Did you just argue that one phone processes things faster than another by comparing page load speeds, when one is LTE and the other is not
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iPhone 5 Benchmarks Appear in Geekbench Showing a Dual Core, 1GHz A6 CPU
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Did you just argue that one phone processes things faster than another by comparing page load speeds, when one is LTE and the other is not
The app argument is completely valid. I am an app developer and Apple is always the main focus when beginning an app. It's much easier to make money through iOS apps then Android. Additionally you are coding to a known family of devices and iOS versions. Android is chaos with all the different device sizes, OS versions, and carrier extensions. There are many great looking, professional Android apps but not to the same extent as iOS.
For the UI, saying it is poorly designed is comical. It's aesthetically pleasing, intuitive, and offers a consistent experience. Android phones are all over the place, forcing the consumer to adjust each time they upgrade.
You clearly don't know what you are talking about with your price argument. Data plans don't vary based on which device you are using. Data is data. For the phone, the price is the same as the high end Android phones. The difference is I can sell my iPhone 4 for 275 bucks, how much will a two year old Android fetch?
Your response on upgrades make no sense. What does iOS 6 have to do with Android phones having terrible support for getting future versions of the OS? You seem to have a problem with facts...
Wow, what a surprise, a phone that is about to be released has a slightly better performance than the S3...Reactions here are amusing.
I would be extremely surprised if the iPhone 5, which hasn't even been released yet, was slower than the competition.
you completely miss the point. The Point is that Android fans typically quote specs of the android devices (IE: SG3) like "Quad core" "2 GB Ram" as proof that the phone is better. These numbers, if correct would prove otherwise, and show that arguing the specs of an Android phone as being better would make that person ignorant.
You are incorrectly thinking that people here are just amazed that a newer phone performs slightly better than the SG3, but they are simply cheering on Apple who was able to make a phone with much lower specs, out perform the SG3
Absolutely negligible. Rounding error from a too-small sample size.
But just being in the same ballpark now (using half the cores and cooler clock rate), given that Apple could sell earlier products enormously well against higher spec'd competition, makes this new iPhone look like it will have even more upside.
This whole issue is totally redundant anyway.
I have an IPhone 4 and a Sony Ericson Ray, which is a year newer than the iPhone and should in theory have a better CPU.
But the problem with the Android is not the specs, it is a fast phone, but the OS. I have frequent system slow downs and freezes when doing simple tasks like trying to open the phone software to make a call, the battery lasts only a few hours if I use it much. (NTT docomo are still only allowing us to use GingerBread, they haven't let us update yet)
The iPhone has iOS.
It feels like when OSX was up against Vista. In that situation, specs didn't matter because it was all about the OS.
Now we have Windows 7, which is actually a really good OS (for enterprise environments). But for usability, OSX still kills it (I haven't downloaded Windows 8 yet so can't comment about it, sorry.
At some point. Android will improve. But so will iOS and at the moment, iOS has the best user experience.
I have an IPhone 4 and a Sony Ericson Ray, which is a year newer than the iPhone and should in theory have a better CPU.
But the problem with the Android is not the specs, it is a fast phone, but the OS. I have frequent system slow downs and freezes when doing simple tasks like trying to open the phone software to make a call, the battery lasts only a few hours if I use it much. (NTT docomo are still only allowing us to use GingerBread, they haven't let us update yet)
The iPhone has iOS.
It feels like when OSX was up against Vista. In that situation, specs didn't matter because it was all about the OS.
Now we have Windows 7, which is actually a really good OS (for enterprise environments). But for usability, OSX still kills it (I haven't downloaded Windows 8 yet so can't comment about it, sorry.
At some point. Android will improve. But so will iOS and at the moment, iOS has the best user experience.
I think VoIP over LTE is a little further out then you think as far as rollout is concerned. They haven't even deployed it in test markets yet.
Just something to consider:
Those results measure theoretical performance. As if each thread was under full load.
That's not what happens in most real-life task. Multi-threading isn't perfect and for most basic interactions with your phone a single thread has the vast majority of the load.
Those results show that a single core of the A6 is about as fast as 2 cores in the GS3 / N7. What this means is that all single-threaded tasks will be twice as fast.
Multi-core performance is always better on paper than in practice, so it's much better to have fewer cores that deliver the same level of performance.
