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iPhone 4S remains the top graphically performing smartphone in the US - beats US GS3

DodgeV83 said:
Mbell1975, you are making illogical statements, and using sources that aren't relevant to your claim, as evidence of your claim.

Your claim:



Your evidence:



You cannot conclude that people do not consider the available games when choosing their phone, based on the fact that many of the top selling games are not graphic intensive.
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I think that what he's trying to say is that given that Android is more popular than iOS worlwide, gaming isn't the deciding factor for most consumers. This is pretty much a given. Price is probably the deciding factor for many.

I don't dispute that iOS is the superior gaming platform. The Galaxy S3 international version is a more capable device and trounces the 4S in benchmarks, but it doesn't matter if the games just aren't there.
 
To me it looks like Games are important on smartphones judging by the top 10 apps (in the UK at least)

iPhone Paid:
1. Temple Run (game)
2. Asphalt 7: Heat (game)
3. Plague INC (game)
4. iTranslate Voice (app)
5. Sonic The Hedgehog (game)
6. Free Music Download (app)
7. Angry Birds Space (game)
8. Catapult King (game)
9. Angry Birds Seasons (game)
10. Cut the rope (game)

Free:
1. Song Pop (game)
2. Save the Titanic (game)
3. Ultimate Logo Quiz (game)
4. Sonic The Hedgehog 4 Episode II lite (game)
5. Angry Birds Space free (game)
6. Million Pound drop (game)
7. Grabatron (game)
8. Pinball arcade (game)
9. Streetfood Tycoon (game)
10. Instagram (app)

Android paid:
1. Temple Run Brave (game)
2. Grand Theft Auto III (game)
3. Draw Something (game)
4. Swiftkey (app)
5. Jamie Olivers 20 minute meals (app)
6. Cut the rope (game)
7. Mass Effect Infiltrator (game)
8. Max Payne (game)
9. Mini Motor Racing (game)
10 Where's My Water (game)

Android free:
1. Street view Google Maps (app)
2. Facebook(app)
3. Google Maps (app)
4. Gmail (app)
5. Voice Search (app)
6. Whatsapp Messenger (app)
7. Magic Piano (game)
8. Adobe Flash (app)
9. Skype (app)
10. Google Search (app)

What surprises me is that there are more graphically intensive games at the top end of the Google Play store. The Android top free section is obviously skewed by the fact that most of the Google services apps are not built in to the OS and are instead distributed via Google Play.

This is all from the UK region though so your region may vary.
 
Beta was a technically superior format to VHS. Guess which won?

Amiga was technically superior to IBM PC. Guess which won?

(By "Technically" I mean superior specifications)

Many here probably aren't old enough to remember either but I think you can figure out the point.

I will give my congratulations to fAndroids, they finally get Flipboard. Welcome to 2010. (And what was that Instagram thing they just got finally?) :D

Oh, wait, GAMES you say...maybe next year.
 
chiefpavvy said:
Beta was a technically superior format to VHS. Guess which won?

Amiga was technically superior to IBM PC. Guess which won?

(By "Technically" I mean superior specifications)

Many here probably aren't old enough to remember either but I think you can figure out the point.

I will give my congratulations to fAndroids, they finally get Flipboard. Welcome to 2010. (And what was that Instagram thing they just got finally?) :D

Oh, wait, GAMES you say...maybe next year.
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Maps with turn by turn.. welcome to 2010.

Oh, wait, maps that actually have most streets on them you say...maybe next year.

Both platforms have their weaknesses and strengths. :)
 
chiefpavvy said:
I will give my congratulations to fAndroids, they finally get Flipboard. Welcome to 2010. (And what was that Instagram thing they just got finally?) :D
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The same could easily be said about iOS. How long did it take to get copy and paste, multitasking, etc. Also some of the features in iOS6 have been on Android for a couple years. Both platforms have things the other doesn't or didn't get until after the other.

People in glass houses.........
 
matttye said:
Maps with turn by turn.. welcome to 2010.

Oh, wait, maps that actually have most streets on them you say...maybe next year.

Both platforms have their weaknesses and strengths. :)
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I've hard turn by turn maps and navigation for years. It's called Navigon. :D
 
chiefpavvy said:
Flipboard and Instagram are both third-party apps. No?

Games are all third-party apps...No?
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Dude, iOS just barely got features Android has had built in for years. That is what we are talking about. You needed to use a third party app to get things Androids come with out of the box.
 
mbell1975 said:
Dude, iOS just barely got features Android has had built in for years. That is what we are talking about. You needed to use a third party app to get things Androids come with out of the box.
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Nope. Your vaunted Google Navigation does not have the maps and POIs OFFLINE and I am often out in the boonies, without signal, sometimes for fairly significant stretches. (Incidentally, Apple's turn-by-turn will likely be the same and I won't use it for the same reasons...)
 
chiefpavvy said:
Flipboard and Instagram are both third-party apps. No?

Games are all third-party apps...No?
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Even when I had iOS for 2 years I defended more Android, since I don't like Apples strict policies and stupid restrictions. Today I got my first Android, the SGS3, and guess what?

iOS way, waaaaaay behind Android. Its so far behind its a joke. I like both OS, but I got tired of seeing iOS stay behind for years.

Flipboard? Who CARES about flipboard? Seriously!!! I care about Maps, Youtube, better email client, freedom, bigger screens, capacitive buttons, etc. No one cares about clipboard! C'mon man!

