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Really! You buy into Apples marketing? Wake up and let me educate you.

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Yes, there are pros and cons to all smartphones, but don't show up at the papal mass trying to convert folks from Catholicism to atheism. Just a waste of your breath. Go somewhere where people are on the fence about whether or not to go with an iPhone!
 
How many units do people think? If they started beginning of august and produced 50k units a day. that would only be about 2.5MM units. That definitely can't be enough with all those countries launching.
 
The 4S pre-order for HORRIFICALLY bad. Everything better be - as Apple says - snappy. No server hangups. I'm expecting a lot. Let's get it done smoothly. You've had a year to improve things, and this should be a focus.

(halfway kidding, halfway serious)

don't forget about the New iPad pre-order; that was bad too...
Verizon is screwing me and won't allow me to upgrade early.. I have to wait till October 7th. I ordered my iphone 4 the day it was allowed for current verizon customers.. :mad:
Anyone else getting this?
 
I will be using this offer too. Not sure if you read the FAQ section, where it states that the gift card can be applied to buy the phone itself. That is what I plan on doing.

Are you seeing this offer on the BB site? I can't find it. 50 bucks is 50 bucks. I can always use it to buy iTunes gift cards for myself. :)
 
I want to be able to recieve attachments in my emails, modify them and send them to email again. To do this in iOS is a nightmare. The iPhone is great for playing crappy games that loose appeal after 5 minutes.

I agree the old Samsung with Android phones lacked a slick and intuitive feel iOS provides. But this has now changed with Jelly Bean. Seriously, check out the Samsung Note 2, or Galaxy 3. It takes you 5 years into the future.

who is this guy??
 
Ordering from Apple

My wife and I have iPhones on ATT. We want to jump to Verizon.

I see that Apple.com only allows you to order 1 phone at a time. Will I have to order the first phone and check out, then order the second telling them to add it to my just created Verizon account? I assume that I will be given my Verizon account information when I checkout with the first phone?

Also, I am on some sort of corporate ATT account because they are giving me a 15% discount because of where I work. I own the account. I am assuming that I will have no trouble porting my numbers to Verizon. Both my iPhone 4s are eligible....
 
Any details for the UK?

I want to secure one now but the networks have said NOTHING about the launch! EE has a page or two up at T-Mobile and Orange with a mailing list sign up, which I'd be looking to use for 4G and stuff, but if they don't get their act together are the first-week adopters going to have to buy it SIM-Free?

Read the Apple site. You can order the iP5 unlocked with a nano-sim with prepaid mins, texts and data from 3, Voda or O2. It will come at an additional cost. Also, I just rang up my local 3 and they said they had nanosims in stock and I got them to reserve one for me :)

I'm swapping from Giffgaff. Also, 3 bought some spectrum from EE, so 3 will have 4G before everybody else alongside EE. Infact, I heard that the iP5 doesn't carry the right spectrum (O2/Voda). They'll be getting 800Mhz as opposed to EE's 1800Mhz.
 
AT&T still not letting us in on the time

I contacted AT&T via their live chat and here is what transpired.

AT&T sales representatives are happy to assist you with your questions.

AT&T sales representatives will not have access to your personal account. This service is provided to you under AT&Ts Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy.
You are now chatting with Lamar, an AT&T sales representative.

Lamar: Welcome to AT&T online Feature Sales. How may I assist you with your features today?
ME: Hello, Lamar
ME: If I upgrade my iPhone and pre-order the iPhone 5 on the app store on my iPhone, will I be charged at the time of order, or will the charge go on my monthly phone bill?
Lamar: I don't have that information but it should tell you how the charges work.
ME: It?
Lamar: AT&T will offer iPhone 5 beginning Friday, Sept. 21. Customers will be able to pre-order iPhone 5 online beginning Friday, Sept. 14 at www.att.com/iphone. iPhone 5 will be available for a suggested retail price of $199.99 for the 16GB model, $299.99 for the 32GB model, and $399.99 for the 64GB model.
ME: OK, I can pre-order through AT&T?
ME: What time on Friday will that be available?

Lamar: On the 21st you can log on the web to view the iPhone I do not have a time.
ME: <quote>Customers will be able to pre-order iPhone 5 online beginning Friday, Sept. 14 at www.att.com/iphone.</quote> Where can I find the time that this starts?
Lamar: Its not going to tell you the time
Lamar: I am explaining you would log on the web on the 21st to see the offer.
Lamar: You can try at 12am if you like
ME: 12 am what time zone?
Lamar: I don't have that information.
ME: I know I can order on the 21st. I'm trying to figure out when I can pre-order.
Lamar: Feel free to give customer care a call concerning more information on the iPhone at 800-331-0500
ME: I thought you were customer service!
Lamar: You have logged on to feature support
Lamar: While you're online today, what else can I help you with?
ME: I was sent here after I clicked on a link to ask questions about upgrades. I was sent to a billing specialist. He forwarded me to you. Now you say you are feature support.
Lamar: I suggest you log on the web on the 21st to view the iPhone offer
Lamar: At this time there is no time listed to order.
ME: I want to PRE-ORDER.
ME: On the 14th.
Lamar: I understand that
Lamar: Above says 21st
ME: Above it says the 14th.
ME: <quote>Customers will be able to pre-order iPhone 5 online beginning Friday, Sept. 14 at www.att.com/iphone.</quote>

