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Strange. I considered myself one up until about three years ago at which point I had little free time, but I never had multiple gaming rigs. Just don't see the point.

Laptop and desktop perhaps? I'm not a "hardcore gamer", but I made sure both my laptop and desktop can run the latest games.

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So the 4S is faster, no dev is going to make amazing game for it that the 3GS can't run.

My example earlier covers this. Nova 3 works on the iPhone 3GS, but not the HTC One X. The iPhone 3GS version looks different than the iPhone 4 version which looks different than the iPhone 4S version. This is typically how these apps are done, they don't make one version that looks identical across all iPhones, they optimize for all three currently selling iPhones.

Trust me, the iPhone 3GS cannot run the Nova 3 iPhone 4S version :)
 
Laptop and desktop perhaps? I'm not a "hardcore gamer", but I made sure both my laptop and desktop can run the latest games.

There isn't a single hardcore gamer out that that really is a hardcore gamer that considers a laptop their gaming rig. Build your tower or GTFO. At least that is how it was until I "got out".
 
I wasn't until the recently released HTC One X that an Android phone had better CPU performance than the iPhone 4S, and it wasn't until the GS3 (international version only) was released that an Android phone had better GPU performance than the iPhone 4S.

I am consistently shocked with how consistently incorrect your posts are mbell1975 :)

The 4s just came out 8 months ago, I am talking about over the years. The Tegra 2 and high end Exynos processors owned the A4
 
Simple.

If a rival has faster performance - Specs don't matter.
If a rival has lower performance - Specs matter.

This works for all platforms be it consoles, computers, phones, TV's, fridge freezers......

You and 22 others don't understand the difference between specs and performance.
 
We already know the iPhone is a great device.

That is unless some still haven't caught up to the facts.

But then again so is my HTC One X Android, I simply appreciate good smartphones and choices.

The best of both worlds. Not a complaint in sight :)
 
You and 22 others don't understand the difference between specs and performance.

And you don't understand the flip-flopping that goes on with people that will one day applaud the insane specs of a new device for it to "not matter" once something else comes out and beats their previous spec champion.
 
I recently went from an iPhone 4S back to to am iPhone 4. (best buy buyback program=mistake)

I definitely notice a huge difference.

When I went from the 4 to the 4S I didn't notice a huge performance bump other than data speed. Going backwards I notice a pretty big difference.

Now I have to stare at this $450 best buy gift card and wait for the new iPhone.


And I do miss Siri. Never realized how much I used her.
 
And you don't understand the flip-flopping that goes on with people that will one day applaud the insane specs of a new device for it to "not matter" once something else comes out and beats their previous spec champion.

There's a difference between saying "Phone X is measurably a lot faster than every other phone when it comes to games", which is MEANINGFUL to the average consumer, and saying, "My phone has a quad core A5 processor and 2GB of RAM." What aren't you understanding?

Performance, to me, is more important than the name of the processor. For instance, supposedly the S3's browser renders faster than the iPhone's. This is huge to me and a reason why I'm giving Android another shot before the iPhone 5 launch. You telling me I should buy an S3 because it has a 1.6ghz Snapdragon (or whatever) processor is not going to influence my buying decision.

I'm so emotional about why other people buy phones!
 
There's a difference between saying "Phone X is measurably a lot faster than every other phone when it comes to games", which is MEANINGFUL to the average consumer, and saying, "My phone has a quad core A5 processor and 2GB of RAM."

Who are you quoting there? It's certainly not me.

My post was sarcasm on the way people change their opinions when the goalposts move.

Re-read it in a sarcastic light and ingest exactly what I was replying to:

Do people still care about specs?

Simple.

If a rival has faster performance - Specs don't matter.
If a rival has lower performance - Specs matter.

This works for all platforms be it consoles, computers, phones, TV's, fridge freezers......

To simplify in an imaginary world: When the XBOX720 comes out with insane specs, some XBOX fans will be crowing about how it is superior to the PlayStation 3. If Sony then respond with a stronger machine, those very people may then change their opinions that specs don't matter and move on to some other arbitrary quantifier as to why their slower machine is better.

What aren't you understanding?
22 other people took and understood what I wrote as I intended. You didn't.
 
Hardware is only part of the story.

The 4S throws down big graphics numbers, but it's the apps that make the hardware worthwhile.

iOS has far more big name titles and big development houses cranking out real games. And they are either exclusive, or android gets them much later.

The GSIII's numbers, Quad or Krait, are great in theory, but meaningless if all they are used for is Angry Birds.
 
Who are you quoting there? It's certainly not me.

My post was sarcasm on the way people change their opinions when the goalposts move.

Re-read it in a sarcastic light and ingest exactly what I was replying to:





To simplify in an imaginary world: When the XBOX720 comes out with insane specs, some XBOX fans will be crowing about how it is superior to the PlayStation 3. If Sony then respond with a stronger machine, those very people may then change their opinions that specs don't matter and move on to some other arbitrary quantifier as to why their slower machine is better.


22 other people took and understood what I wrote as I intended. You didn't.

I was 5 hours post-surgery on loads of Vicodin. My fault (even though I didn't read your post again to confirm, too loopy to push the issue).
 