And by the way, Googles Maps next update will have offline maps, so you can download all your city and look at it offline.
 
Sensamic said:
Even when I had iOS for 2 years I defended more Android, since I don't like Apples strict policies and stupid restrictions. Today I got my first Android, the SGS3, and guess what?

iOS way, waaaaaay behind Android. Its so far behind its a joke. I like both OS, but I got tired of seeing iOS stay behind for years.

Flipboard? Who CARES about flipboard? Seriously!!! I care about Maps, Youtube, better email client, freedom, bigger screens, capacitive buttons, etc. No one cares about clipboard! C'mon man!

And by the way, Googles Maps next update will have offline maps, so you can download all your city and look at it offline.
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I'm glad you like your SGS3. I'd be interested to hear your review after you spend a little more time with it.

Flipboard...who cares about it? Oh, I don't know, maybe a few of the 5 million plus users (12/11 figures)

On the navigation, that offline maps thing is no good. I have a couple other iOS navigation apps with similar "cache" functionality. The problem is that if your route isn't set in stone (or you deviate off it) the stuff isn't there. I want the entire map database and POI database at all times. Not just a cache of a certain path or route.
 
LSUtigers03 said:
Google is adding offline support for maps.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/06/google-maps-for-android-gets-offline-support/
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Very little information about that other than speculation at this point as far as what "Offline Mode" will consist of. As I stated earlier, any thing short of the ability to have the entire maps database and POI database on device falls short of my needs. I have no desire to spend time pre-planning routes and caching sections or subsections of maps. I need all of it, all the time. Of course there are third-party navigation tools on Android which have that functionality just as mine does (Navigon).
 
chiefpavvy said:
Very little information about that other than speculation at this point as far as what "Offline Mode" will consist of. As I stated earlier, any thing short of the ability to have the entire maps database and POI database on device falls short of my needs. I have no desire to spend time pre-planning routes and caching sections or subsections of maps. I need all of it, all the time. Of course there are third-party navigation tools on Android which have that functionality just as mine does (Navigon).
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You want to download full maps and not rely on cache right?

Android users can soon opt to download full maps for given areas (instead of just caching routes) without needing a cellular or WiFi connection.
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Seems like they're saying not speculating what offline mode means.
 
LSUtigers03 said:
You want to download full maps and not rely on cache right?

Seems like they're saying not speculating what offline mode means.
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In that article you linked they show a download of a London city map. That's not what I'm looking for. I want the entire North America maps and POI. And I don't want to sit there going locale by locale telling it to cache or download them. If there is an option to just put the entire databases on the device and be done with it (as Navigon, TomTom, and many others allow) then we'll talk. No one knows for sure just yet.
 
chiefpavvy said:
I'm glad you like your SGS3. I'd be interested to hear your review after you spend a little more time with it.

Flipboard...who cares about it? Oh, I don't know, maybe a few of the 5 million plus users (12/11 figures)

On the navigation, that offline maps thing is no good. I have a couple other iOS navigation apps with similar "cache" functionality. The problem is that if your route isn't set in stone (or you deviate off it) the stuff isn't there. I want the entire map database and POI database at all times. Not just a cache of a certain path or route.
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I used TomTom on my iPhone and they say it will be released this summer on Android. Lets see if that is true.
 
lordofthereef said:
You aren't SERIOUSLY basing how good an OS is on how long it has had Instagram and Flipboard?

No... you can't be, because that would be absurd.
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While far from a major indicator, it is something to be taken into consideration when analyzing the competing app markets and ecosystems when you're talking about two immensely popular mobile applications.

On the other hand, with news lately of a lot of very popular iOS only apps making the move to Android as well, it could be taken as a sign of changing times as well.
 
Blah! Of course it is. iPhone is running at 900x640 resolution. Those tests text is wrong. Show me a way to force anything to run at 720p on an 4S and I'll believe you. Physically impossible. The SGIII is running at 720p. No apples to apples. Duh! (I know the benchies say 720p, but the iphone isn't running at that resolution, it can't).
 
iammike1 said:
While far from a major indicator, it is something to be taken into consideration when analyzing the competing app markets and ecosystems when you're talking about two immensely popular mobile applications.

On the other hand, with news lately of a lot of very popular iOS only apps making the move to Android as well, it could be taken as a sign of changing times as well.
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They are two apps that happened to become popular and iOS because they weren't available elsewhere. I am sure there are example on Android as well. I can't produce them, because I don't spend my time thinking of these things.

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chiefpavvy said:
I'm guessing comprehension isn't your thing?

No, I'm not. Just data points. Add them up...
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Comprehension is fine. Read what you wrote. You wrote JUST THAT.
 
jamexman said:
Blah! Of course it is. iPhone is running at 900x640 resolution. Those tests text is wrong. Show me a way to force anything to run at 720p on an 4S and I'll believe you. Physically impossible. The SGIII is running at 720p. No apples to apples. Duh! (I know the benchies say 720p, but the iphone isn't running at that resolution, it can't).
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While I'm not sure if this is how it's done, it does say "offscreen", so it would be pretty simple to connect the phones to a 720p Screen via HDMI.

In any case, Anandtech has been doing this for year's and they're performing the tests in an industry accepted fashion. Their results are scientific and have been duplicated by many independent third-parties. It's clear the results are accurate.
 
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