iPhone 5 - black version scuffs (merged)

[Gix1k]

What happened?

She told me I needed to wait in the line even if I get a paper saying I'm guaranteed a phone. So basically they are handing out a paper to the people that they have enough for. So if I get in line and they have stock to exchange my phone, I need to wait like everyone else. I find that to be BS, since I'm simply exchanging.

 

[darster]

+1

This should not be happening on a $1,000+ dollar device.

Does not look like scuff to me.

 

[TroyBoy30]

I know you guys are famous for looking for the smallest issue, looking for light bleed in a close for example, but claiming to find a flaw in a device that you don't have yet is amazingly anal. Wait till you get he darn thing before you claim it's an issue.

 

[kellte2]

Does not look like scuff to me.

The sim slot "scuff" is nonexistent. People shouldn't be worried about minor machined imperfections like that.

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She told me I needed to wait in the line even if I get a paper saying I'm guaranteed a phone. So basically they are handing out a paper to the people that they have enough for. So if I get in line and they have stock to exchange my phone, I need to wait like everyone else. I find that to be BS, since I'm simply exchanging.

I'm not going to go on launch day. Too much nonsense to deal with. We know we'll get a white one eventually, why deal with the headache of the crowds?

 

[irispen]

It does look very nice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CpgnmfIXJ0

white does look good, especially the back its like a mini macbook.

its just that to many girls in the office that are using white iphone4/4s and the front of iphone 5 is almost the same.

the black one is still better IMO because the front of the phone is black, if only the color of side and back are all silver then it would be just like a macbook pro.

 

[Oppressed]

Anyone else feel almost relieved after the first scuff or scratch? When that happens I tend to take off my kid gloves with my device and don't care about subsequent scratches.

 

[jkim3691]

She told me I needed to wait in the line even if I get a paper saying I'm guaranteed a phone. So basically they are handing out a paper to the people that they have enough for. So if I get in line and they have stock to exchange my phone, I need to wait like everyone else. I find that to be BS, since I'm simply exchanging.

Your avy so very much suits you....

 

[iPhisch]

I ordered one of these. http://www.macally.com/EN/?page_id=6243
I've had my iPhone 4 caseless for a year, and there are just a few subtle scratches on the glass on the back, mostly from just laying it down on things. This should elevate the back off of surfaces, and protect the sides. Only thing I'm curious about is of the bottom opening is big enough for the new Lightning port to fully plug in. We'll see...

 

[darster]

To people worried about scuffs on a black phone, don't ever buy a new dark colored car. Every car comes with swirl marks in the clear coat. Every car. You will have to spend hundreds to have it professionally detailed, and the first time you was your car and dry it off, new swirls will emerge. There is nothing a car maker can do to prevent it from occurring, no matter how hard or soft the paint is. Anytime you put paint on a piece of metal, no matter the quality of the paint or surface, it will scratch, it will wear off. If you don't like scratches in the paint, get a plastic phone such as the SG3. Remember how easy it was to scratch the back of the first iphone or any of the ipods? Those scratches make this issue an non issue.

 

[kellte2]

To people worried about scuffs on a black phone, don't ever buy a new dark colored car. Every car comes with swirl marks in the clear coat. Every car. You will have to spend hundreds to have it professionally detailed, and the first time you was your car and dry it off, new swirls will emerge. There is nothing a car maker can do to prevent it from occurring, not matter how hard or soft the paint is. Anytime you put paint on a piece of metal, no matter the quality of the paint or surface, it will scratch, it will wear off. If you don't scratches in the paint, get a plastic phone such as the SG3. Remember how easy it was to scratch the back of the first iphone or any of the ipods? Those scratches make this issue an non issue.

using other problems to explain away this one isn't a persuasive strategy.

 

[AFDoc]

She told me I needed to wait in the line even if I get a paper saying I'm guaranteed a phone. So basically they are handing out a paper to the people that they have enough for. So if I get in line and they have stock to exchange my phone, I need to wait like everyone else. I find that to be BS, since I'm simply exchanging.

So you should be able to go to the front of the line because YOU aren't happy with your color choice? Wow, what a sense of entitlement you have.

YOU want to swap it out so why should some person that's been standing in line all night (possibly) have to be displaced by you? Again, wow.