Lamar: Feel free to contact Apple to see if you can order early.
ME: You sent that to me
Lamar: Correction you are correct per my message
Lamar: That means on the 14th you can log on the preorder
Lamar: While you're online today, what else can I help you with?
ME: You could find out what time (locally to my Central Time Zone) that I can log in to pre-order.
Lamar: No I can't
Lamar: If you would like to find the time zone of the web offers feel free to call customer care at 800-331-0500
ME: Hugs and Kisses. Have a great day!
 
Who's getting black and who's getting white? :apple:

Also, I'm hoping by the time tomorrow they'll have a dock for us. I would love to have one.

I went ahead and ordered the dock adapter yesterday at apple.com, but from the getgo it says it won't ship until October. I figure if I come across one on launch day I can buy it retail and cancel the online order or more than likely keep it alive as I don't want to bring the adapter in and out of the car all the time.
 
Galaxy S III or Note II

These are much better than what was shown to us yesterday but you guys have fun! Since I wont go android, guess I'm waiting for 5s or 6... Still have the 4 since they cant seem to please me. Oh, and the Nano? Total waste of metal. Should have been a watch with BT.
 
Really! You buy into Apples marketing? Wake up and let me educate you.

1- A new cable connection? Really why not go USB 3 that is industry standard and would allow easy access to connection cables anywhere? Have Apple also designed this cable to fray and split at the connection point like all the other cables they custom design. Funny how none of my industry standard USB cables do this?

2- A 6 processor. Again Apple inform us how much faster it is. All Apple custom A range processors have been slow and clunky. Im convinced this is yet again more lies and marketing hype. They dumped this need to develope processors in the PC market because they could not keep up with intel and AMD. How long before the iPhone A processors gets dumped? Soon I hope.

3- the screen is 5% longer.... Oooooohhhh wow Apple. Really thinking out the box this time.

4- like the new Map system is going to be better than google maps that has been evolving for 10 years. More marketing hype over Apple taking many steps backward.

5- Apple claim longer battery life. Do I have to dim the screen low enough to help it last through the working day like my iPhone 3, 4 and now 4S? Great soloution. Why not stop useing the phone completely, this might allow the battery to last the day.

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Hmmmm... I'm interested to hear what you thought about the iPhone 4S when it was released.

It looked EXACTLY like the previous iPhone... no screen size increase at all. And no LTE either.

Yet they sold 80 million of them over the last year... and made Apple one of the largest companies in the world.

I have a hunch this next iPhone's sales will be insane too.

New cable? Why is that an issue? You didn't have a problem with the old proprietary cable... why should you with the new proprietary cable?

Maps? Download ANY map app, including Google's. I hear there are a lot of cool apps in Apple's App Store.
 
My wife and I have iPhones on ATT. We want to jump to Verizon.

I see that Apple.com only allows you to order 1 phone at a time. Will I have to order the first phone and check out, then order the second telling them to add it to my just created Verizon account? I assume that I will be given my Verizon account information when I checkout with the first phone?

Also, I am on some sort of corporate ATT account because they are giving me a 15% discount because of where I work. I own the account. I am assuming that I will have no trouble porting my numbers to Verizon. Both my iPhone 4s are eligible....

You can try both ATT and apple websites at the same time
 
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Just as well I have tomorrow of haha! I will be calling Orange UK later to see if I can get a nano SIM, then I'll TRY to pre order an unlocked one tomorrow morning.
I should really wait to see the phone, but as I have an iPhone 4 the only surprise will be the new shape and when I got that it took me about 2 or 3 months to get one!!!
I have a feeling if I don't get an order in quick this time round, I'll have to wait just as long...
 
In case any UK people were wondering...

A) the prices are £529, £599 and £699 for the 16/32/64 GB models respectively, according to the Apple Store app.
B) I assume we won't get to preorder at midnight our time, but it's worth trying. Otherwise 12.01am translates as 8.01am for us!
And C) I went into Orange today and the guy said he doesn't know about nano-sims yet, but that they should get them in the next 7 days.

:cool:
 
don't forget about the New iPad pre-order; that was bad too...
Verizon is screwing me and won't allow me to upgrade early.. I have to wait till October 7th. I ordered my iphone 4 the day it was allowed for current verizon customers.. :mad:
Anyone else getting this?

My wife is in the same boat. Luckily for me, I'm switching from AT&T to Verizon (can't wait!!!) so there's no upgrade worries for me.
 
If I pre order through Apple will it let me ship to a different address other than what my billing address is?
 
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