If they increase the GPU capabilities, they will almost certainly increase CPU capabilities. A lot. Just like they have for almost every iPhone revision.
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If they increase the GPU capabilities, they will almost certainly increase CPU capabilities. A lot. Just like they have for almost every iPhone revision.
4 was a relatively minor spec bump in processing power and it feels slow against 4S. Even though 4S is plenty fast for now, I can now see some areas where it shows its age against 5. Doubling the speed of the machine isn't exactly minor as with cameras. In hindsights both 3GS and 4S proved themselves to be worthy upgrades.
So it´s much more likely that you´re going to cut off your finger then forgetting your PIN?But you can cut off your thumb
Oh, wait...
The HTC One looks *hot*. That is a sexy phone, right there. I used to think that about the iPhone, but too much time has passed with same-y looks and the ridiculous pages of icons. Don't get me wrong, I love icons as much as the next gal, but surely they could put them ALL in someplace and give us some cute little widgets/gadgets to play with. Android is looking smoking hot lately.
I'm also really excited to see what they do with the S4; but if the rumors are true, (MASSIVE screen) I'll be taking a good long look at the HTC One. It's just the right size.
At my age I don't need something "sexy". I need something practical and reliable.
If this is real then i might say hello to the Nokia Lumina
Which model is that?
Always thought it was 'Lumia'
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Have to admit, fell in love with the looks of the 5 when they showed it off but it's not wearing well over time - I've had it replaced once already and the buttons on the side are loose and becoming unresponsive on this phone.
If iOS 7 doesn't re write this stale mobile platform then there are so many other options on the horizon this year.
Might be time to give Apple a miss for a year or two.
What do you mean by practical and reliable? What is it that makes the competition not practical or reliable? I am genuinely curious as I will probably switch.
Being that I can no longer upgrade every year like I used to (hence why I'm still on iPhone 4S), what Apple does with the iPhone 5S/iOS 7 is a big deal to me since I'll be locked into that platform for another 2 years. Default apps is all I ask for. Can't wait to see what the S4 brings. I'm already gunning for the HTC One.
This^^^
Playing around with the hardware right now is for kids, although I wouldn't mind a larger screen but more importantly lets get serious with this ios7...
iPhone/iPhone 3G:
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- CPU: ARM 1176JZ at 412 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR MBX at 103 MHz
- 128 MB DRAM
- Rear 2.0 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 3GS:
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- CPU: ARM Cortex - A8 at 600 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR SGX535 at 150 MHz
- 256 MB DRAM
- Rear 3.0 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 4:
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- CPU: ARM A4 at 800 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR SGX535 at 200 MHz
- 512 MB DRAM
- Rear 5.0 Megapixel Camera / Front 0.3 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 4S:
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- CPU: ARM A5 (dual Core) at 800 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR SGX543MP2
- 512 MB DRAM
- Rear 8.0 Megapixel Camera / Front 0.3 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 5:
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- CPU: ARM A6 (dual Core) at 1300 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR SGX543MP3
- 1 GB DRAM
- Rear 8.0 Megapixel Camera / Front 1.2 Megapixel Camera
From the previous iterations, I would conclude that the 'S' series isn't a minor bump in internal specs, but a complete new iPhone in a tested exterior.
Now that the telephone contacts containing subsidized iPhones are over a two years period, half of the customers will go from 3G to 4 to 5 and the other half will go from 3GS to 4S to 5S.
So a lot of us skip a generation, meaning that our latest iPhone is not a minor improvement compaired to our old one AND Apple gives both groups the chance to own the same exterior design without forcing us to break the contract cycle...isn't that a nice gesture of Apple Inc
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- CPU: ARM 1176JZ at 412 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR MBX at 103 MHz
- 128 MB DRAM
- Rear 2.0 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 3GS:
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- CPU: ARM Cortex - A8 at 600 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR SGX535 at 150 MHz
- 256 MB DRAM
- Rear 3.0 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 4:
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- CPU: ARM A4 at 800 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR SGX535 at 200 MHz
- 512 MB DRAM
- Rear 5.0 Megapixel Camera / Front 0.3 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 4S:
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- CPU: ARM A5 (dual Core) at 800 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR SGX543MP2
- 512 MB DRAM
- Rear 8.0 Megapixel Camera / Front 0.3 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 5:
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- CPU: ARM A6 (dual Core) at 1300 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR SGX543MP3
- 1 GB DRAM
- Rear 8.0 Megapixel Camera / Front 1.2 Megapixel Camera
From the previous iterations, I would conclude that the 'S' series isn't a minor bump in internal specs, but a complete new iPhone in a tested exterior.
Now that the telephone contacts containing subsidized iPhones are over a two years period, half of the customers will go from 3G to 4 to 5 and the other half will go from 3GS to 4S to 5S.
So a lot of us skip a generation, meaning that our latest iPhone is not a minor improvement compaired to our old one AND Apple gives both groups the chance to own the same exterior design without forcing us to break the contract cycle...isn't that a nice gesture of Apple Inc
My friend's GSIII must be recharged in the middle of the day, often more than once and he carries a spare battery. He loves the phone but it is not reliable in that he often loses power. It is sad to watch. No idea how well this thing is going to work next year or the year after that.
