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iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Start at 12:01 AM Pacific on Friday

stick30 said:
Whoop De freaking do. Have to do better than 4s
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You are talking about Samsung, HTC, RIM, Nokia, right?


Mr. Gates said:
Is that why they didn't show the APPLE stock price during the Keynote?
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They didn't show the stock price during the keynote because it was about products, not about shares. And as usual, the shares dropped because the idiots were missing a "5" in the announcement, then the ones with brains loaded up on cheap shares and made $15 profit in a very short time.
 
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guch20 said:
Pre-ordering day one.

Off topic, I'm sorta pissed Siri doesn't work with the iPad 2. This thing is a beast, but it can't chew on Siri (nevermind the fact that the original app works on freaking iPhone 3GS...)?

Obviously, they want to make it a major selling point of the iPhone 4S, but why not let iPad 2 users have it as well, since it's not likely someone is going to pass on buying an iPhone to get an iPad if they need a freaking phone. Just don't let it run on phones older than the 4S, and don't let it run at all on iPod Touch. Problem solved.
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From what I've been reading around the blogosphere, is that the Siri feature is RAM hungry. It's speculated that the iPhone 4S has 1GB of RAM, and if true, it probably has this much RAM to accommodate Siri. The iPad 2 has 512MB RAM even though the A5 processor is more than fast.

Look for the next iPad to have increased RAM to be able to run Siri (if this is true of course).
 
so the unlocked prices are:

$449 $549 $649

or

$649 $749 $849

in the US?

will they be available for preorder on the 7th,
in Canada the unlocked 4s is available for preorder on the 7th,
so should be the same in the US right
 
gnasher729 said:
You are talking about Samsung, HTC, RIM, Nokia, right?




They didn't show the stock price during the keynote because it was about products, not about shares. And as usual, the shares dropped because the idiots were missing a "5" in the announcement, then the ones with brains loaded up on cheap shares and made $15 profit in a very short time.
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It's pretty standard stuff. Stock prices always rise in advance of a big announcement because some traders decide to bet a few grand on a 'better than expected' result. Had Apple managed to do the impossible and launch a phone that can give you a neck rub then those guys would have been in the money big time as the stock shoots through the roof post announcement.

It's worth the risk because, in the long term it will pay off. But if the announcement is just what people expected then some of those guys will want their cash back quick-sharp because they need it for more pressing investments. Hence, when the announcement isn't of a new kind of sugar that not only has no calories but instantly leads to regrowth of hair and a six pack you always see a dip.

As I understand it shares fell about 5% after the keynote and rallied to recover almost all of that but close of trading. Essentially, if you fancy making money for no work and happen to have a few grand stashed away you could do worse than buying stock in major companies the moment a new product is announced. The bigger the hype train leading up to the announcement the more certain you'll be able to sell those suddenly cheap shares for a decent profit within 48 hours.
 
$100 more
They finally caught up with the processor, which is 6 months old, considering the quad core processors are going to be out soon. The speed is now in par with the Samsung Galaxy SII -Finally-.
The antenna they broke is fixed in this version, paying for a fix?
upgraded camera, other phones have had it.
siris or whatever, which is pretty much in every phone by now -Not specifically Siris, but Android has a voice thing like that-.

Galaxy SII still beats this phone in every way, and when the iPhone 5 is out, the galaxy S III will be out with a quad core processor and the newest android OS.
 
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gnasher729 said:
You are talking about Samsung, HTC, RIM, Nokia, right?




They didn't show the stock price during the keynote because it was about products, not about shares. And as usual, the shares dropped because the idiots were missing a "5" in the announcement, then the ones with brains loaded up on cheap shares and made $15 profit in a very short time.
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They didn't show the stock price because it would have been meaningless. Stock prices drop and news because the price was built on the rumors. The only way they don't drop is if rumors were way off. For example they got a bounce during original iPad announcement because rumors were way off on price.

Your later point is right, the minute to minute price during the announcement is just day traders taking advantage of morons.
mariokiller64 said:
$100 more
They finally caught up with the processor, which is 6 months old, considering the quad core processors are going to be out soon. The speed is now in par with the Samsung Galaxy SII -Finally-.
The antenna they broke is fixed in this version, paying for a fix?
upgraded camera, other phones have had it.
siris or whatever, which is pretty much in every phone by now -Not specifically Siris, but Android has a voice thing like that-.

Galaxy SII still beats this phone in every way, and when the iPhone 5 is out, the galaxy S III will be out with a quad core processor and the newest android OS.
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Except the SII doesn't actually beat the Iphone 4 in any meaningful way. Not in usability, sales, customer satisfaction. Only on Spec sheets designed to impress nerds. Not for people that want to use a well built smartphone. For example, the camera is great if you are a nerd who wants to edit every photo before sharing. For everyone else, the iPhone 4 is better. I know you thought it was about megapixels, but you are often misguided. The antenna was never really broken. See they sold about 90 million of those broken antenna's and managed to keep a satisfaction rating about 35% higher than their nearest competitor...

