iPhone 4S will be 'ancient' within few months

[Savor]

I generally think this 4S is catered for late-bloomers who have never owned an iPhone before (like Sprint customers) and for Apple just to expand the market and not affect any profit margins.

This is a stop gap for something truly better next year. Doesn't mean the 4S is a bad phone. Back in 2009, the 3GS gave us a nearly 200Mhz CPU boost, video camera, and compass. In 2011, 4S is giving us Siri, a better camera, and extra core. The world phone and Bluetooth 4.0 is also pretty cool.

 

[rellimie]

That can't be right. The Samsung Galaxy S II is wiping the floor with the iPhone in benchmarks.

Benchmarks mean very little to most users. When I scroll or pinch to zoom on my iPhone, very smooth. Launching apps, immediate. Taking pictures, fast. Texting and making phone calls, works every time.

On her Samsung, scrolling and zooming jerks most of the time. Some apps take some time to launch. Constantly having to kill apps is annoying. The android camera app blows. The worst part is that sometimes the phone app fails and she stops receiving phone calls but she won't know it until she tries to make a call herself.

I'm sure the specs are great, and tech geeks can get off on that all they want, but the iPhone does everything it needs to do very well and it works every time.

Oh and this screen size argument is moot. Bigger screen doesn't mean more advanced, screen size is a personal preference. I like my 3.5 inch screen, I like the 1 handed use and the way it fits in my pocket. If I switched to android I still wouldn't purchase a large screened phone (and no I'm not 100% apple user, I have a Samsung 7" tablet which I travel with and no, it doesn't work as well as my iPad 2 )

 

[iamthedudeman]

Once again the hypocrisy of the fanboysim is blurrimg this tread. First of all, Apple has always bragged about being the thinnest in all of their products. The iphone 4s is even thicker than the ipad. Yet senior vice president, Phil Schiller got the balls to say that the iphone 4s is the thinnest phone on the market. He has never seen the Samsung Galaxy s2. So size does matter on if it's in Apple advantage. Now suddenly we don't mind the small screen and the thick bulky design. At the same token we criticize other non apple products on their thickness.

Second off all, the iphone 4s is a catch up model to many android devices that are over a year old. And not only the specs, but the os is lagging too. It's for a reason why ios 5 is coming with notification app, which still doesn't match the android. Specs and benchmark results where always Apple's selling point. Now that the iPhone 4 doesn't have the specs nor the benchmark results as the top leading android devices, suddenly these aspects aren't important anymore.

I remember when ipad 1 didn't have a camera. Everyone said the tablet didn't needed one. No one is goin to use a camera on a tablet anyhow. Suddenly all tablets without a camera is junk in the eyes of the apple fanboys.

I give credit to apple when they come up with a game changing device as they have always did with their first generation devices. I used the 3gs for two years the and was very happy with it. Now i got a Samsung Galaxy s2 and can't beleive all the things i missed out on the iphone. Being in the design field where 90% of company's website are in flash, it was a no brainer to go with an android device. Yet the apple crowd don't see that as a dealbreaker. God forbid Apple did have flash support and android didn't, than the who world would be hearing about that daily.

How doesn't the iPhone 4S specs match or beat just about any Android device currently out? The A5 is faster than most if not all Android phones on the market, including the Galaxy S2.

When the iPhone 4S debuts it will be one of the fastest phones if not the fastest, regardless of Ghz. The iPad 2 which has the A5, out performs the Galaxy 2 by a wide margin, even though the Galaxy 2 has a .2 Ghz(200Mhz) advantage. Same goes for the upcoming HTC with the 1.5 Ghz processor. The A5 meets or beats that too. Its not all about the Ghz.

The Gpu in the A5 literally destroys anything out right now. And upcoming into 2012. As you can see how well hardware performs depends on well the OS performs with the hardware. The A5 wins most of the tests.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/14

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17

Now compare those numbers to the Ipad 2 with the A5.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4225/the-ipad-2-review/4

Compare with snapdragon dual core 1.5. On par with Apple A5, comparable.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/2

Stop whining. The specs of the iphone 4S meet or beat the competition. The display while smaller is higher def than anything out right now. The LG will bigger and just as good but will the OS?

It's all about the OS and ecosystem. How well does your OS play with your toys, your Mac, Apple TV if you have one, Mac Pro. What about all your apps, who has the best apps, most features?

