease loading times, but it's not like the 3GS is by any means slow. I honestly am fine with 32GB as well. Would I get the 64GB model if they made it? Sure, but I'm not hurting because I only have 32GB of storage. I understand some people have thousands and thousands of songs so they require the additional storage; I don't. And I doubt most people do either.

And on your second point, you couldn't be more right. the iOS App Store blows Android's out of the water. There are any, many more exclusive games for iOS and the shared apps in general are better on the iOS platform. BREAKING NEWS: Android has reached 200,000 apps! In related news, Android has reached 100,000 ring tones on the Android Market!!!!!

Android people talk about iSheep, yet they are as big of sheep in the whole game as Apple users. They listen to the complete ******** about how they need better specs and need this and need this. For example, enjoy that NFC capability Nexus users. Yeah, you know, that feature that you won't even use once during your time owning the phone. I'm not saying Apple and Apple users are perfect, but Android is far from perfect.
 
Sounds good

Yea this sounds good, i can't wait to get this and Ios5. I can live without 4G for now until it's more reliable and have more coverage. They should have the antenna perfected now and anything else that was flawed with the iphone 4. It'll still be the sexiest phone out.
 
Well, retina is a word and so is display, so I don't really understand your point there.

When someone uses a made up word like "iSheep" it adds nothing to their argument. What you're really saying is "I can't fathom how someone could like something that I don't like. I don't want to bother finding out why they like what they like. So, I'm just going to call them stupid."


Actually It's my observation that most people don't hate Apple. They hate the iSheep who go on and ridicule anything that is not Apple. Don't get me wrong Android have their fair share of droidSheep (another new word) as well. The only difference, in my humble opinion, is the Android crowd seem more demanding of their hardware. And are not hesitant to be hard on their Android manufacturer of choice. They are fully aware how good the Android OS is. While the Apple crowd truly seem to enjoy the subjective side of things like, it just "feels" smoother. And will take whatever Apple dishes out. Just read this Forum. Majority of the posters just seem to say, oh well, I'll just wait. Or they make comments about Apple products that are on the fence. That way, when Apple chooses to go one way or the other, they won't look like they're in disagreement with Apple's direction. Look how many have already said they are fine with the iPad 2's resolution and it's no real big deal that it doesn't have retina display. Or no 4G on the next iphone is just fine with them. Seriously now. I't quite pathetic. This is why the term "iSheep" is so fitting.
 
HTC Sense 3.0 - A Closer Look :eek: :cool: Please be open minded and watch this video, it is rather impressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN_ch48mGac&feature=player_embedded

Compare this to iOS4 :rolleyes:

I already gave Android a look. I returned the Inspire 4G within a week. The Android Market sucks. Period. I have my phone for four main purposes: Phone calls, Text messages, Web Browsing/Email, Apps. Every smart phone does the first three adequately enough. Android couldn't even hold the jock strap of iOS for the fourth purpose. Is it nice to have the weather on my lock screen? Sure, but I could easily live without it. I couldn't live without the many apps I use on a daily basis that Android simply doesn't provide. And if Android did provide it, it provided it with annoying, and often intrusive ads.

As I said earlier: 200,000 apps, 100,000 ring tones.
 
Yup, nice video.
And it wouldn't take a big leap for iOS to match and surpass that... hope Apple have seen that, and have a cunning plan to leapfrog!

Good luck with that half a day battery. Had a droid, no thank you! I did all possible things to prolong battery life but that thing was a hog. HTC Desire (MT4G), the only thing that thing desired was more batteries.
 
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