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Its funny how all the people in this thread have yet to acknowledge the posts that have the S3 as higher than the iPhone 5:rolleyes:

In Android, by turning off options and forcing power management in certain modes, you can set your phone to artificially do well on the benchmark, which is rather unrealistic and not entirely indicative of the real performance. Comparing iPhone vs. another phone through GeekBench isn't an exact science.

However we safely can conclude that iPhone 5 has excellent raw power that is competitive with anything out there right now. And being that it's doing that with just two cores, it'll probably feel faster in real usage than what the benchmark tells us.

Most important fact: it has twice the raw power of iPhone 4S and guessing from the lockspeed, it looks like Apple has figured out a way to achieve that power with reasonable battery consumption.

Don't they make both of them though? It makes sense they wouldn't "call out" one processor against the other if they produce both of them.

They don't share the design, just the factory. As a rough comparison AMD and nVidia chips are both made by the same company(TSMC).
 
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Although Geekbench is cross platform, I wouldn't recommend using this data to do anything other than compare iOS devices. I've looked at using Geekbench to compare iOS to Android in the past and I've sometimes seen odd results.

I'm sure we'll learn a lot more about the A6 SoC over the coming days/weeks.

The big news out of these tests should be that Apple's attempt at a custom CPU (not an A9 and not an A15) is good. Their acquisitions are paying off. THAT IS THE REAL NEWS!!
 
It still is a catch-up device that only brings minor improvements to iPhone customers.

So if you repeat that five times it's easier to sleep at night or ??? I love these sentiments....

What's "minor" - the change in the number of new items on a checklist?

Or actual features and capabilities that normal people desire?

If your looking at it purely from a list of hardware checklist boxes, then sure - the iPhone 5 is probably a disappointment. Then again, by now this should HARDLY be a surprise. If your driven by raw data and can only get excited at laundry lists of new items then iOS isn't the platform for you. And there's nothing wrong with that - go off to some other vendor that will cater to your narrow sensibilities.

But to hint, as was done with the iPhone 4S, that there is "nothing new" and imply the iPhone 5 will be anything other than successful is stupid and idiotic. Be prepared for your opinion to be thoroughly trounced by yet again the fastest and largest launch of any iPhone model. Just like all the previous iPhone launches, starting with the very first one when Apple was completely unproven in the phone space.

Why am I so certain you are once again going to be embarrassingly incorrect in your assessment? Unlike your narrow view of success, most people evaluate these gadgets from the perspective of them being tools - not technology for the sake of technology. And as a whole, the hardware, software and services all together are what will make the iPhone a complete and utter success - not some narrow view of one portion of the iPhone in isolation. Take off the geek blinders....
 
Taking note of these results, i'll be picking up my 16GB Sprint iPhone 5 Friday morning with this quote in my head....

"Anyone can build a fast CPU. The trick is to build a fast system. "
- Seymour Cray

And Apple did just that!
 
If this is what Cortex A15 brings, 2013 is going to be a very interesting year for Smartphones. We're reaching the point where the Motorola Atrix concept might be more than just a gimmick and might just become a true reality.

iPhone that docks into a laptop shell and becomes a full OS X system ? Docks into your TV to serve as an Apple TV ?

I can't wait until I have 1 and only 1 computing device that fits into my pocket, yet can be used on my desk to perform all my tasks while connected to a keyboard/mouse/monitor or then transform into a HTPC type device for my Home Theater, etc..
 
They won't be ahead for long on this.

What "this" - having a higher number on some arbitrary benchmark?

If more than 1% of all iPhone owners even know there is such a thing as geekbench, let alone care enough to know what that number is I'd be greatly astonished.
 
Oooh look at the SPECS!!! My bandroid has a six core processor with 8gb of ram. It's clunky and I only get about 12 minutes of battery, but look at the specs!

This is a great win for Apple. It's all excuses out of the Android camp now:

The phone is old
The iPhone still didn't "innovate"
The scores were close

Sorry, but iOS curb stomps Android in UX, and now it has better "specs" too. There's nothing left. Samsung may as well just copy the entire phone and pay the fines. They lose.

Just imagine how badly they'd get slapped around if Apple really did "innovate" since they are so convinced they don't.

My phone is better than your phone!