Siri looks usefull, the camera while still 8MP is probably better than anything else out there, its sensors are superior most likely judging by the iphone 4's sensors.

Will the specs last for long against the comp, no. Will they give a good user experience yes.


Really the iOS 5 is sluggish. How would you know?

I also own the Int. Galaxy S2 and the non finished iOS 5 I have on my iPhone 4 in my opinion beats it in everything hands down. Am I biased, no. I am not. Just telling it like it is. And i like my S2.

Flash in my opinion is useful but Apple doesn't think so. I agree with you on that.

HTML 5 is the future, so Apple is not with it for not using a outdated tech? How does that make sense. If you need flash good for you. Android is better for you.

Have you used iOS 5 or own a iPhone that does. If not how can you compare the two.

And was Shiller lying about the thinness of the iPhone 4?

Depends on how you look at it. But he wasn't lying.

http://pocketnow.com/iphone/advertising-standards-authority-rules-iphone-4-thinner-than-sgs2

 

[rsvrfactory]

Apple released the iPone 4S and not a totally redesigned one simply becasue they are waiting for the LTE chips to become smaller to fit into the the new slimmer "iP5" we have been seeing. They want the next big redesign to have the LTE capabilities so they gave us the iP4S for now. Next year will be the big redesign with LTE.

 

[Globetrotter]

Benchmarks mean very little to most users. When I scroll or pinch to zoom on my iPhone, very smooth. Launching apps, immediate. Taking pictures, fast. Texting and making phone calls, works every time.

Save this everbody, and re-read it when Apple's next fiscal results are out.

The iPhone 4S will sell even better than the iPhone 4, but there are a good group of fans (myself included) who will wait for the iphone 5 as we already have the 4.

The world goes on..

 

[rockyroad55]

Then don't buy it? Simple as that.

And why get pissed about the A5? That means they're putting something that powers a tablet into a phone!

 

[thermal]

considering apple releases iPhones only once per year, with competitors/Android phones coming out literally every other week...

If a new and improved Android phone comes out every other week, wouldn't it be your new Android purchase that quickly becomes ancient?

 

[marksman]

Have you even tried android on a decent phone? If you have, you'd notice that iOS 5 will actually add a lot of features that are already on other platforms (android included). They say say copying is one of the biggest forms of flattery no?

Yeah and android sucks and the combined experience with hardware integration is even worse. That the handset makers regularly orphan their handsets without ever giving them any updates is also a horrible "feature" of the android world.

My friend, you mistake "best" for "highest selling". Completely brain-washed....

Nope.. Best as in best, as in highest quality, as in most usable, as in most capable as in BEST. B-E-S-T. There is not another phone out there that is close....

The only things anyone EVER says about android devices are individual specs which don't matter. The sum of the parts sucks. , the OS is inferior, the integration of the OS and the hardware is worse than Windows.

No android phone is on the same level as the iPhone and likely never will be.

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You confuse features and specs with usability and performance.

Highest selling is a much better indication of best than meaningless spec charts. When you combine it with highest customer satisfaction rating, it is the definition of best. What good are all those specs if they don't make users happy?

It is almost like he is implying the best phone is one nobody buys and nobody who does buy it likes using.

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I'm pretty sure McDonald's is one of the top-selling restaurants world-wide, yah? They also have above-average customer service and employee training (according to industry stats). SOO, by your logic, they offer some of the best food in the world. Good one.

And no, I'm not confusing anything. I found the SGS2 very usable, and it performed perfectly with every task I put it to.

EDIT: this may blow your fanboy mind, but Windows outsells every other OS out there, including OS X. Does that make it the best OS?

Windows does not dominate in customer satisfaction surveys and neither does mcdonalds.

So what which android phone that nobody buys and that is way below average customer satisfaction surveys do you think is best? LOL.

Wovel is right... When you combine the sales of an industry high priced product being at the top and the highest customer satisfaction numbers, it is pretty much the best and there is no good way to argue against it.

If Porsche 911 sold more cars for 100k than any car maker sold of any type in the world and had the highest customer satisfaction ratings, that car would be considered hands down, the best. That is exactly what Apple has done in the smart phone marketplace.