Do you see what you did? You said it will win because it will have a quad-core processor. The problem is , that is not how you win, nobody cares, and that does not make it a better phone in any way. Have you ever even used one? Sometimes I get the feeling I am the only one commenting on the SII that has actually used one.

It is ok, not great. Lots of performance hiccups. Way underperforms the hardware your paying for. The browser is pretty good. The camera is absurdly slow. The UI is clunky, the buttons all perform random context based behaviors that vary significantly even between internal apps (I assume this is an Android feature). Sure it is better than most of the old Windows CE phones, but it is not comparable to any current iOS device even the 3GS. If Microsoft can ever do anything meaningful with Windows Mobile, it would become the main iOS alternative.

Print that spec sheet out and tape it to the back so you can remember what you were so excited about when you ordered it.
 
wovel said:
It is ok, not great. Lots of performance hiccups. Way underperforms the hardware your paying for. The browser is pretty good. The camera is absurdly slow. The UI is clunky, the buttons all perform random context based behaviors that vary significantly even between internal apps (I assume this is an Android feature). Sure it is better than most of the old Windows CE phones, but it is not comparable to any current iOS device even the 3GS. If Microsoft can ever do anything meaningful with Windows Mobile, it would become the main iOS alternative.
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No idea what phone you tried, but when I tried it, it was absolutely amazing.
Don't get me wrong, I also tried the iphone 4, but I noticed the better speed on the Samsung Galaxy SII. Games also ran pretty damn smooth, both of the phones were "modded" -Jailbroken iPhone and rooted SGS2-. Are you sure you didn't try your friends phone who knows nothing about what he's holding and just ran crazy stuff?
I favor Android's OS, did you notice that Apple actually copied Android in their IOS 5 this time? Ironic, isn't it? Then again, everything is a copy of a copy of a copy.

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Just in case anyone gets offended, I'm not calling Apple the only copy-cat.

See they sold about 90 million of those broken antenna's and managed to keep a satisfaction rating about 35% higher than their nearest competitor...
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And the rest of the left handed user's satisfaction went down the drain.
 
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What a Friggin Crybaby

chrisfromalbany said:
wish this was iPhone 5 not iPhone 4S, as do many.. why wasn't this released back in July, guessing needed/wanted Siri, b/c only special feature this phone gets. iPhone 4 isn't slow and it's camera isn't bad, both get grades and not a great reason buy new phone. True Apple fan but this was a downgrade. Let's hope there is a iPhone 5 in July 2012. I don't feel like waiting another year for something I thought until recently we be news about today. I am still going to buy this because I off contract and opportunity cost of $250 for being off contract for a year is too great.

But honestly think S stands for seriously???:confused:
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Go run home and cry to mommy. Downgrade? What a pathetic life some people lead.
 
Existing iPhone owners can check their upgrade eligibility using this tool.
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Eh, no they can't, only the Yanks can check. Once AGAIN you are forgetting that there are another 195 countries in the world.

Arn, can you please edit the front page article to make this clear?
 
fatboyslick said:
Maybe they don't own an Android so don't know what featrures it has in order to make the comparison, hence them asking?
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Yeah, I guess I read his post as a negative post.
Woops, I guess I need some rest, I have some built in stress at the moment.
-Just got home from a funeral :(-
 
I wouldn't really call anything copied from Android as much as copied from already available App Store stuff.

The only thing they seem to have copied from Android is the notification center.

But then again, it's quite normal that any feature they add have been added before by some 3rd party developer. In such a fast growing app marketplace, that's unavoidable.
 
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Wanderermy said:
Any words on the unlocked version?
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What about the unlocked version price?
 
iBug2 said:
I wouldn't really call anything copied from Android as much as copied from already available App Store stuff.

The only thing they seem to have copied from Android is the notification center.

But then again, it's quite normal that any feature they add have been added before by some 3rd party developer. In such a fast growing app marketplace, that's unavoidable.
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So, I can say the same thing for Android?
 
If Apple had held back the iOS5 news until yesterday's press conference then it would have had a much better WOW factor....all they could really talk about was a few tweaks and it's been a let down for people expecting the Ark of the Covenant or something.
 
mariokiller64 said:
Apple Fanboys, 5 stars for everything *except battery*, really now?
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Customer satisfaction is customer satisfaction. You can't just go around it by calling them fanboys because it's irrelevant if they are fanboys or not.

Actually if Apple managed to create that many fanboys (which I doubt, because it's too huge a number if you can significantly bias the surveys through that number alone) then it's an even bigger success than building products. Any company with that many fanboys will go on forever and beat everyone else out of the market, without doing much. :)

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mariokiller64 said:
So, I can say the same thing for Android?
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Probably. Why should it be any different? For example the "To do" feature they added in Android and now in iOS has been available as 3rd party before.
 
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