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This is the best response you could come up with? :rolleyes:

Well I hear people say things on a daily basis that make me not want to go to them for certain jobs. They wonder why they never get picked but it's because if the way they talk and act. How can I trust you down range when I can't trust you to maintain equipment? A good deal of people on this board say they hate android and don't give a real reason why. Some people hate the iPhone and don't give a real reason why. So I look at it as they like what they like and **** on anything else without really trying it. Not saying that's you or the other guy in this thread but you see this from all three phone camps.
 
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I don't know about the GS2 since I want the Note, but I was checking out the HTC Sensation today at the store and love the design of it.

I might switch to HTC instead of Samsung. The back of the phone felt great on the original Sensation and it isn't that much bigger than the iP4 but has a 4.3 inch screen. I was checking out all the phones with a bare minimum of 4.3 inch screen to prepare myself if I can tolerate bigger screen phones one-handed. I realized they were fine and I don't consider myself to have the biggest hands but do have fairly long fingers. As long as the width isn't too wide for me to grip it tightly, one-handed operation should be easy. The height doesn't bother me that much and the thickness is usually under 12mm anyway.

So either Note or HTC Sensation XE or XL for me as my next phone. I already have a pair of iPhones in my collection and need to go for a bigger screen to test my limits on the size. I may never go back to anything smaller. Another one that interest me is the HTC Vigor. It has a ppi of 340. HTC uses better materials, has a better retention rating, and better customer satisfaction rating than Samsung.

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Apple iPhone 4S vs Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation XE

So, Apple's latest iPhone has been revealed, and we're afraid our fears were confirmed: no iPhone 5, just an updated iPhone 4S. With it we receive a new and upgraded 8MP camera, the nippier A5 chip and the Siri personal assistant, it looks like a great phone and is certainly the best iPhone out there. But is it the best phone money can buy? We put the iPhone 4S' two main challengers, the HTC Sensation XE and the Samsung Galaxy S2, head to head with Apple's latest smartphone in a spec comparison to see how things stack up at the top of the smartphone market.

Design and build

The build on the iPhone 4S is exactly the same as that of the iPhone 4, so there's nothing new to report on that front - if you've played with or owned an iPhone 4, you won't be in for any surprises. It's a stunning phone. If you haven't, then here's the rundown: a Gorilla Glass front, a sleek glass back and an aluminium antenna band that runs along each side. It's got that typical Apple cool, but be warned: that glass back takes violent issue with being dropped.

The Galaxy S2 is not a phone for fashionistas. It's a solid workhorse, and might be the most powerful phone of the three, but someone in a boardroom at Samsung went a bit overboard on the slim-and-light front. As a result, the Galaxy S2 is the thinnest and the lightest phone on test, but the trade-off is that it feels plasticky and fragile.

The Sensation XE, on the other hand, offers the best of both worlds, with the big-screen media capabilities of the Galaxy S2 and the smooth, aluminium unibody design so typical of HTC. In fact it feels exactly like the Sensation in the hand. There's a pleasant heft to the Sensation XE that makes it feel solid, engineered, and for the XE edition HTC have spruced up the already excellent Sensation with a daub of red paint on the speaker grill and red Android touch buttons on the front.

Features

The HTC Sensation XE is marketing itself as an audiophile's phone, hence all that Beats By Dr. Dre branding on the phone. It's not just celebrity-endorsed hot air, though; the Sensation XE comes with new sound-boosting technology that adjusts things like EQ on the fly to beef up audio, and the handset comes with a pair of proper Beats By Dr. Dre earphones - earphones that won't immediately be dumped in the bin for something better. Of course, it will be interesting to see how the XE compares as a music phone next to the iPhone 4S.

The iPhone 4S' most interesting feature so far is the new Siri personal assistant. A bit like Google Voice crossed with Wolfram Alpha, Siri is Apple's whack at a first proper, 2001 A Space Odyssey-style voice control. So, instead of tapping through menus and clocks, now if you want to set an alarm you just say something like "Siri, wake me up at 8am tomorrow" and bam, Siri's on the case.

The Samsung Galaxy S2's main pull is, again, that 4.2-inch Super AMOLED display - it's one of the best smartphone screens we've seen. Samsung's had a stranglehold on the technology that other companies are only just starting to wriggle free from.