Neener neener neener ;-P
 
Its the most powerful Android phone. So comparing the newest iPhone against the most powerful Android phone is a fair comparison.

Fandroids all over the internet all compare the spec sheet of the iPhone 5 against that of the SIII... They opened the door. They can't claim its superior and hide behind "Well its older" when they found out it isn't.

Yeah, but apparently that is what they just did... I was expecting a better response from them honestly (something like why the geekbench results said nothing about real world use or something, instead they came up with some see through excuse).

Thank you for pointing that out (yes, we can compare our new iphone to the SIII when you guys have been doing it since before the keynote even! If you didn't want to compare that phone to the iphone, then you shouldn't have started it!!!! And all the sudden when something comes out that the iphone is better at, you suddenly whine that the SIII is an older device. Correct me if I'm wrong but it's not that much older. It's only been out maybe a month or so and it seems to be the pinnacle of phones Android fans keep using to say how crappy the iphone is. If you can't take it, don't dish it).

*grumble* Usually I try to say each to their own but honestly I'm really getting sick of the crap being thrown by some android fanatics who can't understand they are as obnoxious as the "isheep" they claim to detest. If you detest some one, why do you act like that person?

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Thinner and lighter has nothing to do with CPU (and A6) is quite a big chip. It has everything to do with skimping on baseband chips (one compared totwo in Android phones), RAM, NFC chip, battery size, wireless charging and memory card/port.

They didn't skimp on RAM, it got increased. You do have a point about antennas but I'll say I don't care cause I'm on AT&T :p, NFC would have been nice true but it's not *that* important, it's getting better battery life than my 4 or the 4S so who cares if the battery is not that much bigger? It's perfomance that matters, remember?, and apple didn't sacrifice memory card/port for space, that was something they just never were going to put in (and honestly, the guy who was saying their justification is right. I had an HP iPaq with a compact flash and SD card reader before the iphone, and yes I made fun of the iphone for not having removable storage, but I honestly just used one of the SD cards most the time because it was a bother changing them back and forth. When I went to the iphone I realized how nice it is to just have enough storage to put everything I want in without having to worry about which card it is on. And, well, Apple benefits cause they can make more money that way. So they are never going to put in a removable storage and space is only a small consideration why).
 
Lets be realistic most torrents are used for illegal software and why do people insist on calling others "dude" and "bro" sound like your either 14 or stoned.. probably both.

I can't imagine a more inaccurate perception. That's like saying most guns are used for killing people.

It's very easy, if you don't have knowledge about a topic, don't post.
 
Let me summarize.

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Wow, impressive numbers, assuming they hold up.
They are especially impressive compared to the quad-core CPUs.
4 cores arent are only useful when you actually have four CPU-intensive things to do at once. That's not really common on a phone.
 
Misleading

Even though i'm a fan of apple, i still have to uphold the truth.... the news is wrong... here is the result from geekbench : http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/compare/1030202/1033038
it clearly showed that the s3 is a clear winner... please update your news title cause this is misleading. thanks you.
 
Thinner and lighter has nothing to do with CPU (and A6) is quite a big chip. It has everything to do with skimping on baseband chips (one compared totwo in Android phones), RAM, NFC chip, battery size, wireless charging and memory card/port.

Do you honestly believe that Apple "skimped" on baseband chips? You've just earned the King Bonehead crown. Reducing the number of baseband chips will be done by every OEM in the near future.

As for the RAM, it's only useful if I can take advantage of it. Maybe I should use my HP ML350p Gen8 workstation with 32GB of RAM instead of my home desktop. It has more RAM!!

And Apple didn't skimp on battery life. They claimed battery life improved, even with LTE.

The only interesting features I would miss are NFC and wireless charging. Neither are deal breakers. As for removable storage... hahahaha...
 
Lets be realistic most torrents are used for illegal software and why do people insist on calling others "dude" and "bro" sound like your either 14 or stoned.. probably both.

Most != all the person said nothing for anyone to assume anything he was doing was illegal. To the second, neither I'm quite possibly the most straight edged 26 year old in the world, haven't even touched a cigarette.
 
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This news article is going to make iOS users look worse in the long run, after there are more than just 1 iPhone 5 test and falls back down to ~1000 to 1200s due to law of averages.

It's just next week.