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iPhone/iPhone 3G:
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- CPU: ARM 1176JZ at 412 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR MBX at 103 MHz
- 128 MB DRAM
- Rear 2.0 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 3GS:
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- CPU: ARM Cortex - A8 at 600 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR SGX535 at 150 MHz
- 256 MB DRAM
- Rear 3.0 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 4:
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- CPU: ARM A4 at 800 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR SGX535 at 200 MHz
- 512 MB DRAM
- Rear 5.0 Megapixel Camera / Front 0.3 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 4S:
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- CPU: ARM A5 (dual Core) at 800 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR SGX543MP2
- 512 MB DRAM
- Rear 8.0 Megapixel Camera / Front 0.3 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 5:
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- CPU: ARM A6 (dual Core) at 1300 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR SGX543MP3
- 1 GB DRAM
- Rear 8.0 Megapixel Camera / Front 1.2 Megapixel Camera
From the previous iterations, I would conclude that the 'S' series isn't a minor bump in internal specs, but a complete new iPhone in a tested exterior.
Now that the telephone contacts containing subsidized iPhones are over a two years period, half of the customers will go from 3G to 4 to 5 and the other half will go from 3GS to 4S to 5S.
So a lot of us skip a generation, meaning that our latest iPhone is not a minor improvement compaired to our old one AND Apple gives both groups the chance to own the same exterior design without forcing us to break the contract cycle...isn't that a nice gesture of Apple Inc
Nice stuff. But don't you mean pretty much everyone skips a generation. Some skip two. But I really like your point that no matter what cycle you are on, you get a shot at each design. Good point and it means no chance of a case change for iPhone 5S. Not that I thought there would be one.
A friend of mine is holding onto his 4 right now because he wants to switch to the S cycle. He feels that is the proven cycle, and he doesn't mind waiting for the design.
Eventually, the majority will wake up. Some of us just have our alarm clocks set a little earlier.
I am sure it will also have the A6x processor and updated GPU. Those wishing for iOS 7 will be disappointed. 6 just released in Sept, 7 wont be out until the iPhone 6 in the fall.
Even better. Most users aren't coders either. Somebody needs to be shepherding the big picture.
Yes, that's what I mean, but English isn't my mother language (first Dutch, than French and than English), so I take the long way in explinating things
I'll probably will buy the 5S around the end of the year and pay the full price (+/- around 749 for the 32GB) since "coupled-sales" (subsidized) are more expensive over a two year period (829 instead of 749).
That's mostly true, but you can't just take a random pattern and apply it to the future. There is not enough here to discern a pattern because they already broke it with the iPhone 5.iPhone/iPhone 3G:
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- CPU: ARM 1176JZ at 412 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR MBX at 103 MHz
- 128 MB DRAM
- Rear 2.0 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 3GS:
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- CPU: ARM Cortex - A8 at 600 MHz
- GPU: PowerVR SGX535 at 150 MHz
- 256 MB DRAM
- Rear 3.0 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 4:
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- CPU: ARM A4 at 800 MHz (Cortex A8 renamed A4, reused prior architecture for CPU and GPU)
- GPU: PowerVR SGX535 at 200 MHz
- 512 MB DRAM
- Rear 5.0 Megapixel Camera / Front 0.3 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 4S:
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- CPU: ARM A5 (dual Core) at 800 MHz (Cortex A9, new micro architecture) (This is monumental, now only is it a new microarchitecture, but it introduced multi threading... magnitudes in a jump.)
- GPU: PowerVR SGX543MP2
- 512 MB DRAM
- Rear 8.0 Megapixel Camera / Front 0.3 Megapixel Camera
iPhone 5:
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- CPU: ARM A6 (dual Core) at 1300 MHz (new architecture, Swift core somewhat akin to CortexA15)
- GPU: PowerVR SGX543MP3
- 1 GB DRAM
- Rear 8.0 Megapixel Camera / Front 1.2 Megapixel Camera
From the previous iterations, I would conclude that the 'S' series isn't a minor bump in internal specs, but a complete new iPhone in a tested exterior.
Now that the telephone contacts containing subsidized iPhones are over a two years period, half of the customers will go from 3G to 4 to 5 and the other half will go from 3GS to 4S to 5S.
So a lot of us skip a generation, meaning that our latest iPhone is not a minor improvement compaired to our old one AND Apple gives both groups the chance to own the same exterior design without forcing us to break the contract cycle...isn't that a nice gesture of Apple Inc
3G: new outside, old inside
3GS: old outside, new inside
4: new outside, but old inside.
4S: old outside, but all new inside.
5 is new all around.
Noone knows what will happen next, 2 cycles is not a pattern that can be gambled on. The 4S and 5 have so much processing power to spare it's oozing out everywhere. There is little to no benefit increasing that right now. It's too early for Apple to change the external design again, and all signs point to continuing it.
It's anyone's flip of the coin what they do next.
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An X quad core GPU is a waste at the iPhone 5 resolution. There is no benefit for the battery life and realestate hit. Not happening.
Maybe a next gen, MP2 Rogue GPU.
So if they won't change the external (and I think that has to be taken as a given) and there is no value to improving the processor speed, where will they improve the phone? I know they would like to make the camera better. And there is the possibility to improve there (though I think they stay at 8 MB as the sweet spot in detail and low light performance). And there is always value in putting in a larger battery. I doubt there is room to add something like NFC.
Perhaps they can put in a more energy efficient processor that doesn't necessarily run any faster.
The one thing I hope the 5S has is faster synching over USB-- in other words something that takes advantage of USB 3.0 speed. But the limitation right now is the speed of the flash memory on the device.
Backing up over WiFi is sloooooow, I still like plugging my phone into my mac mini for backing up or transferring lots of images... the problem is that USB is barely any faster.
The "lightning" connector should be capable of so much more!