Screen

All three phones on test boast great displays with their own selling points. The iPhone 4S comes with the same Retina Display technology as the iPhone 4, which offers the greatest pixel density of the three (meaning a crisper looking picture). The Galaxy S2, however, offers a mega-rich Super AMOLED Plus display, which offers bright whites and the darkest blacks of any phone around at the moment. The Galaxy S2's screen is also bigger than the iPhone 4S' at 4.3 inches to the iPhone's 3.5.

The HTC Sensation XE is a middle ground between the iPhone 4S and the Galaxy S2. It's not got the same pixel density as the iPhone 4S, so video won't be quite as pin sharp, but is far bigger. At the same time, while the Super LCD screen on the HTC is very good, it doesn't have the richness that the Galaxy S2's Super AMOLED Plus display brings to watching video.

Price

The Galaxy S2 will set you back £500 SIM free, or around £30+ per month on a two year contract. The Sensation XE is slightly cheaper at around £490, while the iPhone 4S continues the traditional £499 price point for the 16GB iPhone, with 32GB and 64GB models available for correspondingly higher amounts.

Verdict

The Samsung Galaxy S2 would come out on top if we were judging the contenders purely on specs, if only because of that amazing screen. It's also a true featherweight, comfortably beating the iPhone 4S and the Sensation XE in both slimness and weight (or lack thereof). Our only beef is that this will go to far for some people - all those bids to save weight and size mean that the Galaxy S2 feels flimsy compared to the solid, premium builds of the iPhone 4S and the Sensation XE.

The iPhone 4 is an awesome phone, and the 4S looks like more of the same, with a new processor and a beefed up camera to bring it in line with the top-end Android handsets that have been released in the last couple of months. We're particularly excited by the sensor, to see how it compares in low light. The screen is seems a little small, 3.5-inches is going to be a dealbreaker for many people now that 4.3-inchers are becoming the norm for web browsing and watching video. Apart from Siri, which until we've tried for ourselves we're not coming down for or against, the iPhone 4S doesn't feel like much of an advancement on the iPhone 4. Although iCloud could be a game changer and is available on the iPhone 4 too.

The Sensation XE has had the battery niggles of the original Sensation fixed, from what we've seen, and we like the new focus on music that's come with HTC's partnership with Beats By Dr. Dre. It's also a great looking phone; HTC really are the Android phones to go for if you're looking for an Apple alternative that doesn't skimp on strong build. The processor's also had a bit of a boost, so HTC's beautiful Sense UI runs all the smoother.

Until we've tested them all, we won't be able to tell, which is going to be the best phone, but one thing is clearer. The smartphone race looks closer than ever.
 
Hey I love your enthusiasm about your passion for phones devilstrider but take some time off this forum trolling about all your self-proclaimed assumptions of "fanboys" in here. Let's face it, the reality is when it comes to Android vs Apple it's all about preference. We understand this is your craft, you own both because you can, and have the first-hand experience with both kinds of phones, lots of us have and do too, big deal, we get it. It still comes down to preference and some of us are just trying to explore what the industry has to offer, that's why we get Androids, iPhones, WP7s, and Nokias still. Those of us who prefer to pick the iPhone 4S over Android regardless of the fact that we've used one or not is simply because we are intrigued by a single app or feature that one phone offers that the other doesn't based off our lifestyle and the way we choose to use our phones. For one, I know there are way better apps that are useful and less buggy than what Android has to offer and secondly, Siri is going to be way more exciting to use. Fanboy? Maybe...:eek: to each their own. But back to :apple: this time around!
 
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If you can get a new s2 for under $100 it might be okay otherwise s4.

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So this might be a difficult question to answer, but I'm torn.

Should I go for the Galaxy S2, or preorder and wait out for the iPhone 4S?

I tried out the S2 a little bit, and that thing is quick, even in terms of network speed (which I'm thinking the iPhone 4s will be similar to). Problem is, I'm nowhere even close to what someone could consider *used* to an Android. I have no idea if I'd be able to have has much fun with it as I did with my recently sold iPhone 4.

So what's everyone's opinions? Pros, cons, etc? Thanks

What are you planning on doing with the phone? I know that's a broad answer, but generally, is there an emphasis? media consumption? Productivity? Time management? Or just a bit of entertainment while using it to text and call?

These things are important (knowing what you want to do) before buying between the two; as they are both amazing phones.

Personally I stayed with Android for 2 years and just ordered the 4S this morning. Not due to the OS, but as a college student and owner of a MBP, I find Apple's products are centered more around productivity and efficiency.

