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i guess from 3g to 3gs was good "S" upgrade, since 3g was really slow.
but the 4 to 4s, and now 5 to 5s, i think the iteration is good enough to stand on its own and doesn't need a minor spec bump

apple is thinking these people are buying the hype in "S" thing, might as well do it with iphone 4,5,6... cash in some more $$$.
 
You could also ask: What good is mobile phone if your hand gets chopped off? That wouldn't stop mobile phone companies making mobile phones though.
He has a point, though.

A fingerprint device alone does only solve one thing and that is to make it easier and faster to access something secured compared to a secure password (at least 8 characters, upper case, lower case, special characters, etc.) and that´s what Apple wants. It´s more convenient.

If Apple wants to go nuts on security, then a fingerprint sensor alone is not the perfect solution. They need more than that.

Intel and McAfee, which was bought by Intel some months ago, are developing security solutions which will make it able to access (like a smartcard or a token, which basically are the same thing) secured areas like websites with a fingerprint which is stored in your CPU (there´s a serial identifier), so no one else can forge it. This would make tokens obsolete, at least in the case when you´re using only the same device for everything. But it´s more flexible than that.

If Apple integrates a good fingerprint scanner then it would also have a lot of possible applications. It would be a new useless feature that really adds something of worth to the iPhone. They could use a highly encrypted database to e.x. store website access combined with your scanned fingerprint. You would also be able to transfer that encrypted fingerprint info through iCloud, which then acts as an universal fingerprint for all your devices that have a fingerprint scanner in the future.
 
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Don't care, also I don't believe it has started production as it seems to early, then again I don't think anyone can predict Apple's release schedule anymore..

Anyway, all I want is that lovely refreshed new look iOS everyone else wants, I'm sure my current iPhone 5 will be more then capable of running it, so come on Apple, please launch it?
 
Trololololo

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I never liked the "S" thing. "S" for what, "special"? "Sport"? Does it even stand for anything, or is it like putting "X" on something?

When they first introduced iPhone 3S, the "S" thing stud for Speed. And then they just fallowed the same routine, even though each new iPhone was speedier then the previous. Now the "S" thing could mean nothing at all. Just a name.
 
I personally don't like the iPhone 5's taller, but not wider look. If there's no NFC this time around, I'll pass. NFC can be used for more than just transactions. Fingerprint reader is not a feature to me. Then only thing saving me sticking with Apple is what they choose to do with iOS 7.

If manufacturing really has begun, expect an announcement to an event soon from Apple. They are going to need to to either counter Samsung S4 hype or snub them before March 14.
 
He has a point, though.

A fingerprint device alone does only solve one thing and that is to make it easier and faster to access something secured compared to a secure password (at least 8 characters, upper case, lower case, special characters, etc.) and that´s what Apple wants. It´s more convenient.

If Apple wants to go nuts on security, then a fingerprint sensor alone is not the perfect solution. They need more than that.

Intel and McAfee, which was bought by Intel some months ago, are developing security solutions which will make it able to access (like a smartcard or a token, which basically are the same thing) secured areas like websites with a fingerprint which is stored in your CPU (there´s a serial identifier), so no one else can forge it. This would make tokens obsolete, at least in the case when you´re using only the same device for everything. But it´s more flexible than that.

If Apple integrates a good fingerprint scanner then it would also have a lot of possible applications. It would be a new useless feature that really adds something of worth to the iPhone. They could use a highly encrypted database to store website access with your scanned fingerprint. You would also be able to transfer that encrypted fingerprint info through iCloud, which then acts as an universal fingerprint for all your devices that have a fingerprint scanner in the future.

I get you. But being useful or not useful has not much to do with some ppl loosing their thumb I would say. There would be away around it or an option to disable fingerprint by entering some long password. I still think that possibilities could be wide with fingerprint scanner.
 
I personally don't like the iPhone 5's taller, but not wider look. If there's no NFC this time around, I'll pass. NFC can be used for more than just transactions. Fingerprint reader is not a feature to me. Then only thing saving me sticking with Apple is what they choose to do with iOS 7.

If manufacturing really has begun, expect an announcement to an event soon from Apple. They are going to need to to either counter Samsung S4 hype or snub them before March 14.
June/July seems a bit odd indeed. Past keynotes were in March, so March also seems likely, but according to the people in the know, March is too soon.

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I get you. But being useful or not useful has not much to do with some ppl loosing their thumb I would say. There would be away around it or an option to disable fingerprint by entering some long password. I still think that possibilities could be wide with fingerprint scanner.
Yes, of course. They could also add two-way authentication with fingerprint and a password together or just a password like it is now.

Just wanted to point out that if you´re going totally paranoid, then that thumb comment would be relevant, otherwise we can savely ignore it. It´s a consumer device after all.
 
Is it actually faster than typing a code?
Even if you´re the type that only has a 1-digit password then it´s both faster and more convenient. You basically only do an "unlock swipe" with your finger instead of having to do both. That would be optimal case though, we don´t know how Apple will implement it.
 
