Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

iPhone 5s accelerometer/gyroscope/compass values incorrect

richard371 said:
I don't think it's the lower quality sensor that's the issue. I think it's the calibration of this new sensor that isn't done or done properly. The reason being mine is -3 on back and side and it does not fluctuate at all. If I compensate for the error when playing games or calibrate the apps that let me then it works as well as the previous iPhones in my opinion. Just let me calibrate the thing to 0 on its back and side and I'll be a happy camper.

If apps like I handy can do this then apple can allow us to do it globally from the API level and issue is resolved.
Click to expand...

I handy level has drifted 0.3 degrees since a last calibrated 3 days ago. maybe my house is moving :) it's an acceptable margin anyway.

----------
rkahl said:
Apple wishes you would just go android.
Click to expand...

why are you even on this thread if u are belittling every other poster?

move on ....
 
tharepairguy said:
The precision comment was in reference to the power button rattle, not the camera lens that also has been known to make a noise. If your going to tout about 'precision' in your ads and commercials, it's usually good to backup that claim...
Click to expand...

I don't think Apple ever claimed that the iPhone 5s or any other phone was a "precision" level or compass. They talk about the precision design of the case and the advanced feature set.
 
KPOM said:
Apple usually doesn't admit there is a problem until after they've fixed it. I'm guessing this is a firmware issue given the interaction between the new M7 and the different sensor used in the 5s.

If your wife hadn't read the Forbes article, would she have any any idea that the 5s was "defective"? If not, it seems like a waste of effort. Plus, the HTC One is just now getting 4.3 when 4.4 is coming out later this month. 68% of iOS devices are running iOS 7, which came out less than three weeks ago. Unless you are running a Nexus device, getting updates for Android is hit or miss.
Click to expand...

My wife is a corporate defense attorney, and deals with product liability on a daily basis. The corporation she works for owns a very large number of diverse subsidies. I saw this thread, checked her phone and reported my findings. She wasn't terribly concerned, even as the thread grew, and this issue received attention from CNet, etc. It was precisely when Forbes ran the article that my wife declared, "Defective is defective, and I paid too much to keep a defective product."

I've seen HTC ONE reviews on youtube, and most of them had a phone with 4.1.2 installed. That might have bothered me, but 4.2.2 seems just fine to us. Verizon sent out their own update last week, and are supposed to get 4.3 sometime soon. I wasn't thrilled with iOS 7, but there are some features I like. We don't need the latest version of Android any more than we needed iOS 7. As I stated earlier, my wife is thrilled with her new phone, and had it in her hands all weekend. She didn't do that with the 5s, but that's subjective. The 5s groups pictures according to event, and so does the HTC. The HTC also has a slideshow function that automatically adds music, and can be sent to FB as a slideshow with music just by touching an icon. I'm not knocking the 5s, but this is a very cool feature. That could be one of the reasons we're not anxiously awaiting the next OS update/upgrade. We bought HTC's Media Link HD, and that allows us to mirror the phones' content onto our TV. We can stream a movie, and still use the phone's screen to read emails, make calls, etc. We can use iTunes on our rMBP to stream movies and still use the computer's screen, but that's not possible yet with the iphone or ipad. We are quite happy with our decision. ;)

P.S. I don't want my comments to be misconstrued as an Android vs iOS thing. I hated Android after buying my first tablet a year ago, and my wife and I found Apple's tablet OS much better. It seems that at least HTC has listened to the criticism regarding Android being too packed for of silly functions, and there's very little to see on the ONE's screen compared to a Samsung split screen three ring circus show. In fact, the ONE looks quite tidy even compared to iOS 7. Apple has added some of the features found on Android that its customers asked for (better notifications), but they have not gone overboard like the S4. Please be happy with whichever phone you've chosen, and as I stated a few posts back, I really hope Apple provides a solution for this issue. Both they and they're customers will benefit from a quick and effective fix. My wife and I are still Apple customers, and hope to see a slimmer iPad 5. We like the Mini the way it is now, but Retina might be nice.
 
Last edited:
FrankB1191 said:
My wife is a corporate defense attorney, and deals with product liability on a daily basis. The corporation she works for owns a very large number of diverse subsidies. I saw this thread, checked her phone and reported my findings. She wasn't terribly concerned, even as the thread grew, and this issue received attention from CNet, etc. It was precisely when Forbes ran the article that my wife declared, "Defective is defective, and I paid too much to keep a defective product."

I've seen HTC ONE reviews on youtube, and most of them had a phone with 4.1.2 installed. That might have bothered me, but 4.2.2 seems just fine to us. Verizon sent out their own update last week, and are supposed to get 4.3 sometime soon. I wasn't thrilled with iOS 7, but there are some features I like. We don't need the latest version of Android any more than we needed iOS 7. As I stated earlier, my wife is thrilled with her new phone, and had it in her hands all weekend. She didn't do that with the 5s, but that's subjective. The 5s groups pictures according to event, and so does the HTC. The HTC also has a slideshow function that automatically adds music, and can be sent to FB as a slideshow with music just by touching an icon. I'm not knocking the 5s, but this is a very cool feature. That could be one of the reasons we're not anxiously awaiting the next OS update/upgrade. We bought HTC's Media Link HD, and that allows us to mirror the phones' content onto our TV. We can stream a movie, and still use the phone's screen to read emails, make calls, etc. We can use iTunes on our rMBP to stream movies and still use the computer's screen, but that's not possible yet with the iphone or ipad. We are quite happy with our decision. ;)
Click to expand...