According to Anandtech, launching an application, starting a song, opening an email attachment and saving are all tasks that mostly use a single thread.
Those results measure theoretical performance. As if each thread was under full load.
That's not what happens in most real-life task. Multi-threading isn't perfect and for most basic interactions with your phone a single thread has the vast majority of the load.
Those results show that a single core of the A6 is about as fast as 2 cores in the GS3 / N7. What this means is that all single-threaded tasks will be twice as fast.
Multi-core performance is always better on paper than in practice, so it's much better to have fewer cores that deliver the same level of performance.
According to Anandtech, launching an application, starting a song, opening an email attachment and saving are all tasks that mostly use a single thread.
in·no·va·tion [in-uh-vey-shuhn]
noun
1. something new or different introduced: numerous innovations in the high-school curriculum.
2. the act of innovating; introduction of new things or methods.
Innovation refers to the introduction of things that weren't there before. So the introduction of an anodized aluminum back is innovation. The sapphire glass over the camera is innovation. The new Apple-designed CPU is innovation. The Lightning cable is innovation. Obviously, the larger screen with its touch sensors integrated into the glass is innovation.
The various properties, like the industry-leading thinness, the incredible performance, and the excellent battery life are incremental changes that are made possible by innovation.
I hate how people have double standards. First, numbers don't matter, only real world use does. Of course this is only true when your numbers are lower, but when they're higher, they're the most important thing in the world.
Please, let's just enjoy our devices and stop criticizing people that disagree with our opinions. Do it for the children.
Please, let's just enjoy our devices and stop criticizing people that disagree with our opinions. Do it for the children.
Anandtech posted an analysis of the Geekbench results.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6298/analyzing-iphone5-geekbench-results
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6298/analyzing-iphone5-geekbench-results
Well, this explains why Samsung didn't compare the CPUs of the iPhone 5 and SIII in their recent add.
That's why the speed at 1Ghz is impressive. Obviously Apple designed its own micro architecture to get the best battery vs. speed.
But it's somewhat sad to see the thread devolve into yet another Apple vs. Android thread. GeekBench isn't a good tool compare one platform against another because there are so many factors involved. You can get an idea on the rough raw power available but the user experience doesn't necessarily reflect that.
On the other hand, we know iPhone 4S is a joy to use so iPhone 5 at double the GeekBench score should be a doozy.
Apple didn't even bother packing quad-core into that... Can you imagine if it had 2 more cores?
Holy crap.
Spec race fandroids? You need to start appreciating everything as a whole not solely your specs. Reminds me of the time windows laptop makers were stuffing their laptops with lots of ram but apple was still sitting on 1GB/2GB ram and still running smoother.
Specs don't do jack samsung.
Holy crap.
Spec race fandroids? You need to start appreciating everything as a whole not solely your specs. Reminds me of the time windows laptop makers were stuffing their laptops with lots of ram but apple was still sitting on 1GB/2GB ram and still running smoother.
Specs don't do jack samsung.
Its funny how all the people in this thread have yet to acknowledge the posts that have the S3 as higher than the iPhone 5
Some of us don't really care. A phone with 4 cores isn't much, much faster than a phone with 2 cores clocked much lower. Is that what you expected?
you hold the phone to your ear? you know they came out with these new bluetooth headsets for that.
I email, txt, surf for 90% of my IPhone use. I want a bigger screen, Note 2 is high on my list.
If we are going to choose one iPhone 5 test to compare with the average of 1000+ i9300 benchmarks, we should just pick one i9300 benchmark to start from. There's a lot to choose from, providing we don't choose the 2000+.
Sure, you can overclock the Galaxy S3 to 1800MHz if you don't care about battery life.Its funny how all the people in this thread have yet to acknowledge the posts that have the S3 as higher than the iPhone 5
As has been noted repeatedly in this thread, the S3's scores at stock speed vary dramatically depending on the OS, the power management settings, and the android services that are running in the background. You can disable power saving features (or run the benchmark while charging) and background processes like notifications, and increase the S3's score by 10-20%, but not many folks are interested in a crippled functionality with half the battery life.
Furthermore, as mentioned earlier, Geekbench has not been recompiled with Apple's Xcode v4.5 compiler to take advantage of some enhanced functions in the A6. We'll have to wait and see, but that could boost the iPhone 5's score by another 10% or more.