 

[jamesryanbell]

Ok, well you guys stay disappointed while most of us will be using the best iteration of the best phone on earth. And when iPhone 5 comes out, we'll get that one too.

 

[Number 41]

Ok, well you guys stay disappointed while most of us will be using the best iteration of the best phone on earth. And when iPhone 5 comes out, we'll get that one too.

The best phone on earth should be able to survive a 2 foot drop without shattering. Apple didn't see fit to fix that particular problem with the 4S.

Maybe you can ask Siri for a good place to order replacement glass.

 

[marksman]

I think it's because the iPhone 4s isn't adding anything NEW and different, compared to the recent "android" phones that keep coming out.

Apple introduces Siri. Android phones introduce bigger screens and LTE? What? Apple is the only one introducing anything new and different. Android handset makers are not doing anything innovative or new.

It may not have anything it's lagging compared to current android phones and the best of the best, but considering we have waited a year, you would expect it does change the market, and is completely better.

The iPhone 4 is still the best phone on the market TODAY. And will be until the 4S comes out. This lagging behind talk is nonsense and not proven out by any metric or consideration available anywhere.

In a few months time nokia, samsung etc will introduce phones with most likely new technology, better specs etc and you would expect apple would try and counter that and introduce yet another market "uprising"

They have been doing this for 4 years and nothing has come of it. Same old stuff. The android handset makers have no imagination and they have nothing to do with the OS. They can't really do anything revolutionary or even interesting... So hoping they suddenly will is simply wishful thinking.

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"Ancient" is a little strong, but the new iPhone surely will not be able compete in the premium smartphone market when it approaches mid cycle. Notice how the iPhone 4 did, because it was ahead at introduction. iPhone 4s is behind, or at the very best equal -- and it's still not in stores.

That said, it will probably sell like crazy

Why? The iPhone 4 is still the best smartphone after 16 months, and people said the same thing about the Android phones when it came out.

Nothing changes.

 

[MonkeySee....]

Outdated?

*facepalm*

 

[TLewis]

The iPhone 4S will sell even better than the iPhone 4, but there are a good group of fans (myself included) who will wait for the iphone 5 as we already have the 4.

There's nothing wrong with this, and this isn't even unusual. When the 4 came out, I decided to sit it out, even though I have a 3GS.

I'm currently on the fence on whether or not to get the 4S, but that's not because of the specs or looks. It's because I have an iPad, and the iPad has replaced many of the uses of an iPhone. I could probably wait another year for the next iPhone, although it would be nice to get a better camera, battery, and antenna. We'll see.

 

[nefan65]

My 15 month old iPhone 4 operates smoother, takes better pictures and has a nicer screen than my girlfriends brand new Samsung galaxy.

Yet I'm the outdated one. I'll never understand this argument.

Because the masses look at pure specs, line by line. It's an old, and tired argument. I have the same results as you with my 4 vs. those that I work with who just bought brand new Android handsets.

I've stopped arguing, or justifying why I prefer the iPhone vs. the others. In the end, it's my $$$, my choice, and it works for me. I have invested in their ecosystem, and other than the tethered updates [soon to be obsolete! ], it has everything I need, and it's easy to use.

 

[wrkactjob]

A year with the 4s? If we have to wait 12 months until the next 'new' iPhone the 4S will be a positive antique by next fall with the various competition out there.

The situation at the moment is that nothing does it as well as the iPhone, so I'm not jumping ship yet

But the enemy is advancing!

 

[vincenz]

Doesn't sound like the iPhone is for you, OP. If you're so concerned about specs, go android. But since you're on an iPhone forum, well...

 

[mobilehavoc]

I have both. My iPhone 4 has a better screen, better battery, better email client, etc.

Give me your crappy Samsung Galaxy SII - I'll take the garbage that it is off your hands

 

[grovertdog]

...People are leaving iOS and the iPhone for other products...and they're just a small sample from a Mac-fanboy site!

If so many people are leaving iOS, why then is iPhones 2011 sales growth 55% in a year WITHOUT any new product? Anecdotal evidence from fan blogs can't be extrapolated to a population as a whole. I assure you, there will tens of millions MORE iPhone users as of December 31, 2011 than there were a year earlier, and the same trend will continue thru the 12 months ending June 30, 2012.

BTW - i don't know what type of Big Mac you're eating, but they certainly have their own kind of risk. And there are alternatives out there that are just as quick, if not more so. Just sayin'...