OT, but please don't ever share photos in the form of a slideshow. Let your viewer spend as much or as little time on each shot as they think they deserve. And if your slideshow lasts as long as a song then it's too long. Just my opinion and maybe your friends think differently but here's a cartoon about the issue too; http://xkcd.com/1264/

I'll have a look at the HTC ONE since I don't want a phone that generates fake data and in a year's time don't want to hear about the "new high resolution sensors" featured in the iPhone 6 keynote.
 
FrankB1191 said:
My wife is a corporate defense attorney, and deals with product liability on a daily basis. The corporation she works for owns a very large number of diverse subsidies. I saw this thread, checked her phone and reported my findings. She wasn't terribly concerned, even as the thread grew, and this issue received attention from CNet, etc. It was precisely when Forbes ran the article that my wife declared, "Defective is defective, and I paid too much to keep a defective product."

I've seen HTC ONE reviews on youtube, and most of them had a phone with 4.1.2 installed. That might have bothered me, but 4.2.2 seems just fine to us. Verizon sent out their own update last week, and are supposed to get 4.3 sometime soon. I wasn't thrilled with iOS 7, but there are some features I like. We don't need the latest version of Android any more than we needed iOS 7. As I stated earlier, my wife is thrilled with her new phone, and had it in her hands all weekend. She didn't do that with the 5s, but that's subjective. The 5s groups pictures according to event, and so does the HTC. The HTC also has a slideshow function that automatically adds music, and can be sent to FB as a slideshow with music just by touching an icon. I'm not knocking the 5s, but this is a very cool feature. That could be one of the reasons we're not anxiously awaiting the next OS update/upgrade. We bought HTC's Media Link HD, and that allows us to mirror the phones' content onto our TV. We can stream a movie, and still use the phone's screen to read emails, make calls, etc. We can use iTunes on our rMBP to stream movies and still use the computer's screen, but that's not possible yet with the iphone or ipad. We are quite happy with our decision. ;)
Click to expand...

HTC one is a brilliant phone but the reason I sold it for an iPhone 5s was camera was just really bad, anroid ecosystem is not as good as Apples and games STUTTERED! the reason for that I found was they capped the processor power at a certain temp due to the aluminum it would get really hot with games like real racing etc... so you have the latest greatest android in your hand but games were stuttering... I flashed the google edition rom on it but in the end I ebayed it.. Amazing phone and screen if you dont want to play games on it or arent too fussed with apples ecosystem ie more apps

On another note my phone is week 39 build (october) and my sensors are fine... dont know how to test them throughly though
 
My week 39 5s is reading the same as my 4S (ignore the beat up desk). I am assuming my desk is off level because they both read zero elsewhere.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0961.JPG
    IMG_0961.JPG
    78.8 KB · Views: 91
KPOM said:
I don't think Apple ever claimed that the iPhone 5s or any other phone was a "precision" level or compass. They talk about the precision design of the case and the advanced feature set.
Click to expand...

they were all over the separate sensor for increased accuracy.
 
Bazooka-joe said:
Is there a possibility that week 39 builds are error free?
Click to expand...

No, my 5s is a week 39 and it's not right. Lying on a flat table it's 2/3 degrees off and on its side it's even worse (compared to my old iPhone 5). I've sold the 5 now so I can't check again but the 5s definitely isn't right. I was planning on taking it back this week but I'm not sure if it's worth it. I'm hoping they'll give me a replacement regardless of whether it's this week or next week. It'd just be nice to hear from some more people who have the latest built ones.
 
I just received my silver 5s today.

Week 39 iPhone 5s reads exactly the same as iPhone 4s

Both are accurate when compared to a standard bubble level.
 
Bazooka-joe said:
Some of the guys in the UK thread are reporting that their week 39 builds are sensor error free
Click to expand...

My week 39 build (factory C3, 64GB Space Grey, UK model, arrived 6 days ago) is 0 degrees on the long edge, but 1 degree on the short edge and -1 degree when flat. So it looks to be better than the earlier ones, but still not correct.

My 4S is 0 on both sides and when flat.
 
photodesign said:
Enter the serial number in an app like CoconutID or on a website: http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html/
Click to expand...

Thank you for the info, I just figure out mine is week 37 :(

Nice Name: iPhone 5s
Family name:
Model Number: ME296
Group1: iPhone
Group2:
Generation:
CPU speed: 1.3GHz
Screen size: 4 inch
Screen resolution: 1136x640 pixels
Colour: Space Gray
Production year: 2013
Production week: 37 (September)
Model introduced: 2013
Capacity: 16GB
Memory - flavour: xx
Factory: C3 (China)
 
syphern said:
On another note my phone is week 39 build (october) and my sensors are fine... dont know how to test them throughly though
Click to expand...

That’s the problem with these forums. You start looking for trouble even though you found nothing wrong. I’m about -2 degrees off when compared to my wife’s iphone 5 but I never thought of using my iPhone as a level or a compass. And I have no problems with playing real racing. I do agree that there is a problem but the comments are getting out of hand.

The way I see it there are 4 possibilities for current 5s owners:
1. It’s a software issue and a patch will fix the problem.
2. It’s a hardware issue and Apple will swap out the device.
3. Apple will do nothing and will get sued.
4. Return the device within your return period.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back