Siri is important for me to be able to just talk and tell the phone what to do while I walk around on campus or leave classes. It's THE reason why I'm getting the 4S over an unlocked 4.

But yea, what are you planning on doing with the phone? Are you going to play a lot of games/watch a lot of video?

Interesting use for siri. Walking on campus and being able to get stuff down without having to walk slow and type will be really efficient.

I wish I was that aware in college.
 
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I have both...sgs2 and a iphone4,both great in their own,sgs2 a lot faster,bigger screen etc,iphone4,has ios..thats it,great operating system,but in my opinion the screen size of the iphone4 is a major letdown,saying that though both phones are very very good,but for me the sgs2 because of the screen,the 4S will be the same speed as the sgs2 i would imagine,but just held back because of the screen size in todays market.....
 
I have both...sgs2 and a iphone4,both great in their own,sgs2 a lot faster,bigger screen etc,iphone4,has ios..thats it,great operating system,but in my opinion the screen size of the iphone4 is a major letdown,saying that though both phones are very very good,but for me the sgs2 because of the screen,the 4S will be the same speed as the sgs2 i would imagine,but just held back because of the screen size in todays market.....
This is exactly my plan. Keep my 3GS for the app games and get Nexus Prime for everything else.
 
I have both...sgs2 and a iphone4,both great in their own,sgs2 a lot faster,bigger screen etc,iphone4,has ios..thats it,great operating system,but in my opinion the screen size of the iphone4 is a major letdown,saying that though both phones are very very good,but for me the sgs2 because of the screen,the 4S will be the same speed as the sgs2 i would imagine,but just held back because of the screen size in todays market.....

Something I noticed when I went into the AT&T store and saw a bunch of AMOLED phones on display - they all have screen burn in problems. As for speed of the GS2 - it still stutters here and there. That's a fact. Also, the web browsing is faster on the SG2 but it isn't that fast to the point making the iP4 slow either. And even though the screen is very colorful and high contrast, the iP4's screen is alot sharper. Though the iP4 is smaller, but there is still nothing attractive enough about the SG2 (especially being so cheap plastic) that makes me want to give up the iP4.

And android OS still needs work - the stock web browser, the stock keyboard, and the icons/layout/folders - they are all very crappy IMO vs iOS. The 'polish' and smoothness of iOS isn't there in android at all. Android is essentially a homebrew phone - if you like dicking around with it that is. I laughed when I see the "clear memory" button.
 
Something I noticed when I went into the AT&T store and saw a bunch of AMOLED phones on display - they all have screen burn in problems. As for speed of the GS2 - it still stutters here and there. That's a fact. Also, the web browsing is faster on the SG2 but it isn't that fast to the point making the iP4 slow either. And even though the screen is very colorful and high contrast, the iP4's screen is alot sharper. Though the iP4 is smaller, but there is still nothing attractive enough about the SG2 (especially being so cheap plastic) that makes me want to give up the iP4.

And android OS still needs work - the stock web browser, the stock keyboard, and the icons/layout/folders - they are all very crappy IMO vs iOS. The 'polish' and smoothness of iOS isn't there in android at all. Android is essentially a homebrew phone - if you like dicking around with it that is. I laughed when I see the "clear memory" button.

yep very true,but id thought id try android and bought the nexus s when it came out,and was very impressed,so when the sgs2 came out i bought that,the thing is so light and thin..amazing bit of kit,iv got both my iphone4 and sgs2 in cases,so they dont feel any different construction wise,weight wise the sgs2 defies belief!.....
 
Out of curiosity, which app on iOS doesn't have an Android version as well? Or an equivalent of course?

All good games like shadow gun, infinity blade, etc are on iOS only

Accounting software like kashoo are on iOS only,

There are hundreds of such softwares

P.S I own sgs2 and iPhone 4 both
 
There's no way I'll get a Galaxy S2 now but I really regret not getting one when it was released. It's coming up to 5 months now so I guess I'll just get the iPhone 4S instead.
 
No one of this forum can help you make that decision.... It's up to you and YOU need to decide. Weigh both phones pros and cons and pull the trigger. You can do it tiger, you don't need help from the zoo keepers.

It's been by experience these types of posts typically turn into a smoke fests of which phone is better.
 
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Out of curiosity, which app on iOS doesn't have an Android version as well? Or an equivalent of course?