Apple have lost me, I've never bought an Android but I will be switching for my next phone. The new HTC One demolishes what Apple has come up with in recent times, and I highly doubt the next iPhone will come anywhere close.

To compete they will need to start over.. scrap the current design and provide a larger screen, as well as completely redesign the OS and catch up with the gestures etc. They have fallen too far behind, I didn't even know what I was missing until recently.
 
I'm glad the (rumored) 5s is an "S." I see "S" as Skip.

I assume that me and the wife are like most(?) others, and wait for our upgrades from AT&T. We just got our contracts synced so-to-speak, so it'll be solid upgrades only for us.

Which is also why I like the Apples release schedule. the "S" phones give me a buffer to enjoy my phone, without being "behind in the times."
 
Wishlist:

-- Back to 3.5 inch screen
-- LTE-Advanced
-- A6X Processor
-- Retina Display
-- 13+ MP camera.

List makes no sense????
The screen will be same as iPhone 5 and obviously is already retina (that's been the plan for the "S" to it need accessories)

LTE upgrade is possible depending on what chips Apple uses... Apple built Iphone5 with a combine GSM/CMDA/LTE Chipset... So it depends if all that fits.

A6x proves you know less than nothing as the "x" is for the iPad Retina version GPU... We might get A7, or probably A6-rev 2 made "not at Samsung".

The upgraded camera would be nice, but Appke would probably go with quality over Megapixles... They do have some catching up, but not with a cheap 13mpx sensor they won't.

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I'm glad the (rumored) 5s is an "S." I see "S" as Skip.

I assume that me and the wife are like most(?) others, and wait for our upgrades from AT&T. We just got our contracts synced so-to-speak, so it'll be solid upgrades only for us.

Which is also why I like the Apples release schedule. the "S" phones give me a buffer to enjoy my phone, without being "behind in the times."

Actually, you should skip the non S versions. If you WAIT, then you have all the accessories ready when you buy the phone. And usually those pesky issues like yellow screens or antennas are straightened out for round two.
 
I'm ready for a bigger screen. And not just a tad taller, like the 5. The 5s won't have a bigger screen, so I'm either waiting for the 6 or jumping to Android for a bit. I'm also really over the crazy pages full of icons and folders. There HAS to be a better way for file management than this. I'm actually fairly shocked that we are going on to the 7th generation of iPhone and STILL have just pages of icons and (WHOOO!) folders. Folders were the BIG innovation! Come ON, Apple.

I just want to see something DIFFERENT. I haven't been excited about an iPhone in nearly 2 years now... but there are a couple of Androids that have me bouncing in anticipation.

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Apple have lost me, I've never bought an Android but I will be switching for my next phone. The new HTC One demolishes what Apple has come up with in recent times, and I highly doubt the next iPhone will come anywhere close.

To compete they will need to start over.. scrap the current design and provide a larger screen, as well as completely redesign the OS and catch up with the gestures etc. They have fallen too far behind, I didn't even know what I was missing until recently.

THIS^^^ The HTC One looks *hot*. That is a sexy phone, right there. I used to think that about the iPhone, but too much time has passed with same-y looks and the ridiculous pages of icons. Don't get me wrong, I love icons as much as the next gal, but surely they could put them ALL in someplace and give us some cute little widgets/gadgets to play with. Android is looking smoking hot lately.

I'm also really excited to see what they do with the S4; but if the rumors are true, (MASSIVE screen) I'll be taking a good long look at the HTC One. It's just the right size. ;)
 
So Apple is now supposed to completely redesign their phones from the ground up.... every 6 months?

They're not supposed to release the same phone with an added compass every six months.

If they do it better be something much better.
 
So a finger print scanner, and improved flash? I really hope Apple would stop the "S" versions due to the Android devices (mainly Samsung) doing really well.
I just hope to god that iOS 7 is worth it, because iOS 6 was an epic fail and felt more like iOS 5.3. Here's pulling for Jony Ive!

Keeping my 4S and waiting for the 6.

Actually, Apple started the "S" versions before samsung.The Galaxy S came out in 2011, iphone 3gS came out in 2009. Samsung steals again!
 
Lately I've noticed a change at the Apple store near me. Fewer people looking at products to buy, more waiting for service at the Genius Bar.

iPhones seem out of fashion now. It's cool to have a big screen phone like the Samsung Galaxy S3, soon S4. The aspect ratio of the iPhone 5 is ugly. Apple should return to the aspect ratio of the iPhone4/4S, and also launch a Galaxy S3-sized phone with (and this is very important) a huge update to iOS, as big as going from MacOS 9 to MacOS X was.

Furthermore, Apple should hire Eric Schmidt as CEO (he's available, and he knows Google from the inside out) and let Tim Cook go back to what he does best, supply chain management.
 
I'm also really over the crazy pages full of icons and folders. There HAS to be a better way for file management than this.

Sure is :p

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