 

[logicpro7]

white does look good, especially the back its like a mini macbook.

its just that to many girls in the office that are using white iphone4/4s and the front of iphone 5 is almost the same.

the black one is still better IMO because the front of the phone is black, if only the color of side and back are all silver then it would be just like a macbook pro.

In the iFixit tear down, it looks like changing the front to black would be a 10 minute job.

 

[sawah]

These threads are ridiculous. You don't even have the phone yet. I'm sticking with black and apparently I'll be the only one who has one :/

 

[Rafterman]

Are you people freakin' kidding me? Just about every device I've seen with a metal surface and door that tiny has that "flaking". Its not even flaking, its just the byproduct of a tiny manufactured part like that.

I looked at my existing iPhone 4S and there is a tiny "lip" around the sim slot door. If you were to paint it black, it would look slightly jagged - and that is what you are seeing in the video.

A few annecdotal incidents reported by people and you are all going off the deep end. The device isn't even out yet, and already the Apple OCD squad is in full force.

 

[Gix1k]

So you should be able to go to the front of the line because YOU aren't happy with your color choice? Wow, what a sense of entitlement you have.

YOU want to swap it out so why should some person that's been standing in line all night (possibly) have to be displaced by you? Again, wow.

You aren't reading, fella. They would hand me a paper saying I'd get one due to my place in line, so no one is missing out that's waiting. It doesn't make sense if you're telling me there's enough to exchange my device that I have to wait 4hrs to do an exchange!

Read clearly before you come in making dumb comments, pipe

 

[AFDoc]

You aren't reading, fella. They would hand me a paper saying I'd get one due to my place in line, so no one is missing out that's waiting. It doesn't make sense if you're telling me there's enough to exchange my device that I have to wait 4hrs to do an exchange!

Read clearly before come in making dumb comments, pipe

Yes, you will be getting a paper saying you have get one. So will 50 other people in front of you. Why should you be able to go in front of all those in front of you with the same paper simply because you are only exchanging it? I understand the situation but not your sense of entitlement.

 

[Gix1k]

Yes, you will be getting a paper saying you have get one. So will 50 other people in front of you. Why should you be able to go in front of all those in front of you with the same paper simply because you are only exchanging it? I understand the situation but not your sense of entitlement.

Because if I simply wanted to go get my money back, I could bypass the line and walk right to counter and do a return. That should be the same process, if I'm not taking away from anyone that's been in line waiting.

 

[sixteen12]

You guys need to calm down. Look at the iFixit pictures, there is dust on the edges making it look silver. Honestly people are freaking out over an issue that can't exist since the phone isn't even out yet.

 

[darster]

using other problems to explain away this one isn't a persuasive strategy.

Then don't ever, ever, ever buy a phone that has painted metal. Why do you think all the other major phone makers (Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc) make their phones encased in plastic? Because metal scratches, paint chips off. A simple course in metallurgy would tell you that.

 

[Domino8282]

There's really no reason to get petty and defensive about it. No, I'm not an expert and my posted indicated as such. However, we have photographic proof of what appears to be a problem to my untrained eye. We also have two review websites mentioning a potential problem. The only reason I question the process is because anodized finishes don't just rub off and most finishes don't have some fancy diamond shaving process applied as a post-process.

I don't want this to be a real thing anymore than anyone else on this board. I also don't want to deal with it myself it is an actual thing.

Can't find the part where your "posted indicated as such." I'm not sure exactly what we have photographic "proof" of. I really wouldn't call it petty or defensive to question the usefulness of tracing a potential problem with demo units of an unreleased phone back to a manufacturing process highlighted for 30 seconds in a promotional video. Although I guess this whole "Scuff Gate" is just MacRumors living up to the "Rumors" part of its name. As in, unsubstantiated hearsay and pure supposition.

Sorry for taking it out on you though... It's nothing personal. I guess the part of your earlier post that irked me was the "so much for the diamond finish" bit, like you had settled the whole issue with your explanation or something. I've just read too many posts here lately where people draw broad sweeping conclusions based on no factual info.

 

[kellte2]

What I just don't understand is how people are acting incredulous about whether or not this is an actual "thing." Some review units and some demo units have been offered as photographic proof of this problem's existence. Barring some different manufacturing process for retail units, it is fair to expect similar wear to show up relatively quickly on retail units when they're unboxed tomorrow.