Agreed about Big Macs, and I've not had one in a decade. In & Out or 5 Guys is much more my style if I'm forced to fast food.

 

[cualexander]

See here's the thing. There are 2 philosophies in the mobile phone world.

1.) Throw a bunch of awesome tech specs at it.

2.) Have a polished product that works flawlessly.

Number 1 has failed time and time again. Sure I can find Android phones that may have better specs, bigger screen, etc, but they are still running android. Android just doesn't compare to iOS as far as how things work. I am a long time iPhone user, I had the original, 3G, 3GS, and 4, and I decided to switch to Verizon and I got the Thunderbolt because it had a big screen and it was on a 4G network and it looked cool. After a week, I ran back to the store and swapped it for an iPhone.

Things that I've grown accustomed to working on the iPhone just didn't work properly on the Android. Here's a list, and while they sound minor, they added up to big problems. And they may have fixed them by now, not sure, but it's just illustrative of what goes wrong.

1.) Android Email client couldn't search the servers for past emails. My iPhone can do this and it's helped me out countless numbers of times. I even tried a $9 app and it still couldn't do it, although the developer said he was working on it.

2.) Making a screenshot on the phone. Apple-Press Power and Home. BAM! Android-Root your phone and go through a whole entire complex process, assuming it can be rooted in the first place. If it can't, you're out of luck.

3.) Bluetooth audio switching. I use a pair of bluetooth stereo headphones. With iPhone I can switch between Pandora, Spotify, iPod, YouTube, etc. The audio switches over perfectly everytime. On Android, if you had 1 app that grabbed control of the bluetooth, it might not let it go and you'd hit the next track and it would start the mp3 player instead of Pandora.

4.) Adhoc networking support. I tether my iPhone to my computer at work to speed up internet access. Couldn't do this with Android.

5.) Apps and App Store. Apple's app store is polished and nice. Android's is a huge mess. Also Apple has consistent UI design features. Android doesn't. Android just isn't intuitive. The settings and features of programs are hidden away sometimes and it takes longer to figure them out.

6.) Battery Life. Here's the huge one. 4G phones with big screens suck battery life like CRAZY. What's the use of a fast, big phone if it's dead. Also, every Android user I've ever run into runs some program like "Advanced Task Killer" to manage open apps that are multitasking and save battery life. Do you have to do this with iPhone? Nope. It just works.

Summary. iOS just works. It's elegant and beautiful and is designed very well. Android is just a bunch of hacks thrown together. So even though iPhone 4S may not look as flashy as the latest Android gadget, it's still the best smartphone on the market.

 

[Category 5]

600 HP and lawnmower tires loses to 152 HP put to pavement every time. Apple has said time and time again that their dominance in this market comes from marketing an experience while their competition continues to market hardware.

The difference between Siri and the competition's voice recognition is that Siri will actually work and make the experience more rich. It is not a tech gimmick like voice control has been up until now. the few videos I've seen of attempts to fool it prove that. It can even discern a heavy accent.

The camera, CPU, antenna and software improvement ARE what was expected in an iPhone 5. The only thing the predictions got wrong are a slightly larger screen and new form factor. The iPhone 4S might as well have been called the 5 and it would have pleased many more.

As for the network Apple not only fixed the antenna issue but they allowed the dual antennas to work like bonded channels to double the throughput of the 3G network. I'd wager we'll see a lot better average data rates through the current mature 3G network than we would have on the "theoretically" faster 4G networks for a significant amount of time. 4G has 33% more THEORETICAL bandwidth.

The iPhone 4s kept the slick design of the iPhone 4 so they didn't feel right calling it a 5, but on all other counts it delivered an appreciable and quite realistic list of improvements. iPhone 4 users who play around on their friends iPhone 4s will undoubtedly have to have one.

As far as Android's growth, that will be further hindered by Sprint offering an iPhone. Every single person I know with an Android phone lists network choice as the reason they didn't get an iPhone. I have yet to interface with an android phone that doesn't feel as though the software was pieced together. It feels like I am working a computer, not a streamlined device. Apple has the user experience market cornered. As far as apps go forget about it. Apple trounces all others. Apple has all the best apps, Android users "have an app sorta like that".