Hardware is only part of the story.

The 4S throws down big graphics numbers, but it's the apps that make the hardware worthwhile.

iOS has far more big name titles and big development houses cranking out real games. And they are either exclusive, or android gets them much later.

The GSIII's numbers, Quad or Krait, are great in theory, but meaningless if all they are used for is Angry Birds.

What games are you talking about? Only game that I can think of that has impressive graphics is infinity blade 2 maybe one other I can't remember the name of. Games like shadow gun run just as smoothly on my old Xoom. And my loading times seemed a bit better when I overclocked it.

Plus those games run on the 3GS. So it's not like it's taxing the 4S and showing us what's possible. So there really isn't any apps that can show us in the real world the graphic capability of the 4S.

The only thing I can think of that could still bog down my Xoom (tegra 2) are playstation emulators. Like gran turismo would get a little choppy if all the cars were on the screen at once. Overclocking helped but wasnt a cure.

I never ran emulators on my iPad 2 (cause I'm sure it would be a pita to do if possible) so I can't compare. Emulators work differently so it's probably more taxing on the CPU then GPU.

Regardless there is no real world use currently to show us the benefits of these benchmarks. Show games load a bit faster on the 4S vs the 3GS but that's not really a GPU comparison
 
Hardware is only part of the story.

The 4S throws down big graphics numbers, but it's the apps that make the hardware worthwhile.

iOS has far more big name titles and big development houses cranking out real games. And they are either exclusive, or android gets them much later.

The GSIII's numbers, Quad or Krait, are great in theory, but meaningless if all they are used for is Angry Birds.

Hey, it takes a lot of horsepower to run all that malware. :D :D :D
 
Hey, it takes a lot of horsepower to run all that malware. :D :D :D

Apple die hards love to throw the malware card around. While more then ios, it's certainly not a problem. Id be more concerned of a virus on my windows machine and I consider that a non issue.

Big names in the anti virus business offer free anti malware apps anyway (AVG, Norton, etc). I've NEVER had malware, and I bet you can't show me an app in google play that has malware.

Besides the games he was talking about are made by legitimate software companies. They aren't putting malicious code in their software.
 
Plus those games run on the 3GS. So it's not like it's taxing the 4S and showing us what's possible. So there really isn't any apps that can show us in the real world the graphic capability of the 4S.

Again, when a game runs on both the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4S, they are by no means identical. Look at Nova 3 for comparison, I wouldn't be able to tell its the same game if I didn't know better.
 
What games are you talking about? Only game that I can think of that has impressive graphics is infinity blade 2 maybe one other I can't remember the name of. Games like shadow gun run just as smoothly on my old Xoom. And my loading times seemed a bit better when I overclocked it.

You missed the point.

The GSIII could have a 10 core GPU, but it means absolutely nothing because android has limited game support from major development houses. Either that or the android version lags months behind the iOS version, and then you have to pray that it works well on your device.

You're talking Shadowgun which came out on iOS way back in september 2011. Where are these on android? Why is android's game support so anemic? Or is that GSIII power meant just for Flipboard...which has been on iOS since 2010...

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Again, when a game runs on both the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4S, they are by no means identical. Look at Nova 3 for comparison, I wouldn't be able to tell its the same game if I didn't know better.

I stand corrected. I did not know they made different versions of the same game.
 
The GSIII could have a 10 core GPU, but it means absolutely nothing because android has limited game support from major development houses. Either that or the android version lags months behind the iOS version, and then you have to pray that it works well on your device.

Because as I said before, people don't buy PHONES to play games! Any serious gamer who needs a mobile device is going to get a Vita or something similar. He isn't going to grab his PHONE :rolleyes: the 900k people activating Android phones everyday aren't doing it based off what games are available to them.
 
Because as I said before, people don't buy PHONES to play games!

Source? Considering the majority of the 7+ billion dollars of apps purchased by iOS users are games, I would love to see some sources to substantiate your claim.
 
Source? Considering the majority of the 7+ billion dollars of apps purchased by iOS users are games, I would love to see some sources to substantiate your claim.

And what games are those? Have a look below to see the top selling games on the iPhone. As I said, stupid games 8 year olds play that are not graphic intensive and can't run on an Android phone. Also, these aren't games that a hardcore gamer would buy an iPhone just to play. Just stop already, you make yourself look less knowledgeable with every post

http://thumblounge.com/topapps/top-iphone-games/
 
And what games are those? Have a look below to see the top selling games on the iPhone. As I said, stupid games 8 year olds play that are not graphic intensive and can't run on an Android phone. Also, these aren't games that a hardcore gamer would buy an iPhone just to play. Just stop already, you make yourself look less knowledgeable with every post

http://thumblounge.com/topapps/top-iphone-games/

Mbell1975, you are making illogical statements, and using sources that aren't relevant to your claim, as evidence of your claim.

Your claim:

people don't buy PHONES to play games!

Your evidence:

Many of the current top selling games are not graphic intensive.

You cannot conclude that people do not consider the available games when choosing their phone, based on the fact that many of the top selling games are not graphic intensive.
 
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