Even if painted metal is susceptible to chipping or rubbing, how can anyone explain that what we've seen is reasonable wear and tear? Given the short period of time and the extent of the photographic evidence - coupled with explanations of use - this simply should not be happening. If you don't care if it does happen, then fine. But please don't come on here and act like caring is silly or out of line. Some might take things a bit far and/or hysterically, but it fair to be upset over this on a gadget enthusiast forum.

 

[rtr1985]

Can't find the part where your "posted indicated as such." I'm not sure exactly what we have photographic "proof" of. I really wouldn't call it petty or defensive to question the usefulness of tracing a potential problem with demo units of an unreleased phone back to a manufacturing process highlighted for 30 seconds in a promotional video. Although I guess this whole "Scuff Gate" is just MacRumors living up to the "Rumors" part of its name. As in, unsubstantiated hearsay and pure supposition.

Sorry for taking it out on you though... It's nothing personal. I guess the part of your earlier post that irked me was the "so much for the diamond finish" bit, like you had settled the whole issue with your explanation or something. I've just read too many posts here lately where people draw broad sweeping conclusions based on no factual info.

Straw Man argument here--Saying there is "no factual" basis and then dismissing these concerns as irrational because it is not 9/21 8:00am yet.

There are not a lot of facts, but there are some:

1) Most agree anodized aluminum can be susceptible to wear and tear if not done with care

2) Slashgear and pocket-lint review mentioned it. One provided actual photos of the issue.

3) Some posters have uploaded photos of very similar issues.

 

[kellte2]

Can't find the part where your "posted indicated as such." I'm not sure exactly what we have photographic "proof" of. I really wouldn't call it petty or defensive to question the usefulness of tracing a potential problem with demo units of an unreleased phone back to a manufacturing process highlighted for 30 seconds in a promotional video. Although I guess this whole "Scuff Gate" is just MacRumors living up to the "Rumors" part of its name. As in, unsubstantiated hearsay and pure supposition.

Sorry for taking it out on you though... It's nothing personal. I guess the part of your earlier post that irked me was the "so much for the diamond finish" bit, like you had settled the whole issue with your explanation or something. I've just read too many posts here lately where people draw broad sweeping conclusions based on no factual info.

I said "My guess..." A guess indicates that I have no solid/technical basis for that opinion. Questioning "photographic proof" means you're clearly ignoring several posted pictures littered over the course of this thread. My apologies for drawing a conclusion based on several different photos depicting the coating on the metal of the black iPhone 5 utterly failing.

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Straw Man argument here--Saying there is "no factual" basis and then dismissing these concerns as irrational because it is not 9/21 8:00am yet.

There are not a lot of facts, but there are some:

1) Most agree anodized aluminum can be susceptible to wear and tear if not done with care

2) Slashgear and pocket-lint review mentioned it. One provided actual photos of the issue.

3) Some posters have uploaded photos of very similar issues.

All of this.

 

[x-evil-x]

white does look good, especially the back its like a mini macbook.

its just that to many girls in the office that are using white iphone4/4s and the front of iphone 5 is almost the same.

the black one is still better IMO because the front of the phone is black, if only the color of side and back are all silver then it would be just like a macbook pro.

Go hybrid. Change the front glass to black and get black or carbon fiber covers for the back glass.

 

[rtr1985]

What I just don't understand is how people are acting incredulous about whether or not this is an actual "thing." Some review units and some demo units have been offered as photographic proof of this problem's existence. Barring some different manufacturing process for retail units, it is fair to expect similar wear to show up relatively quickly on retail units when they're unboxed tomorrow.

Even if painted metal is susceptible to chipping or rubbing, how can anyone explain that what we've seen is reasonable wear and tear? Given the short period of time and the extent of the photographic evidence - coupled with explanations of use - this simply should not be happening. If you don't care if it does happen, then fine. But please don't come on here and act like caring is silly or out of line. Some might take things a bit far and/or hysterically, but it fair to be upset over this on a gadget enthusiast forum.

Exactly. So much faith in Apple and their care in analyzing these types of issues; yet, you think they would be careless enough to send "demo" units that are somehow inherently defective??