Apple and oranges - literally here

The Apple apps work better for 95% of people (average joes)

The Android apps work better for 5% of people (gadget lovers)
 
Apple and oranges - literally here

The Apple apps work better for 95% of people (average joes)

The Android apps work better for 5% of people (gadget lovers)

not really. iOS is the only mobile platform that supports the closest industry standards in music production. i've yet to find any image, audio, video, or business apps on the android os that can rival iOS.

finally, for all the gamers out there, infinity blade.
 
not really. iOS is the only mobile platform that supports the closest industry standards in music production. i've yet to find any image, audio, video, or business apps on the android os that can rival iOS.

finally, for all the gamers out there, infinity blade.

and this means what?
 
Hey I love your enthusiasm about your passion for phones devilstrider but take some time off this forum trolling about all your self-proclaimed assumptions of "fanboys" in here. Let's face it, the reality is when it comes to Android vs Apple it's all about preference. We understand this is your craft, you own both because you can, and have the first-hand experience with both kinds of phones, lots of us have and do too, big deal, we get it. It still comes down to preference and some of us are just trying to explore what the industry has to offer, that's why we get Androids, iPhones, WP7s, and Nokias still. Those of us who prefer to pick the iPhone 4S over Android regardless of the fact that we've used one or not is simply because we are intrigued by a single app or feature that one phone offers that the other doesn't based off our lifestyle and the way we choose to use our phones. For one, I know there are way better apps that are useful and less buggy than what Android has to offer and secondly, Siri is going to be way more exciting to use. Fanboy? Maybe...:eek: to each their own. But back to :apple: this time around!

I said it was about preference in another thread and dudes still argued that. It's only trolling to people because I'm not sucking up to their platform of choice. It took a while for me to get a great android phone and it has its issues just like iOS. I give both their props for what they do for me. But for some people that's not enough.
 
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My first and probably last post, have to quell some mis-truths.

Samsung Touchwiz is not representative of Android. I don't know how well it performs on the SGS2, at least it's upgraded to EXT4 from the garbage RFS file system on the SGS1.

I am an SGS1 owner, and I was not satisfied with the SGS1 until I finally managed to extract all that touchwiz/RFS garbage out of the phone. No more lag, no more bogging down, it flies, I don't know what lag is with 5 apps running in full.

Touchwiz isn't so much a skin/GUI as it is it's own operating system, it's integrated into quite literally everything.

My experience with Samsung is horrifying. Entire production runs, more than one, shipped with bad SD cards. Carrier saved the day with no hassle exchanges, more than one failed on me.

Android is designed to be continually refined, Samsung is a slug at releasing software updates, probably because it has to be integrated into their TouchWiz rubbish. The solution is to run custom ROMS, which Samsung makes into an absolute nightmare with proprietary rights and locked hardware drivers.

Made the move onto Gingerbread a year after I ought to have, on the backs of some really nice dev's reverse engineering everything, and the phone finally runs as it should have the day it was released. If I could upgrade today without excessive cost, I would, but the phone is finally running in the league of Iphone4. (Better at something/worse at others) YMMV

If you want to experience Android, do it on HTC Sense or a Google branded Nexus product. I'm not sure regarding Motoblur.

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I don't quite agree. My experience with the S2 is quite limited, however;

The iPhone 4S has:

-better OS real-word performance
In a word, no. Android is a far more capable operating system performance wise. App management, memory management, etc. That does not necessarily make it a better user experience.
-better graphics for games and apps
Only real comparison is IPad2 vs GS2, no noticeable difference for me personally.
-better touch input recognition
How can you say this about a phone that hasn't even launched? Iphone4 VS GS2, no noticeable difference.
-better camera
How can you say this about a phone that hasn't even launched? But personally I don't really care that much about the camera, that's what a DSLR is a for so no comment.
-64GB option
Removable storage is vastly superior.
-higher-end materials for the casing
I quite agree, but that front and back glass scares me. Samsung touchscreen glass feels much tougher, but I've never broken either so can't say.
-better resolution and pixel density
-better battery life
-Siri and iCloud
-more apps and less compatibility/fragmentation issues with them
Tough to say. Push email/exchange support/RDP/Tethering/Navigation Android wins. Games/day to day Apps like restaurant finders/online banking/etc Ios wins. Overall the edge seems unquestionably to the App Store, but for what I personally use the phone for, the Market is better. I miss a lot of Apple apps though. YMMV
-easy OS upgrading (iOS6 anyone?)
Yes & No. Android is even easier to upgrade if you're willing to do it yourself. Vendor support is definitely inferior to Apple.
-better resale value
-better for music organizing and listening
There is more than one music manager on Android that is easily on par. Depends what your taste is.
-more accessories, cases, docks, etc.