I would hold my tongue before touting and provoking android/sgs3 users. It's gonna come back and haunt us.
 
I got excited until I read...

"Poole acknowledges that any pre-release results on Geekbench have a chance of being faked".

So I think I'll wait for the official numbers.
 
Its funny how all the people in this thread have yet to acknowledge the posts that have the S3 as higher than the iPhone 5:rolleyes:
Sorry.
The memory score showed that your posts are meaningless.

How can the total score increased when the memory score kept decreasing:cool:?

Everyone can upload the score of Geekbench.
And it seems we have no idea if the user had tweaked anything in the result.
So any comparing "NOW" is meaningless.
We need someone to help testing the phones at the same time with their latest OS and default setting.

Also comparing the total score is meaningless.
Assuming the s3 with 2k score and ip5 with 1.6k score is real, we can see that the read-and-write performance is really terrible on s3.
(I think you will argue about the Write Sequential. But I never heard that the writing speed can outnumber the reading speed)
In the calculating part, we can see that neither ip5 or s3 can win each other in single-core part. s3 is only winning in multi-core path.
Of course, we are "assuming" this score is not tweaked.... But who can trust when the memory score is kept bouncing on s3?
 
I don't think Apple fans who are pleased with this result actually care that in a short while the next Android will surpass it. Its only meaningful because the hordes of Android fans on this forum (which I totally don't understand), were adamant that the iPhone 5 was a disgrace because of so called underwhelming specs.

This is just a little bit of good oll rubbing it in.

Pretty much.
 
If this is what Cortex A15 brings, 2013 is going to be a very interesting year for Smartphones. We're reaching the point where the Motorola Atrix concept might be more than just a gimmick and might just become a true reality.

iPhone that docks into a laptop shell and becomes a full OS X system ? Docks into your TV to serve as an Apple TV ?

I can't wait until I have 1 and only 1 computing device that fits into my pocket, yet can be used on my desk to perform all my tasks while connected to a keyboard/mouse/monitor or then transform into a HTPC type device for my Home Theater, etc..

I'll be "blown away" if this isn't what the bulk of everyday computing looks like for most people in the next 3-5 years. ;)

Seriously though, I think Apple, Samsung, Google, Microsoft, and all the players know that the vision you describe is dead-on, and the device you have in your pocket all day long will probably end up becoming most people's ONLY device. Game console, "desktop" computer, and mobile device, probably also front-end to home entertainment system. This is why the battle for the mobile space is such a high stakes game -- it's really the battle for the future of mass market computing in general.

And with Apple eating up something like 70 percent or more of the entire global mobile industry's profits, they are clearly the player to beat. I hate to say it, but business 101 people -- it's about profit, not units sold. You can sell a device at cost or a loss (like most of the mobile manufacturers right now, other than Samsung) but it's totally irrelevant, and your share holders will punish you dearly. It always has been and always will be about profitability.
 
Lets be realistic most torrents are used for illegal software and why do people insist on calling others "dude" and "bro" sound like your either 14 or stoned.. probably both.

lol couldn't agree more. Usually the average age is the pimple faced teen when it comes to bagging Apple. Keyboard warriors who sit on FPS games all night (sleep during day) and think they are a spec op marine in real life.
 
What "this" - having a higher number on some arbitrary benchmark?

If more than 1% of all iPhone owners even know there is such a thing as geekbench, let alone care enough to know what that number is I'd be greatly astonished.

By "this", I mean the hardware performance. The bench is supposed to be a realistic test of it.
 
Do you honestly believe that Apple "skimped" on baseband chips? You've just earned the King Bonehead crown. Reducing the number of baseband chips will be done by every OEM in the near future.

As for the RAM, it's only useful if I can take advantage of it. Maybe I should use my HP ML350p Gen8 workstation with 32GB of RAM instead of my home desktop. It has more RAM!!

And Apple didn't skimp on battery life. They claimed battery life improved, even with LTE.

The only interesting features I would miss are NFC and wireless charging. Neither are deal breakers. As for removable storage... hahahaha...

and again on the storage. My iphone currently is using 12.5GB of data. I could easily sit with a 16GB iPhone 5. Apple haters are all about specs vs real world performance, usability and aesthetics. They will never understand these three terms either.
 
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