Personally, I always thought the iPhone 4 was the slickest design out there. It's the only phone that feels like a Mercedes. The competition simply feels like they are trying hard to be one.

 

[TLewis]

1.) Android Email client couldn't search the servers for past emails. My iPhone can do this and it's helped me out countless numbers of times. I even tried a $9 app and it still couldn't do it, although the developer said he was working on it.

In all fairness, this is dependent upon your email provider and which interface you use to access mail.

I use google sync (microsoft exchange) to access my gmail account, and server-side searching from Apple's email client has never worked for me. That doesn't bother me, though, as I prefer using google's web client to access gmail anyway (e.g., I can choose to delete OR archive, and I have better/working email searching).

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I'm pretty sure McDonald's is one of the top-selling restaurants world-wide, yah? They also have above-average customer service and employee training (according to industry stats). SOO, by your logic, they offer some of the best food in the world. Good one.

Actually, they do make the best fries.

 

[petvas]

I have an iPhone 4 and I am getting the iPhone 4S too. The speed improvement, plus Siri (which I never thought I would ever use but the demos convinced me otherwise) and the new antenna design are reasons enough for me to buy the product. I don't want a larger screen (ok maybe a bit but no way over 4"). The iPhone has still the best design on the market so I don't really care that Apple decided to keep the same design for the iPhone 4S.

 

[dhy8386]

Never usually get involved in these discussions because there is a tremendous amount of personal bias, misunderstanding, stubbornness, and overall fanboyism/anti-fanboyism that no matter how persuasive your point, you'll still have fans on each side of the aisle. That said, there are a few points that have not been discussed which are more factual and are worth noting, especially for the OP who I am only interested in responding to since he/she sounds unsure about what to do.

Point 1: iPhone "5". There was a spot on little article by either Gruber or CNET about why there was no iPhone 5 - simply it all has to do with carrier contracts. Unlike in other countries, the 2 year contract for subsidized pricing is standard in the US. As such, it is clear Apple, now involved in the phone game, understands this and as a one product phone company, is on the same 2 year cycle for major phone refreshes. This point was made before the 4S came out and was the main reason why i would have bet the farm that this was an incremental upgrade. The majority of people do not "early upgrade" their phones until eligible and the ones that do are the ones that will continue to do so and will buy every incremental iPhone/Android upgrade. Apple is the only company that has to really abide by these laws since they control the OS and the hardware, for better or worse for them and us. All other manufacturers are hardware only and thus there business is putting out multiple phones a year to appeal to as many people as possible. And since they have no idea when a new OS is coming, they cannot rely on that as their differentiator. Your comparison to the iPad and pissed off people is not relevant in this conversation since its a completely different product and has a free and clear data plan - and thus what Apple does with the iPad is different since its not tied to cellular contracts. Advice: You will not see another iPhone until next year so that should be a major consideration for you in your decision since you should be thinking of the 4S as the Apple phone to compare for the next 12 months.

Point 2: Specs. Not going to debate if an A5 or a snapdragon dual core is better nor am I going debate who has the slightly better camera or whether bigger screen is better. Here is the reality. The "antiquated" argument is ridiculous if you are trying to say the 1280x720 screen comes out and Apples 960X540 screen is old technology. Similarly the same on the processors. Technology advances every day. Tomorrows tech will be newer than yesterdays. If you were just buying one of those components the choice is easy. But you are not. You are buying everything from just a simple phone with a browser to an entire user experience and mobile ecosystem. Its user dependant. A little not so obvious yet very obvious reality. Software is more important than hardware in today's hardware commoditized world. That is not to say hardware doesn't have an impact but a straight hardware comparison is simply irrelevant when comparing different mobile OSs/phones. I own an iPhone 4 and a Droid Bionic. Feel free to look up the spec comparison. But the Bionic has a lot of this "newer" technology as you might refer to it when compared to the iPhone 4. Which is a better phone? Not worth me answering since i have no idea how to define better. But I can tell you this which is not really debatable. The iPhone is still an incredibly more fluid/simple/integrated user experience overall and the tight integration between hardware and software is clearly a tremendous advantage that no other major competitor (android/windows) enjoys - unfortunately. Everything else is certainly open for debate. Advice: Instead of spec matching or worrying about LTE or NFC, ask yourself 1) How do I use my phone most of my day, 2) What can I not live without, 3) Is there something coming which is a must have and thus worth me waiting. Apples tight integration with its app store, music and multimedia content, other devices, soon to be iCloud (although yet to be tested how important/well/necessary this is), etc may be too great for you to pass up. Or as a google user, Androids tight integration with Google services may also make your feel the same way. But for most people, the answers to 1 and 2 will drive their purchase decision much more heavily than screen size, a few mghz, or a few megapixels. Despite the marketing. And there is good reason for this - in real world usage, most of this stuff is just not noticeable and impactful enough to supersede the above. A small anecdote to this point as it related to LTE. LTE is fast. And Boat Browser I think is the best Android browser. The combo is deadly and compared to the iPhone 4 with just CDMA and Safari (still my fav), obviously its no contest when i compare downloading files or how fast I can load content rich site. Practically speaking - I browse tons of sites most of which are mobile optimized and access much of my content these days through RSS app and Twitter. When I actually decided to compare usage for a few days, it was pretty clear for me the LTE benefit sounds amazing but just didn't play out that way in daily usage. Hence why you need to ask yourself the questions above because its really the only thing that matters and goes so much further in helping you answer your key question.