The Galaxy S2 has:
-bigger screen
-higher HSPA+ theoretical data speed
-more OS customization without jailbraking
-unrestricted apps
-flash
-Removable battery
-Removable storage
-More capable WiFi antenna
-HDMI out capability
-Mature voice guided GPS Nav with traffic and other bells & whistles
-Accessories are 30% cheaper
-Control!




I would definitely pick the 4S. If you're sold to Android though I would wait a bit, at least until the Galaxy Nexus announcement.


Which is totally better is an impossible question. You could argue that a Bentley is the best car in the world, until you need to haul material to a job site down a dirt road.

What requirements do you have for a smartphone. How much input are you willing to have as to how that process goes. Go and find the choice that fits you.
 
Which is totally better is an impossible question. You could argue that a Bentley is the best car in the world, until you need to haul material to a job site down a dirt road.

What requirements do you have for a smartphone. How much input are you willing to have as to how that process goes. Go and find the choice that fits you.

This is a very poor analogy given by many nowadays.

First of all, installing custom ROMs =/= hauling material.

Second of all, people use both phones the same way. Or for same end result. You may use a different method, but the end result is same.

For example, watching videos, listening to music, browsing internet, social networking, running apps, making apps, installing apps, navigation, planner, diary, document reading and making, email, IM, entertainment, time keeping etc.

Both iPhone and android phones do same things mentioned above. Do they use different ways or different methods? yes. But the end result is you get the same info out that you intended. I have no come across a single android phone, nexus or no nexus, that offers anything more. Yes there are widgets, yes you have drag and drop and yes there is LTE, bigger screens but do they do anything more than accomplish the above? No. Do they make me lunch, make my bill payments, do my work for me etc? No. So both OS work to do the same. It is not like one is a ford 150 and other is an audi a8, where both do different things (i,e. hauling groceries vs. pulling trailers or doing snow removal etc).

So it is in no way the same as "hauling material to a job site". This is such a big misrepresentation.
 
This is a very poor analogy given by many nowadays.

First of all, installing custom ROMs =/= hauling material.

Second of all, people use both phones the same way. Or for same end result. You may use a different method, but the end result is same.

For example, watching videos, listening to music, browsing internet, social networking, running apps, making apps, installing apps, navigation, planner, diary, document reading and making, email, IM, entertainment, time keeping etc.

Both iPhone and android phones do same things mentioned above. Do they use different ways or different methods? yes. But the end result is you get the same info out that you intended. I have no come across a single android phone, nexus or no nexus, that offers anything more. Yes there are widgets, yes you have drag and drop and yes there is LTE, bigger screens but do they do anything more than accomplish the above? No. Do they make me lunch, make my bill payments, do my work for me etc? No. So both OS work to do the same. It is not like one is a ford 150 and other is an audi a8, where both do different things (i,e. hauling groceries vs. pulling trailers or doing snow removal etc).

So it is in no way the same as "hauling material to a job site". This is such a big misrepresentation.

*stands up and claps*

Although, sadly, you will realize that the level of ignorance here continues to rise and you'll eventually get tired of providing long, detailed, and educated responses.

Completely agree with you though. The only reason I'm going for an iPhone 4S is that I'm tired of Android (did anything and everything with it for 2 years) and I just want to try something new. Plus, iCloud seems enticing along with Siri saving me tons of time, being a college student.

Had a Nexus 1 and LOVED it. Chose a Captivate over the iPhone 4 last year. Both are great OSs and have their Pros and Cons.
 
I honestly don't understand people who ask this on an Apple forum.

I do. Despite the fanboyism, there are always a couple of seasoned, experienced technology experts that hang out here and provide valuable insight that would cost $300/hr in the real world. You just need to filter out all the "noise" to get to them...
 
I've had the iPhone 3G, 3GS, and 4 and just got Sprint's Galaxy S II yesterday and I LOVE it! I'm not going to sit here and bash Apple and the iPhone because I have loved every moment with my past iPhones, but for me it was time for a change. In the end, for now anyway, I'll be sticking with my Galaxy S II.
 
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