Point 3: All this comparing who sells the most phones, who has the most market share, Apple is doomed or Apple is in trouble or Android sucks because its fragmented is such rubbish. Its really so simple. Apple has now invented and defined and revolutionized three major mobile categories. MP3 players, Smartphones, and tablets. Lets forget MP3 because its on its way our as a standalone category. The firsts in each of these categories were so game changing that nothing post can compare to them. Not from Apple and not from anyone else. These markets are still relatively new and the name of the game is incremental innovation. Each OS has its pros and cons. I actually give credit to MSFT for trying to break the apple/android mold but lets be honest guys, everything being done is small innovations. All three of these OSs are in relative equal maturity and parity. And that is a very sobering thought if you comprehend it. iOS is the leader and Android is close. MSFT is way behind and if you really want to see innovation out of Apple and Google then we should all be rooting for MSFT and Nokia. They have the most ground to make up and parity with Android and Apple aint gonna cut it. And unfortunately, as long as Google continues to play games with Android (not open sourcing the os right away, doing foolish things like buying motorola), the handset manufacturers are heavily handicapped in what they can produce because of their inability to control software and hardware like Apple.

Last point. Siri may end up being a very big innovation, maybe even possibly revolutionary. Or it may be nothing more than Ping 2. Apple may not have invented it (they bought it) but give them credit for recognizing this as a potential game changer (they have been talking about this concept for years) and buying it and tightly integrating it. It may not be as risky as trying to define a category but it certainly is more than an incremental innovation attempt. It really should not be blown off as easily as some people are doing until we all spend some serious time with it. I really hope we see google and MSFT make similar attempts at innovation in this market because competition should be embraced not used as a club by one one fanboy to bash another.

 

[miggitymac]

Nope.. Best as in best, as in highest quality, as in most usable, as in most capable as in BEST. B-E-S-T. There is not another phone out there that is close....

That's funny...correct me if I'm wrong, but the 4S hasn't even come out yet. Have you used it? Played with iOS 5 on it? Have you used any other phone that might be coming out...oh...in about 6 days or so? While we're at it, have you even used any other smartphone for an extended period of time before? How can you say that the iPhone 4S is absolutely the most usable, most capable, highest quality and BEST, when the friggin' thing hasn't even been in your hands? Because that's what other people are saying?

So what which android phone that nobody buys and that is way below average customer satisfaction surveys do you think is best? LOL.

Who says they're way below average customer satisfaction surveys...you? Credible source I'm sure, but please give me more. And no one's buying the Galaxy S2 or is going to buy the Nexus Prime, huh? Dream on...

If Porsche 911 sold more cars for 100k than any car maker sold of any type in the world and had the highest customer satisfaction ratings, that car would be considered hands down, the best. That is exactly what Apple has done in the smart phone marketplace.

If you're gonna use an analogy, why would you pick cars? Of all the industries in the world, the car industry is probably the worst that you could have used...everyone knows that specs matter in the car industry. Everyone also knows that just because Honda Civics outsell Porsches, it doesn't mean the Civic's a better car. People would laugh in your face if you suggested the top-selling car was also the B-E-S-T car...